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Post by rubl on Aug 6, 2022 11:57:39 GMT 7
With the Tpries a mixed lot from not too far left to way off right who of the remaining two candidates is the more likely to let the Tories lose the next election?
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Post by AyG on Aug 6, 2022 18:13:29 GMT 7
It may not be a matter of which of the candidates is the most bumbling, incompetent, totally out of touch that matters. After all, look at how Boris won, despite throughout his whole career being bumbling, incompetent, and totally out of touch. His impact as Mayor of London was a disaster and made it absolutely clear he was totally unfit for a role in politics. The Tory party will vote for any nincompoop whatsoever, even if he/she had barely a functioning cell in his/her addled brain, if he/she's got the right background. (Going to Eton, have a massive feeling of self-entitlement, and/or being a multimillionaire helps a lot.)
In my opinion, the key factor in whether the Tories win/lose the next election is not their candidate, but whether Starmer gets fire in his belly and starts to fight for the workers of the country. At the moment, he hasn't.
Footnote: I originally wrote "deserving workers" which shows how far the Tory invective has poisoned minds. The Tories have created a narrative that the working class are a bunch of lazy, feckless, worthless individuals, a bunch of scroungers, who deserve their dire status in society, totally ignoring Thatcher's concerted attempts to destroy British industries such as coal and steel (industries that once gave decent paying jobs to the working class) and to undermine the unions that fought for the rights of working people.
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Post by rubl on Aug 6, 2022 19:08:40 GMT 7
Being from the Netherlands I'm mostly surprised that the Tory party, or at least it's voters, are so diverse. In the Netherlands such group would be split over five or more parties making parties (slightly) more homogeneous. Of course, you also have a lot more talking before there are agreements but maybe talking between parties is a bit more 'open' and democratic than internal party hanky-panky.
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Post by smokie36 on Aug 9, 2022 2:01:20 GMT 7
AyG got it spot on
#Starmerout
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Post by rott on Aug 9, 2022 8:48:22 GMT 7
And Krankie & Co. in.?
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Post by smokie36 on Aug 9, 2022 20:14:34 GMT 7
An independence vote for Scotland to leave the union would trigger a General Election in Scotland. Its by no means certain the SNP would win in a completely new political arena. |
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Post by rott on Aug 10, 2022 12:50:40 GMT 7
Pity (to some) there won't be an indy vote.
But Boris and Trump have proved that no matter how bumbling an incompetent you are, how many lies you tell, things just go on without you, around you and above you. Talk as much sh ite as you like, no-one really cares or bothers. Interested in who gets the job.? Not me.
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Post by smokie36 on Aug 10, 2022 21:59:56 GMT 7
Pity (to some) there won't be an indy vote. But Boris and Trump have proved that no matter how bumbling an incompetent you are, how many lies you tell, things just go on without you, around you and above you. Talk as much sh ite as you like, no-one really cares or bothers. Interested in who gets the job.? Not me. The vote is coming whether Westminster likes it or not. We will have our own vote if they don't sanction it. |
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Post by rott on Aug 11, 2022 12:14:25 GMT 7
No point turning this into a Punch and Judy show.
Anyway I should care, I've just got a "very popular" badge on another forum.
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Post by chiangmai on Aug 11, 2022 12:56:48 GMT 7
Let me guess who awarded you said badge, not the duck perchance?
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Post by rubl on Aug 11, 2022 13:28:50 GMT 7
No point turning this into a Punch and Judy show. Anyway I should care, I've just got a "very popular" badge on another forum. That does it! I'll start a petition to get you banned from the BM for at least a few minutes. Maybe taking your cocoa (or ovaltine) away for a day might be a tougher punishment.  |
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Post by rott on Aug 11, 2022 17:31:15 GMT 7
No point turning this into a Punch and Judy show. Anyway I should care, I've just got a "very popular" badge on another forum. That does it! I'll start a petition to get you banned from the BM for at least a few minutes. Maybe taking your cocoa (or ovaltine) away for a day might be a tougher punishment. Stopping the cocoa would be cruel indeed. OK I'll come clean and confess, I haven't got a clue who the duck or the BM are. The ignominy. Now I am making a late start for my daily town inspection and there have been comments of p4p ladies in a certain quarter. I must away. Well who is the duck anyway.? |
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Post by rubl on Aug 11, 2022 18:08:44 GMT 7
That does it! I'll start a petition to get you banned from the BM for at least a few minutes. Maybe taking your cocoa (or ovaltine) away for a day might be a tougher punishment. Stopping the cocoa would be cruel indeed. OK I'll come clean and confess, I haven't got a clue who the duck or the BM are. The ignominy. Now I am making a late start for my daily town inspection and there have been comments of p4p ladies in a certain quarter. I must away. It's appalling, it truly is! BM = Big Mango Taking your cocoa away for a day would not suffice as punishment. Better to have the Rain Gods pour down on you  |
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Post by smokie36 on Aug 11, 2022 18:33:20 GMT 7
Stopping the cocoa would be cruel indeed. OK I'll come clean and confess, I haven't got a clue who the duck or the BM are. The ignominy. Now I am making a late start for my daily town inspection and there have been comments of p4p ladies in a certain quarter. I must away. It's appalling, it truly is! BM = Big Mango Taking your cocoa away for a day would not suffice as punishment. Better to have the Rain Gods pour down on you Send him up the mountains in CR and let him freeze his sorry azz off. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Aug 11, 2022 21:01:44 GMT 7
Pity (to some) there won't be an indy vote. But Boris and Trump have proved that no matter how bumbling an incompetent you are, how many lies you tell, things just go on without you, around you and above you. Talk as much sh ite as you like, no-one really cares or bothers. Interested in who gets the job.? Not me. The vote is coming whether Westminster likes it or not. We will have our own vote if they don't sanction it. Bring it on, cant come fast enough for me, either shit or get off the pot. Willing to pay big money for a front row seat when that charlatan gets her smug smirk wiped form her dial. What are we going for next ronnie, best of 5 best of seven, ffs they will still be at it in years to come, best of 1314, best of 1745. |
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