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Post by sl on Dec 31, 2016 6:27:38 GMT 7
I’ll post a picture of the Visa stamp next spring. If I can extend my Thai insurance policy another few months it shouldn’t be a problem to acquire. Right now my Thai insurance policy runs from the first of the year to the end of the year. Just renewed it. It’ll be nice not having to get the paper work in [Medical certificate (3 weeks to get), no criminal record from state (3 to 4 weeks to get), etc.] every damn year and worrying about my passport being in someone else hands (US postal service and Thai Embassy) or being sent back to me (when I might have another trip planned out of the country) in a timely manner. Only one problem,........ thaiembdc.org/consular-services/non-immigrant-visas/non-immigrant-category-o/I was curious, so I took a look at what might be going on and found this,..... COMMENT UPDATE on 15 December 2017: The new retirement visa is an initiative between the Ministries of Public Health & Tourism. It has been passed by the Cabinet & is now with the Ministry of Interior. There are no confirmed details yet about what it will include. It will take at least three more months to finish. The above information was sent to me by the Ministry of Tourism and Sports. Some details may change. I will update this page if I hear of any changes.www.richardbarrow.com/2016/12/long-stay-thai-visa-for-senior-tourists-to-be-extended-to-10-years/I don’t know how trustworthy/accurate the site above is, but if true (3 months until it is in place) I might have to wait till 2018 to apply. My plan is to request the next Thai Visa when the Cherry Blossoms are blooming in Washington DC (tentative schedule between mid-March and mid-April depending on the winter) and it might be cutting it close if they don’t get their ducks in a row.
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Post by sl on Jul 17, 2017 5:18:33 GMT 7
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Post by Soutpeel on Jul 17, 2017 9:56:58 GMT 7
The great unwashed from the UK will be howling over this....UK is not on the list ... "Eligible for these visas are nationals of Australia, Canada, Denmark, Germany, Finland, France, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Norway, Switzerland, Sweden and the United States of America" Given the T&Cs connected to this visa, a TE visa looks very attractive....from what i understand this not a 10 year visa either, its multiples of 5, and at year 5 you need the THB 3.0 mil back in the bank again and reapply fresh, so in effect you locking money up all the time...
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Post by Soutpeel on Jul 17, 2017 10:01:14 GMT 7
I’ll post a picture of the Visa stamp next spring. If I can extend my Thai insurance policy another few months it shouldn’t be a problem to acquire. Right now my Thai insurance policy runs from the first of the year to the end of the year. Just renewed it. It’ll be nice not having to get the paper work in [Medical certificate (3 weeks to get), no criminal record from state (3 to 4 weeks to get), etc.] every damn year and worrying about my passport being in someone else hands (US postal service and Thai Embassy) or being sent back to me (when I might have another trip planned out of the country) in a timely manner. Only one problem,........ thaiembdc.org/consular-services/non-immigrant-visas/non-immigrant-category-o/I was curious, so I took a look at what might be going on and found this,..... COMMENT UPDATE on 15 December 2017: The new retirement visa is an initiative between the Ministries of Public Health & Tourism. It has been passed by the Cabinet & is now with the Ministry of Interior. There are no confirmed details yet about what it will include. It will take at least three more months to finish. The above information was sent to me by the Ministry of Tourism and Sports. Some details may change. I will update this page if I hear of any changes.www.richardbarrow.com/2016/12/long-stay-thai-visa-for-senior-tourists-to-be-extended-to-10-years/I don’t know how trustworthy/accurate the site above is, but if true (3 months until it is in place) I might have to wait till 2018 to apply. My plan is to request the next Thai Visa when the Cherry Blossoms are blooming in Washington DC (tentative schedule between mid-March and mid-April depending on the winter) and it might be cutting it close if they don’t get their ducks in a row. Why go the O-A route anyway ?....just get a normal visa and convert to an extension of stay for retirement in country, dont need criminal check or medical certificate, just be over 50 and have either the 800k or proof of pension at 65k/m
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Post by sl on Jul 17, 2017 19:02:25 GMT 7
I guess I could. I already have the first O-A Visa as required and might in the future depending on how the O-X Visa requirement is written up when it becomes official and is posted at the Thai Washington DC Embassy website. www.thaiimmigration.net/thai-retirement-visa.htmland yes it is 5 years and another 5 years
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jul 17, 2017 22:26:10 GMT 7
^^^ why go to all the hassle. Get a METV and leave the country every 90 days, no need to thai up your money.
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Post by sl on Jul 18, 2017 18:39:50 GMT 7
^Leave the country every 90 days - I used to do that and I seldom spend more than 90 days (in a row) in country now. But I would rather come and go as I please and not have to set a holiday to leave the country just because of a Visa requirement (the 90 day thing). Did that for a few years when I was younger than 50.
You’re right. I don’t want to keep money tied up here in Thailand and would rather it was working for me in the states.
One reason I’m waiting for the requirements for the O-X Visa (similar to the O-A Visa but for the amount of money and insurance) to come online at the Thai Embassy in Washington DC is because it might be written differently than the requirements when trying to an O-X Visa in country.
When trying to get an O-A Visa in country it requires you to have the money in a Thai bank account (as I understand). But the O-A Visa requirement when applying outside the country, states you just have to show an account with the money in it. Which I’ve been doing for years.
When applying in the states: 6. Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.
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Post by Soutpeel on Jul 18, 2017 19:28:42 GMT 7
^Leave the country every 90 days - I used to do that and I seldom spend more than 90 days (in a row) in country now. But I would rather come and go as I please and not have to set a holiday to leave the country just because of a Visa requirement (the 90 day thing). Did that for a few years when I was younger than 50. You’re right. I don’t want to keep money tied up here in Thailand and would rather it was working for me in the states. One reason I’m waiting for the requirements for the O-X Visa (similar to the O-A Visa but for the amount of money and insurance) to come online at the Thai Embassy in Washington DC is because it might be written differently than the requirements when trying to an O-X Visa in country. When trying to get an O-A Visa in country it requires you to have the money in a Thai bank account (as I understand). But the O-A Visa requirement when applying outside the country, states you just have to show an account with the money in it. Which I’ve been doing for years. When applying in the states: 6. Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.I think you will your O-A extension for year 2 needs to be in a Thai bank if going the 800k route per attached link 5.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22O-A%22-(Long-Stay).htmlOne must get comfused between a visa and an extension of stay, two very different animals My take on the O-A is that you get it from out side the country for year 1 and then the extension is done in Thailand for year 2 onwards otherwise you have to fly home every year and reapply for a 1 year visa
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Post by chiangmai on Jul 18, 2017 19:50:15 GMT 7
^Leave the country every 90 days - I used to do that and I seldom spend more than 90 days (in a row) in country now. But I would rather come and go as I please and not have to set a holiday to leave the country just because of a Visa requirement (the 90 day thing). Did that for a few years when I was younger than 50. You’re right. I don’t want to keep money tied up here in Thailand and would rather it was working for me in the states. One reason I’m waiting for the requirements for the O-X Visa (similar to the O-A Visa but for the amount of money and insurance) to come online at the Thai Embassy in Washington DC is because it might be written differently than the requirements when trying to an O-X Visa in country. When trying to get an O-A Visa in country it requires you to have the money in a Thai bank account (as I understand). But the O-A Visa requirement when applying outside the country, states you just have to show an account with the money in it. Which I’ve been doing for years. When applying in the states: 6. Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.I think you will your O-A extension for year 2 needs to be in a Thai bank if going the 800k route per attached link 5.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22O-A%22-(Long-Stay).htmlOne must get comfused between a visa and an extension of stay, two very different animals My take on the O-A is that you get it from out side the country for year 1 and then the extension is done in Thailand for year 2 onwards otherwise you have to fly home every year and reapply for a 1 year visa Seconded, that's exactly how it works.
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Post by chiangmai on Jul 18, 2017 19:59:44 GMT 7
Maybe someone else has more up to date quotes for what they currently pay... For the cheaper packages which would align with the minimums in the article, if you think we have a family of 4 the premiums didn't make sense to me to get only 600k coverage per person. Something like Soutpeel got is a much better package, but again outside Thailand It's an old subject but here's some more up to date costs: I received quotes last year from Southern Cross and AXA, both were very similar. No coverage of course for pre-existing conditions, in most cases for at least five years and in some cases forever. Costs from Southern Cross were, 17k a month, a 250k deductible AND a co-pay of the first 300k. AXA (UK) said they would look at each instance and decide at the time whether it was pre-existing or not, covered or not. Me;now 68, big hikes in premiums from both companies every year going forward......I continue to self insure.
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Post by me on Jul 18, 2017 20:14:57 GMT 7
^Leave the country every 90 days - I used to do that and I seldom spend more than 90 days (in a row) in country now. But I would rather come and go as I please and not have to set a holiday to leave the country just because of a Visa requirement (the 90 day thing). Did that for a few years when I was younger than 50. You’re right. I don’t want to keep money tied up here in Thailand and would rather it was working for me in the states. One reason I’m waiting for the requirements for the O-X Visa (similar to the O-A Visa but for the amount of money and insurance) to come online at the Thai Embassy in Washington DC is because it might be written differently than the requirements when trying to an O-X Visa in country. When trying to get an O-A Visa in country it requires you to have the money in a Thai bank account (as I understand). But the O-A Visa requirement when applying outside the country, states you just have to show an account with the money in it. Which I’ve been doing for years. When applying in the states: 6. Bank statement or evidence of adequate finance showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 Baht or an income certificate (an original copy) with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 Baht, or a deposit account plus a monthly income totaling not less than 800,000 Baht In the case of submitting a bank statement, a letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required.I think you will your O-A extension for year 2 needs to be in a Thai bank if going the 800k route per attached link 5.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22O-A%22-(Long-Stay).htmlOne must get comfused between a visa and an extension of stay, two very different animals My take on the O-A is that you get it from out side the country for year 1 and then the extension is done in Thailand for year 2 onwards otherwise you have to fly home every year and reapply for a 1 year visa Not quite correct, if you leave thailand with a re-entry permit and re-enter you get an extra year from that date so you effectively get two years before you need to consider extensions.
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Post by chiangmai on Jul 18, 2017 20:44:49 GMT 7
I think you will your O-A extension for year 2 needs to be in a Thai bank if going the 800k route per attached link 5.4 Foreigner who wishes to extend his or her stay shall submit a request for extension of stay at the Office of the Immigration Bureau with documented evidence of money transfer or a deposit account in Thailand www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-%22O-A%22-(Long-Stay).htmlOne must get comfused between a visa and an extension of stay, two very different animals My take on the O-A is that you get it from out side the country for year 1 and then the extension is done in Thailand for year 2 onwards otherwise you have to fly home every year and reapply for a 1 year visa Not quite correct, if you leave thailand with a re-entry permit and re-enter you get an extra year from that date so you effectively get two years before you need to consider extensions. That's only correct if you leave and re-enter on a re-entry permit very close to the end of the first year, if that trip isn't made the visa needs to be extended at the end of year one.
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Post by me on Jul 18, 2017 22:56:24 GMT 7
yes you get a year on each entry, so if you have a re-entry permit it pays to leave and re-enter in the last month. They have an enter by date of one year,on each entry you get one year. and in general when issued are multiple entry...if not a re-entry permit is needed.
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Post by sl on Dec 28, 2017 6:17:15 GMT 7
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 28, 2017 22:43:21 GMT 7
^^^ no offence, but I am struggling to understand what it is you want. Correct me if I am wrong, neither you nor your mrs live here full time, what would a 10 year visa offer you, and why would you need one? If you are visting for a few months at a time, get a visa on being married to a Thai, valid for 90 days, can be extended at CW for a cost of 1900 baht, no need for medical insurance. If you prefer, get a 90 day visa in your home country, on arrival in Thailnd, convert to a retirement visa or spousal visa, no need for medical insurance. If you wish to purchase medical insurance in Thailand, companies such as Thai Prakan Cheewit can knock you out a policy for about 60,000 baht per year (depending on your age). Once you have obtained your one year extension at CW, apply for a multi exit visa, this allows you to come and go, but still keeps your original visa intact. I dont normally post such links, but this faceache place may be of help to you. www.facebook.com/groups/1395920320731833/about/If the above link doesnt work, try this, Thai visa advice in a fb search.
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