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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2017 11:18:59 GMT 7
There was that JAL flight (747?) that they managed to keep in the air for a while by pumping fuel from one wing to the other and back again to control it. Before it crashed.
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Post by me on Oct 30, 2017 12:06:44 GMT 7
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Post by me on Oct 30, 2017 12:15:56 GMT 7
There was that JAL flight (747?) that they managed to keep in the air for a while by pumping fuel from one wing to the other and back again to control it. Before it crashed. has been done succesful by airliners |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2017 12:43:34 GMT 7
There was that JAL flight (747?) that they managed to keep in the air for a while by pumping fuel from one wing to the other and back again to control it. Before it crashed. has been done succesful by airliners Even without a rudder. This is the one I was thinking of. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_123 |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2017 13:28:00 GMT 7
I learnt powered stalls in a Hughes Lightwing with a rotax up front. It was so light that when you lifted the nose the torque from the engine was almost enough to flip into a left spin. |
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Post by me on Oct 30, 2017 13:36:01 GMT 7
I learnt powered stalls in a Hughes Lightwing with a rotax up front. It was so light that when you lifted the nose the torque from the engine was almost enough to flip into a left spin. never done real aeorobatics, but I did my first training in a Chipmunk and my instructor used to end each lesson by going up a couple of thousand feet and showing me a few things,,,,,not sure I was cut out for aeorobatics. Only did a PPL because of moving around and money and let it lapse but flew in some nice places with a range of aircraft. Now I fly on flight sim. |
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Post by Mosha on Oct 30, 2017 15:57:18 GMT 7
From the link. I'd forgotten about that one... In December 2014, an AirAsia plane crashed into the Java Sea, killing all 162 people on board after the aircraft's rudder control system malfunctioned during the flight I thought rudder which controls yaw wouldnt cause a plane to go down. Elevator yes but not rudder. This is on a Aircraft Crash Investigations. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587 |
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Post by chiangmai on Oct 30, 2017 16:15:51 GMT 7
I learnt powered stalls in a Hughes Lightwing with a rotax up front. It was so light that when you lifted the nose the torque from the engine was almost enough to flip into a left spin. never done real aeorobatics, but I did my first training in a Chipmunk and my instructor used to end each lesson by going up a couple of thousand feet and showing me a few things,,,,,not sure I was cut out for aeorobatics. Only did a PPL because of moving around and money and let it lapse but flew in some nice places with a range of aircraft. Now I fly on flight sim. I watched that video and I was completely shocked it is so unsafe, she wasn't wearing a helmet so she could get a nasty bump on the head without one. |
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Post by oldie on Oct 30, 2017 17:05:16 GMT 7
I did a joyflight in a Tigermoth about 2 years ago.
After about half an hour of pleasant gentle flight the pilot said to me (through the tube) "I'll do a gentle loop", and I screamed back "No you won't".
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Post by Mosha on Nov 23, 2017 18:30:44 GMT 7
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Post by me on Nov 23, 2017 19:11:59 GMT 7
From the link. I'd forgotten about that one... In December 2014, an AirAsia plane crashed into the Java Sea, killing all 162 people on board after the aircraft's rudder control system malfunctioned during the flight I thought rudder which controls yaw wouldnt cause a plane to go down. Elevator yes but not rudder. There was a fault on Boeing 737 where an actuator stuck in the full open position causing full rudder which caused a yaw and a spin entry.....737s do not spin well. Boeing quietly fixed this and several other places where the same actuator was used. |
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Post by Mosha on Nov 24, 2017 10:12:01 GMT 7
From the link. I'd forgotten about that one... In December 2014, an AirAsia plane crashed into the Java Sea, killing all 162 people on board after the aircraft's rudder control system malfunctioned during the flight I thought rudder which controls yaw wouldnt cause a plane to go down. Elevator yes but not rudder. There was a fault on Boeing 737 where an actuator stuck in the full open position causing full rudder which caused a yaw and a spin entry.....737s do not spin well. Boeing quietly fixed this and several other places where the same actuator was used. There's an Aircraft Crash Investigations episode with an A300. The flight hit turbulence, and that captain yawed the rudder. The stress ripped the tail off. American Airlines I think. |
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