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Post by rubl on Apr 15, 2018 13:00:35 GMT 7
Well, maybe, but for vinyl lovers this must be worth the wait  "“High Definition Vinyl” Is Happening, Possibly as Early as Next Year With a new $4.8 million investment, an Austrian startup says it could have “HD vinyl” in stores by 2019 ... The HD vinyl process involves converting audio digitally to a 3D topographic map. Lasers are then used to inscribe the map onto the “stamper,” the part that stamps the grooves into the vinyl. According to Loibl, these methods allow for records to be made more precisely and with less loss of audio information. The results, he said, are vinyl LPs that can have up to 30 percent more playing time, 30 percent more amplitude, and overall more faithful sound reproduction. The technique would also avoid the chemicals that play a role in traditional vinyl manufacturing. Plus, the new-school HD vinyl LPs would still play on ordinary record players." pitchfork.com/news/high-definition-vinyl-is-happening-possibly-as-early-as-next-year/A bit more technical info hdvinyl.org |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 3:36:09 GMT 7
But i don't like high def vinyl. I like the old analogue sound.
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Post by oldie on Apr 16, 2018 7:38:09 GMT 7
If you pull the needle across the grooves it sounds like a fart.
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Post by rubl on Apr 16, 2018 11:40:56 GMT 7
But i don't like high def vinyl. I like the old analogue sound. It's more "I don't like HD vinyl, I like the older type BECAUSE of it's old analogue sound" Now we're able to recreate that old analogue sound for you on HD vinyl and guarantee that it will stay the same even after praying 'to be defined' number of times. Of course we might have to ask a slightly higher price for HS vinyl which offer the beautiful old-fashioned analogue sound, but for afficionadoes that should be no problem. Remember, the original analogue vinyl gets very rare and very expensive. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 16, 2018 21:24:28 GMT 7
The music industry killed off vinyl, companies such as Sony. I prefer analouge, but can listen to digital, thats the least of my problems. The worst of the lot in effin compression, (ITS EFFIN KILLIN MUSIC) music.tutsplus.com/tutorials/the-beginners-guide-to-compression--audio-953www.cnet.com/news/compression-is-killing-your-music/I actually feel sorry for todays zombie selfie generation, they dont know how music should sound, they have never heard or listened to it. Nothing better than sitting in my front room and putting on some vinyl, pour one or fire one up, kick back and listen, its like being transported to another world. Had No Quarter by Zep blasting out the other day, WOW, is all I can say. |
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Post by rubl on Apr 16, 2018 21:54:39 GMT 7
Being slightly deaf on one side (accident in the army when an earplug wasn't plugging in sufficiently) and being 'slightly' older I doubt my spectrum reaches above 10,000, maybe 12,000 Hz. Of course some have better hearing, but for me extra bucks spent on HiFi is a waste of money.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 16, 2018 22:00:09 GMT 7
Read and digest, www.amazon.com/Jimi-Hendrix-Concerts/dp/B000008GI3I am one of the lucky ones that owns the original, and Un compressed to eff out of it shit. Read this comment, This CD was released on the original Reprise studios which had a very high standard as compared to the current Sony/Hendrix releases. Highly recommended to any Hendrix fan...But, it is very difficult to find in mint condition.No wonder its hard to find, no one in their right mind would ever part with it. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 16, 2018 22:03:30 GMT 7
www.amazon.co.uk/Jimi-Hendrix-Concerts/dp/B000092DKZBefore my review for this album I'd like to make a quick (but important) comment about the mastering of this CD.
Released in 1988 by Media Motion this was the first European CD issue of The Jimi Hendrix Concerts. There is a difference in sound quality between this disc and the subsequent CD release on Castle Communications. The Castle disc was treated with noise reduction technology, which can tend to stifle or muffle the upper frequencies. When mastering the Media Motion release the engineers did not apply noise reduction, so consequently it sounds more "alive" than the Castle pressing.
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Post by 3 on Apr 17, 2018 3:28:20 GMT 7
I kind of agree and also disagree with you on some points there RGS, I'll copy and paste due to no multi quote.
The worst of the lot in effin compression, (ITS EFFIN KILLIN MUSIC)
Agreed and disagreed, back in the day cassette tapes and vinyl did not have the dynamic range we have today with digital media.
A modern day recording (recorded on todays 24 or 32 bit tech) with dynamic compression and limiting used in the correct manner would still sound way better than old stuff.
I'm aware of the loudness wars but post a link to some tracks you think are dynamically over compressed, just out of interest.
As you say though in terms of re-mastering old stuff....
The very 1st remastered album I heard was one of Hendix's, I used to listen to the album from a non branded shit normal type cassette tape, the recording itself was also recorded too low in terms of level meters reaching near optimum and probably from a shit turntable with crap stylus. On top of that the speakers I had at the time were severely broken (1 tweeter blown the others ripped woofer sealed up with silicone).
When I heard the remaster on a decent stereo it was a WTF moment for sure, reverb tails lost, vocals squished through a water filled li-lo, similar to taking a filet mignon steak and passing it through a very rusty old meat grinding machine multiple times to make a burger...kind of deal.
It was not listenable to my ears.
I'm a big vinyl fan but modern music (provided its done by a decent producer and master engineer) IMO has a better dynamic range and also a better stereo image.
Tell me some old songs that will test dynamic range, bass/treble and stereo image and I will find you a better modern day song (might be a shit song) with better qualities in all 3 areas and you'll hear the difference, more so the better your system is.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 18, 2018 21:36:35 GMT 7
^^^ concur with what you are saying.
Can be summed up in two word, ears and equipment.
If your ears are shot, it dont matter what you listen to or how you listen to it.
If you are listening to a HDCD or SACD on a cheapo 300 quid Sony system, it will still sound like crap.
Not mentioned, how do you listen to music, headphones, streaming in the car, or sat in your front room?
What do you listen to, classical, Talk Talk, where there is always quiet and loud passages of music, stereo separation.
Listen to this on vinyl on a decent system, scare the shit out of you.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 18, 2018 21:38:34 GMT 7
Crap albums, Led Zep, The Song Remains The Same, I have bootlegs of that concert that sound way better than what was released.
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Post by oldie on Apr 18, 2018 22:12:46 GMT 7
I had the marantz turntables and all the other top shelf amplifiers and 3-way matrix speakers.
It sounded great at the time, but listening to that now is like scratching your ears out with course sandpaper.
Give me a digital device with cheap Logitech Bluetooth speakers over that any day.
And from there it only gets better.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 18, 2018 22:43:32 GMT 7
Listen to this on a proper system.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Apr 18, 2018 23:00:39 GMT 7
3, this is what I am talking about.
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Post by smokie36 on Apr 19, 2018 9:46:07 GMT 7
Load of waffle above. Its the poor quality supply of MDMA which has killed music.
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