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Post by smokie36 on Aug 26, 2019 3:50:24 GMT 7
I reckon Fletch is a closet Lib Dem.
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 12, 2019 12:10:14 GMT 7
75 as the default age seems ridiculous to me. So many pensioners really wouldn't be fit to work at that age. They would be if they exercised and ate proper food instead of sitting on their fat arses eating home delivered pizzas. To a point this has some truth but many simply would not. Bad genetics alone would see mass starvation....particularly in Wales and the Black Country....oh and parts of north Cornwall. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 12, 2019 20:30:32 GMT 7
75 as the default age seems ridiculous to me. So many pensioners really wouldn't be fit to work at that age. And as an employer you would really have question if 70 year olds were value for money. Years of built up service, so a high salary. A lot of "suitable jobs" from employer perspective would end up being low level low salaried jobs. By all means allow people to voluntarily work until 75, but making it compulsory would be ridiculous and so many pitfalls on all sides With the advances on free medical care in the UK, the problem is the poor are living too long.Best have another cull, time for another war. Wow, I dont know if this would have been carried out in the UK, spoke to a Thai lady earlier, she has just paid 1.2 million baht for a quadruple bypass for her mother, aged 87. Sorry my medical Thai isnt good enough, from what I could gather, veins were removed from her thighs, sen lah, sam saen baht. This was in a govt hospital in bkk noi, for all you who self insure, keep in mind, who knows what the cost would have been in some private hospital. |
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Post by chiangmai on Sept 13, 2019 6:53:36 GMT 7
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Post by rubl on Sept 13, 2019 9:49:19 GMT 7
Well, looking at the URL itself I might imagine the woman had the package rather than the promotion  |
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Post by Mosha on Sept 13, 2019 15:28:41 GMT 7
The 75 limit may work for someone sat at a desk.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 13, 2019 20:23:11 GMT 7
Too be honest, I was more surprised that the operation was even carried out, given the age. I was also surprised it wasnt covered under the 30 baht scheme, I suppose even that has its limits. Another thing as a farang I have encountered, I know Bkk better than you average peon who lives here, many dont travel out of a 5 km range, live work and socialise all within their district, they have no need to travel. |
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Post by Fletchsmile on Sept 14, 2019 1:44:25 GMT 7
With the advances on free medical care in the UK, the problem is the poor are living too long.Best have another cull, time for another war. Wow, I dont know if this would have been carried out in the UK, spoke to a Thai lady earlier, she has just paid 1.2 million baht for a quadruple bypass for her mother, aged 87. Sorry my medical Thai isnt good enough, from what I could gather, veins were removed from her thighs, sen lah, sam saen baht. This was in a govt hospital in bkk noi, for all you who self insure, keep in mind, who knows what the cost would have been in some private hospital.
I'm not a medical expert on this either. ChiangMai's numbers and link are ball park what I'd expect in a decent private hospital. Government is cheaper, but I still think a couple of hundred K
The other thing I'd say is that there's like a normal quadruple bipass, and a quadruple bipass++ (fletch's technical term  ) where they do key veins in your legs as well with other complications at the same time. Can't remember exactly what they call it. That would be more expensive I guess.
30 baht scheme doesn't cut it for everything and there are quite a few exclusions
Like rgs said, the surprise is doing it on an 87 year old. But then again what's the choice?
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Post by chiangmai on Sept 14, 2019 4:54:10 GMT 7
The cost difference for such things seems to be getting wider between Bangkok and the rest of the country and the annual rate of cost increase seems to be getting steeper. One web site shows the today cost of balloon and stent to be 414k at Bumrungrad, ten years ago it was 150K - the cost of that procedure at a private hospital in CM costs 130k max., today. www.bangkokhospital-chiangmai.com/en/package-promotions/coronary-angiogram-2019/Or perhaps it's just Bumrungrad prices that are now unrealistic and no longer competitive, dunno. Whatever, if you're going to have surgery, perhaps consider the regions unless you've got solid medical insurance. |
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Post by chiangmai on Sept 14, 2019 6:08:46 GMT 7
On the subject of hospital pricing.....I see from a thread over the road that State Hospitals have introduced price increases across for foreigners at all state hospitals in Thailand, the uplift is at least 100% and based on how you want to calculate it, as much as 400%.  |
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Post by rubl on Sept 14, 2019 8:55:55 GMT 7
Back to the topic of pension age raising to 75, yes or no, keep in mind that
. 'someone' has to pay for the pension
. if premiums haven't been saved by the state they pay now from what is raised in taxes now
. if the number of pensioners increases so does the state's need for tax income
. on average pensioners (as in older people) are more likely to require medical attention, and with age increasingly expensive
So we either need to increase the tax base, increase pension age or introduce 'voluntary' euthanasia schemes. Maybe a combination of the first two.
Newsflashy - newsflashy - newsflashy
The government has firmly rejected importing more people in order to broaden the taxpayer base. A ministry has been created to tackle the problem in an acceptable way. Scientists have calculated that with the current, native population the pension financing can be handled with a pension age of 67 years if only women of childbearing age would do their patriotic duty. A new program is being set up to groom females at an early age to prepare them for their God-given position in society.
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Post by rubl on Sept 14, 2019 8:59:12 GMT 7
The 75 limit may work for someone sat at a desk. You shouldn't take a desk job too lightly, my dear chap. Sitting at a desk only also has it's disadvantages. Back problems, big bum, cuts in fingers from paper shuffling and the like  |
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 14, 2019 23:18:03 GMT 7
The 75 limit may work for someone sat at a desk. You shouldn't take a desk job too lightly, my dear chap. Sitting at a desk only also has it's disadvantages. Back problems, big bum, cuts in fingers from paper shuffling and the like What issues can I expect to encounter after a long career spent standing around watching the clock turn 5? |
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Post by rubl on Sept 14, 2019 23:24:31 GMT 7
You shouldn't take a desk job too lightly, my dear chap. Sitting at a desk only also has it's disadvantages. Back problems, big bum, cuts in fingers from paper shuffling and the like What issues can I expect to encounter after a long career spent standing around watching the clock turn 5? Dirty pockets in your pants from all the batteries you kept carrying just in case the clock would stop before  |
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) where they do key veins in your legs as well with other complications at the same time. Can't remember exactly what they call it. That would be more expensive I guess.
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