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Post by Mosha on May 17, 2020 11:04:58 GMT 7
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Post by Mosha on May 19, 2020 7:04:32 GMT 7
Government has pulled out of a 1.8Bn $ rescue deal in favour of "Refurbishment."
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Post by rubl on May 19, 2020 15:09:34 GMT 7
I wonder how much money various governments have dumped into this bottomless 'airline' over the last twentyfive years.
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Post by Mosha on May 19, 2020 15:22:26 GMT 7
Just one example of the problem is those Airbus A340-600s.
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Post by Mosha on May 19, 2020 16:56:29 GMT 7
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Post by siampolee on May 19, 2020 19:13:57 GMT 7
Sell it via the SET. No 51% Thai majority share holding crap either, recruit a management team with proven records in aviation engineering, personnel management and airline operation. The world would be and is the oyster for the recruit of such specialist people looking for a name making challenge.
First priority, stadardise the aircraft fleet, such an action would in fact drastically lower fleet maintenance cost as well as cutting cost concerning both aircraft crew and maintenance crew training costs...
Look at destinations served, passenger loading, flight planning, cargo carrying services, etc plus timetabling as well as price structuring. Halt the multitude of freebie for the MPs government staff and the civil service leeches and their families.
Remove the political and governmental interference and then, and only then, their might just be a chance for the national carrier to operate without relying on the taxpayer to fund its operations and the funding of the current crop of leeches and the lack lustre management team
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Post by AyG on May 19, 2020 20:30:17 GMT 7
"The world would be and is the oyster for the recruit of such specialist people looking for a name making challenge."
But, this being Thailand, they won't want to bring in foreign expertise.
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Post by siampolee on May 19, 2020 20:48:34 GMT 7
Dsfly AyG you are right. My post is indeed a dream as to what can and should be done in the land of, We know best."
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 19, 2020 20:56:55 GMT 7
"The world would be and is the oyster for the recruit of such specialist people looking for a name making challenge." But, this being Thailand, they won't want to bring in foreign expertise. They dont need to bring in farangs, there are plenty of thais there with the knowledge and expertise, its the patronage system thats the problem. Thai friend of mine started off as an engineer, give the company their due, they recognised local talent and sponsored him for his pilots license. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 19, 2020 21:00:07 GMT 7
we in the west have the exact same problem, closed shops, union shops, jobs passed down from father to son, dead mans shoes etc etc.
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Post by rubl on May 19, 2020 22:10:37 GMT 7
Just one example of the problem is those Airbus A340-600s. A quick check found "29.05.2014 - 16:06 UTC Thai Airways International (TG, Bangkok Suvarnabhumi) has officially put four of its mothballed A340-500s up for sale. According to tender documents seen by ch-aviation, the jets in question are: HS-TLA (cn 624), HS-TLB (cn 628), HS-TLC (cn 698), and HS-TLD (cn 775), all of which are parked at Bangkok Don Mueang. The Thai carrier has set a deadline of June 11 for proposals and bids to be submitted. A bid to sell one of the aircraft to British firm, AvCon Worldwide, which represents the interests of Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, collapsed in October last year when the airline's board rejected AvCon's proposed acquisition price of USD23.5million as being too low." www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/28345-thai-airways-intl-puts-its-four-a340-500s-up-for-saleSeptember 19, 2019 "What Happened To Thai Airways Airbus A340 Aircraft? It has now been over four years since Thai Airways International retired its Airbus A340 aircraft. The airline operated the A340’s last flights on the 28th March 2016. Flight Global reported at the time that the A340’s last flights for Thai Airways were the Singapore-Bangkok, Zurich-Singapore and Frankfurt-Bangkok routes. ... Until the sale goes through, the majority of the A340s are still in storage with Thai. However, one of the units did manage to be shifted. CH-Aviation reported that the Royal Thai Air Force acquired an A340-500 from Thai Airways back in May 2016. The sale was reported to be worth 1.745 billion baht ($56.9m). ..." simpleflying.com/thai-airways-a340/ |
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Post by smokie36 on May 20, 2020 1:06:21 GMT 7
Thai sticks and rizla and freshly prepared krapow moo served on board with a Leo or two to wash it down.
Full planes guaranteed.
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Post by Mosha on May 20, 2020 11:27:58 GMT 7
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Post by Mosha on May 20, 2020 11:30:59 GMT 7
Just one example of the problem is those Airbus A340-600s. A quick check found "29.05.2014 - 16:06 UTC Thai Airways International (TG, Bangkok Suvarnabhumi) has officially put four of its mothballed A340-500s up for sale. According to tender documents seen by ch-aviation, the jets in question are: HS-TLA (cn 624), HS-TLB (cn 628), HS-TLC (cn 698), and HS-TLD (cn 775), all of which are parked at Bangkok Don Mueang. The Thai carrier has set a deadline of June 11 for proposals and bids to be submitted. A bid to sell one of the aircraft to British firm, AvCon Worldwide, which represents the interests of Saudi Arabia's Prince Faisal al-Saud, collapsed in October last year when the airline's board rejected AvCon's proposed acquisition price of USD23.5million as being too low." www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/28345-thai-airways-intl-puts-its-four-a340-500s-up-for-saleSeptember 19, 2019 "What Happened To Thai Airways Airbus A340 Aircraft? It has now been over four years since Thai Airways International retired its Airbus A340 aircraft. The airline operated the A340’s last flights on the 28th March 2016. Flight Global reported at the time that the A340’s last flights for Thai Airways were the Singapore-Bangkok, Zurich-Singapore and Frankfurt-Bangkok routes. ... Until the sale goes through, the majority of the A340s are still in storage with Thai. However, one of the units did manage to be shifted. CH-Aviation reported that the Royal Thai Air Force acquired an A340-500 from Thai Airways back in May 2016. The sale was reported to be worth 1.745 billion baht ($56.9m). ..." simpleflying.com/thai-airways-a340/Years ago an Arab Prince offered to buy one to turn into a private jet. It appears Thai Airways look upon selling aircraft, like Thais look upon selling cars. |
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Post by AyG on May 20, 2020 11:45:34 GMT 7
"The world would be and is the oyster for the recruit of such specialist people looking for a name making challenge." But, this being Thailand, they won't want to bring in foreign expertise. They dont need to bring in farangs, there are plenty of thais there with the knowledge and expertise, its the patronage system thats the problem. Thai friend of mine started off as an engineer, give the company their due, they recognised local talent and sponsored him for his pilots license. Whilst there may be a few Thai men (I'd like to write "people", but in practice it's "men") with the ability to pilot a large plane, I'm not aware of any Thai people with practical experience of turning around a major airline. That's quite a different skill set. A few may well have the talent, but most certainly don't have the experience. And those that do have the talent will never rise to the top. Just look at the farce that is the Thai education system. In Thailand the cream never rises to the top. |
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