rott
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 3,630
Likes: 2,661
|
Post by rott on Jun 12, 2020 10:04:53 GMT 7
WTF are you on about? They call themselves antifa, as you do. Everybody who is part of the mainstream is regarded as a fascist. No doubt including anyone who (shock...horror) votes Conservative. The normal protesters don't call themselves antifa, neither do I call them such. Breitbard calls them that, other far off right sites call them that. Trump calls them that and suggests they're all terrorists while hiding in, ehm, that is inspecting his WH bunker. TheTelegraph talks about anti-racist protesters. For your info the only people I have called antifa are antifa themselves. Possibly you are confusing me with someone else. And those left of centre have been happy for years to describe themselves as anti- fascist and often have had demonstrations to show it. Including one where Brian Clough proudly participated. Supporting the existence of the United Kingdom and the constitutional monarchy can be enough to have you labelled as fascist. Do these normal protesters of whom you speak object to being used as cover for criminals?
|
|
smokie36
Vigilante
Posts: 15,568
Likes: 8,994
|
Post by smokie36 on Jun 12, 2020 11:34:09 GMT 7
Gads man smell the white privilege here. Please explain this? I live in the world but did not invent it, and I recognise that being born in the West and white was a lucky break. But many have had luckier breaks including, we are led to believe, the Japanese. I've been told white privilege refers to the disadvantage blacks face due to their skin colour....rather than actual white privilege as we might see the phrase. Yes I know.
|
|
chiangmai
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 6,133
Likes: 5,131
|
Post by chiangmai on Jun 12, 2020 15:14:04 GMT 7
The Beeb is taking down the Fawlty Towers episode "The Germans", it's racist apparently. The lunatics are now firmly in charge of the asylum.
|
|
rubl
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
The wondering type
Posts: 23,408
Likes: 8,764
|
Post by rubl on Jun 12, 2020 15:49:43 GMT 7
The normal protesters don't call themselves antifa, neither do I call them such. Breitbard calls them that, other far off right sites call them that. Trump calls them that and suggests they're all terrorists while hiding in, ehm, that is inspecting his WH bunker. TheTelegraph talks about anti-racist protesters. For your info the only people I have called antifa are antifa themselves. Possibly you are confusing me with someone else. And those left of centre have been happy for years to describe themselves as anti- fascist and often have had demonstrations to show it. Including one where Brian Clough proudly participated. Supporting the existence of the United Kingdom and the constitutional monarchy can be enough to have you labelled as fascist. Do these normal protesters of whom you speak object to being used as cover for criminals? As far as I know the normal anti-racist protesters in London were reasonably peacefull as protests go. Only some elements more 'rowdy' and possibly committing offences. Even Stephen Yaxley-Lennon seems to have straggler-ons who are less savoury. Still none seem used as cover for criminals. Of course, even in Britain you are innocent till proven guilty and sentenced/convicted.
|
|
rott
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 3,630
Likes: 2,661
|
Post by rott on Jun 12, 2020 16:22:32 GMT 7
It does seem a bit odd to me that when an Orange parade comes under attack, it is "Orange troublemakers" who are blamed and there is talk of banning "provocative" parades.
Here it is those in the "protest" who cause the problems, is there any criticism or talk of bans?
|
|
|
Post by tigerfish on Jun 12, 2020 16:22:54 GMT 7
The Beeb is taking down the Fawlty Towers episode "The Germans", it's racist apparently. The lunatics are now firmly in charge of the asylum. So where's the consistency ? What's good enough for the Goose, is good for the Gander, isn't it ?
|
|
rubl
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
The wondering type
Posts: 23,408
Likes: 8,764
|
Post by rubl on Jun 12, 2020 16:22:59 GMT 7
Moving from the London protests to those in Seattle, USA, Trump seems to have tqwittered on Wednesday about "ugly Anarchists".
Does that mean Trump only wants handsome Anarchists?
|
|
rubl
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
The wondering type
Posts: 23,408
Likes: 8,764
|
Post by rubl on Jun 12, 2020 16:28:01 GMT 7
It does seem a bit odd to me that when an Orange parade comes under attack, it is "Orange troublemakers" who are blamed and there is talk of banning "provocative" parades. Here it is those in the "protest" who cause the problems, is there any criticism or talk of bans? Not sure you can make that comparison just like that. With the Orange parade you have two groups hating each other and using the opportunity to show that. BTW does the 'any other' colour group also parades in Belfast? In London we have protesters protesting racism and the usual fringes causing mayhem. Some like any opportunity to have it out with the police. BTW "BLM organisers call off London event to avoid clashes with far right Black Lives Matters activists say hate groups plan to target protests and ‘defend memorials’" www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/11/blm-organisers-call-off-london-event-to-prevent-clashes-with-far-right
|
|
oldie
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 5,609
Likes: 4,443
|
Post by oldie on Jun 12, 2020 16:53:54 GMT 7
I'm dishing out random "likes". Who did I miss?
|
|
|
Post by tigerfish on Jun 12, 2020 17:24:55 GMT 7
I'm dishing out random "likes". Who did I miss? That just got me thinking about the great TVF fiasco a few years back now, when they introduced the like/dislike option and as i remember it. That got knocked on the head because a number of snow flakes on there got the ego's bruised and ran off crying to their bent Mod pals.
|
|
oldie
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 5,609
Likes: 4,443
|
Post by oldie on Jun 12, 2020 17:37:19 GMT 7
I'm dishing out random "likes". Who did I miss? That just got me thinking about the great TVF fiasco a few years back now, when they introduced the like/dislike option and as i remember it. That got knocked on the head because a number of snow flakes on there got the ego's bruised and ran off crying to their bent Mod pals. I used to dish out a week of "likes" to the ones that annoyed me, then go back a week later and remove them all.
|
|
rott
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
Posts: 3,630
Likes: 2,661
|
Post by rott on Jun 12, 2020 18:28:18 GMT 7
It does seem a bit odd to me that when an Orange parade comes under attack, it is "Orange troublemakers" who are blamed and there is talk of banning "provocative" parades. Here it is those in the "protest" who cause the problems, is there any criticism or talk of bans? Not sure you can make that comparison just like that. With the Orange parade you have two groups hating each other and using the opportunity to show that. BTW does the 'any other' colour group also parades in Belfast? In London we have protesters protesting racism and the usual fringes causing mayhem. Some like any opportunity to have it out with the police. BTW "BLM organisers call off London event to avoid clashes with far right Black Lives Matters activists say hate groups plan to target protests and ‘defend memorials’" www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/11/blm-organisers-call-off-london-event-to-prevent-clashes-with-far-rightSo an expert on Orange parades now? I'll leave it to you then.
|
|
smokie36
Vigilante
Posts: 15,568
Likes: 8,994
|
Post by smokie36 on Jun 12, 2020 19:01:27 GMT 7
It does seem a bit odd to me that when an Orange parade comes under attack, it is "Orange troublemakers" who are blamed and there is talk of banning "provocative" parades. Here it is those in the "protest" who cause the problems, is there any criticism or talk of bans? Aye orange marches...amusing in the way it is to watch a low grade car crash. Outdated and provocative nonsense.
|
|
rubl
Crazy Mango Extraordinaire
The wondering type
Posts: 23,408
Likes: 8,764
|
Post by rubl on Jun 12, 2020 20:41:32 GMT 7
Not sure you can make that comparison just like that. With the Orange parade you have two groups hating each other and using the opportunity to show that. BTW does the 'any other' colour group also parades in Belfast? In London we have protesters protesting racism and the usual fringes causing mayhem. Some like any opportunity to have it out with the police. BTW "BLM organisers call off London event to avoid clashes with far right Black Lives Matters activists say hate groups plan to target protests and ‘defend memorials’" www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/11/blm-organisers-call-off-london-event-to-prevent-clashes-with-far-rightSo an expert on Orange parades now? I'll leave it to you then. Did I say that? It would seem you have nothing to say so you just move into 'shoot the messenger mode'. One would almost get the impression that that is typical for older Englishmen. Pity really if that were so.
|
|
|
Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 12, 2020 21:16:36 GMT 7
our dutchy boy has been too long in exile, the world has moved on. Churchill is now viewed as a racist, Bomber Harris as a war criminal, Rudyard Kipling a white priveleged .elite, etc etc. The irony of it all, black lives didnt seem to matter to the darling of the left wing luvvies, Winnie Mandela when she was putting necklaces around the necks of black lives. Black lives didnt matter to Mugabae as he raped the country and looted its wealth Lewis Hamilton is an example of the sickening, myopic, po-faced hypocrisy of the new face of BLM. Black lives did not seem worth bothering about when it was 17 year olds murdering each other in London. They are also silent when their fellow BLMers are murdering, maiming and looting daily. Add, Raheem Sterling and Anthony Joshua to the list.
|
|