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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 19:48:28 GMT 7
How do you like yours?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 21:42:44 GMT 7
Medium to well-don't want it jumping off my plate.
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Post by sl on Dec 3, 2015 0:41:49 GMT 7
I don’t eat red meat any longer (for the most part). But when I did, I would always request medium rare. Steak (and where it starts),……. The girlfriend enjoys visiting the newborns when we are here. These pictures were taken last Monday. They are all less than a month old. The calf in the last picture is less than a day old. They’ll be on someone’s plate is less than two years. Enjoy: www.beefitswhatsfordinner.com/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 1:25:49 GMT 7
^^ The one in the middle is saying -
"Aye, do you bloody well think so? we'll soon see about that!!!!"
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 1:40:59 GMT 7
I worked on a farm during the summer in my youth, sometimes lived on it. The farmer would get the occasional nudge from his wife saying that she needed money, and that was the death knell for one of the beasts in the field.
The float ( market truck ) would show up, and every cow would run in the opposite direction. I can't say they knew it was their final carriage, but they certainly knew once they were on the float they were never coming back.
At the market, the local butchery buyers would spend all day getting drunk while bidding on the beasts. They were always given a tip from each farmer to encourage them to buy again. It was a poor farmer that got on the wrong side of the buyers.
My Mum worked in admin as the local abattoir for a while, and she would see the unfortunate animals being delivered to meet their fate by the float. It was a regular occurrence for one or two to make a bid for freedom at this point. That would cause traffic chaos as these young, strong beats ran for their lives.
Alas, always useless.
One famous occasion my farmer friend decided to follow one of his beasts through the process to butchery, then bought some of the steak for home consumption. His reasoning was to see how the meat he reared tasted. This fellow had four kids, and they all gathered round the table to tuck into the meal prepared by their extraordinarily talented cook Mum.
Just when the dish(es) were almost finished, Mr Farmer announced it was one of their own cattle they were eating. Each and every person at the table gagged - including Mum. There's that most unusual bond between farmers and animals. Yes, they are raised for the plate - but until they are on the plate they are treated with care and compassion. Proof of that is easily found if you see an animal lame or damaged by a fence. It may be due for the plate in a few months, but the idea of their animals in pain repels any decent farmer.
And everyone at the table knew the beast that was served to them they had all seen it being collected by the float. While they knew it was destined for someone else's plate, it wasn't acceptable that said beast was on theirs.
My farmer pal never made that mistake again.
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Post by sl on Dec 3, 2015 6:50:55 GMT 7
One famous occasion my farmer friend decided to follow one of his beasts through the process to butchery, then bought some of the steak for home consumption. His reasoning was to see how the meat he reared tasted. This fellow had four kids, and they all gathered round the table to tuck into the meal prepared by their extraordinarily talented cook Mum. Just when the dish(es) were almost finished, Mr Farmer announced it was one of their own cattle they were eating. Each and every person at the table gagged - including Mum. There's that most unusual bond between farmers and animals. Yes, they are raised for the plate - but until they are on the plate they are treated with care and compassion. Proof of that is easily found if you see an animal lame or damaged by a fence. It may be due for the plate in a few months, but the idea of their animals in pain repels any decent farmer. Every year at least 3 and upwards to 10 are lost to lightning strikes. I recently saw a picture the manager took where 3 were lost with one bolt. The cattle never make it to anyone’s plate. Every now and then a cow will break a leg. You can’t take it to market so it is shared between the guys (and their families) working on the ranch. They have no problem taking the meat home. However there are exceptions. A few years ago there was one calf that was born with a sight deficiency. It was taken from its mother and put in the horse pasture. The poor animal would bump into everything. At times you would drive by and see it standing out towards the middle of the pond crying (out) because it couldn’t find its way out. After a period of time it learned its way around, but never figured out the pond (after a few hours it would work its way out). Some of the guys named it (bad idea), Stupid. Later someone visiting the ranch heard the name and took offence and renamed it Stupendous. The name stuck. The manager was requested not to take the calf to market. Every morning (not weekends) someone would go out to the horse barn and put sweet feed into a bucket to bring the horses into the stable (each horse has its own stall). The calf also received its portion of sweet feed and was growing (quickly!). The manager told me the little calf would hear the guys coming into the horse barn and would bolt to the gate when it heard it open. Not knowing when to stop (because it was almost blind) it would on occasion knock the guys down trying to get to the sweet feed. The manager told me the calf (weighing over 650 pounds) had knocked him down one too many times and he was going to take the calf to the market if it happened again. While I was overseas the calf was taken to market. Must have hit the manager that one last time. The calf was missed by many. While leaving the ranch this afternoon I asked the girlfriend to take a picture of a new calf (that is cared for by the guys working there) that lost its mother (maybe to a lightning strike?) and was put into the horse pasture. It can see well and has no health problems. It hasn’t been given a name yet, but it is adorable. Angus and Hereford mix
Little story about how easy you can get attached,......... One year when the girlfriend started visiting the states she asked if she could see some calves. I took her to a pasture where about two hundred had been recently separated from their mothers, with a bucket of sweet feed. I told her to make her way (by herself) to a pole (to protect her) and to shake the bucket. The young calves (who are curious) circled her. You would have thought she had died and gone to heaven because of the smile she had on her face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2015 9:31:39 GMT 7
Steak always medium rare. Sear on both sides in a skillet to caramelize, season, remove. Dash of Worcestershire sauce in the pan juices with some onions and a drop of balsamic vinegar in the skillet, pan-fry until onions are browned up but not burnt, add the steak back and cook until it is medium rare. HP optional. With steak the quality of the meat is all important.
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Post by cc1 on Dec 3, 2015 21:38:16 GMT 7
T- bone is yesterday...tomahawk is the new temple...
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 3, 2015 21:59:31 GMT 7
One famous occasion my farmer friend decided to follow one of his beasts through the process to butchery, then bought some of the steak for home consumption. His reasoning was to see how the meat he reared tasted. This fellow had four kids, and they all gathered round the table to tuck into the meal prepared by their extraordinarily talented cook Mum. Just when the dish(es) were almost finished, Mr Farmer announced it was one of their own cattle they were eating. Each and every person at the table gagged - including Mum. There's that most unusual bond between farmers and animals. Yes, they are raised for the plate - but until they are on the plate they are treated with care and compassion. Proof of that is easily found if you see an animal lame or damaged by a fence. It may be due for the plate in a few months, but the idea of their animals in pain repels any decent farmer. Every year at least 3 and upwards to 10 are lost to lightning strikes. I recently saw a picture the manager took where 3 were lost with one bolt. The cattle never make it to anyone’s plate. Every now and then a cow will break a leg. You can’t take it to market so it is shared between the guys (and their families) working on the ranch. They have no problem taking the meat home. However there are exceptions. A few years ago there was one calf that was born with a sight deficiency. It was taken from its mother and put in the horse pasture. The poor animal would bump into everything. At times you would drive by and see it standing out towards the middle of the pond crying (out) because it couldn’t find its way out. After a period of time it learned its way around, but never figured out the pond (after a few hours it would work its way out). Some of the guys named it (bad idea), Stupid. Later someone visiting the ranch heard the name and took offence and renamed it Stupendous. The name stuck. The manager was requested not to take the calf to market. Every morning (not weekends) someone would go out to the horse barn and put sweet feed into a bucket to bring the horses into the stable (each horse has its own stall). The calf also received its portion of sweet feed and was growing (quickly!). The manager told me the little calf would hear the guys coming into the horse barn and would bolt to the gate when it heard it open. Not knowing when to stop (because it was almost blind) it would on occasion knock the guys down trying to get to the sweet feed. The manager told me the calf (weighing over 650 pounds) had knocked him down one too many times and he was going to take the calf to the market if it happened again. While I was overseas the calf was taken to market. Must have hit the manager that one last time. The calf was missed by many. While leaving the ranch this afternoon I asked the girlfriend to take a picture of a new calf (that is cared for by the guys working there) that lost its mother (maybe to a lightning strike?) and was put into the horse pasture. It can see well and has no health problems. It hasn’t been given a name yet, but it is adorable. Angus and Hereford mix
Little story about how easy you can get attached,......... One year when the girlfriend started visiting the states she asked if she could see some calves. I took her to a pasture where about two hundred had been recently separated from their mothers, with a bucket of sweet feed. I told her to make her way (by herself) to a pole (to protect her) and to shake the bucket. The young calves (who are curious) circled her. You would have thought she had died and gone to heaven because of the smile she had on her face. What beautiful pictures, and a great story to boot. There are certain things money cant buy, this is one of them.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 3, 2015 22:03:37 GMT 7
Carrying on from the above.
The mrs and I were on the bus going into town one day, we had to pass through some countryside.
We were sat upstairs on the double decker bus, my mrs was gobsmacked, she had never seen a horse with 5 legs before, she moved from one side of the bus to the other to get a better look, til it dawned on her, horses dont have 5 legs.
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Post by cmk on Dec 28, 2015 13:16:23 GMT 7
I used to conduct tours of our meat packing plant for guests including restaurant managers for the chain (we butchered all our own beef). After the tour I'd take the fellows to a steak house for lunch. The beef available in Thailand I grind up for hamburger. Not T-bone of course. Normally I use NZ ribeye from Lotus. www.lawrysonline.com/ stole one of my concept restaurants a while back. I worked for them in Chicago right out of college. Lawry's along with Alto-Shaam invented slow cooked prime rib 60 years ago. For a steak I was used to www.buckheadbeef.com/beef Nothing like that in Thailand the closest thing is Kobe beef/Wagyu. www.bernssteakhouse.com/Our-Steaks/ is good. Although my customers in the USA said the beef at my restaurant was better. Normally one gets into this national beef argument and grass fed as opposed to corn fed and Wagyu as opposed to Angus. Beef consumption beef2live.com/story-world-beef-consumption-per-capita-ranking-countries-0-1116341 Hong Kong 582,000 7,219,700 123.51 2 Argentina 2,700,000 42,669,500 96.95 3 Uruguay 175,000 3,286,314 81.59 4 Brazil 7,925,000 201,032,714 60.40 5 United States 11,172,000 317,916,000 53.84
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