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Post by rubl on Feb 20, 2016 11:53:16 GMT 7
Not everyone requires (or even wants) the always connected, in charge while outdoors kind of stuff. Certainly business still feel a need for desktops or something similar. Personally I feel happy with a reasonable notebook and a phone which can handle calls and SMS. Call me old-fashioned if you want  "Windows 10 is expected to help the market again this year, as businesses look at the state of their fleets and consider the fact that Microsoft's already ended mainstream support for Windows 7. It's expected that plenty of organisations will look therefore decide 2016's as good a time as any to take the plunge on a new PC fleet, powered by Windows 10. What else will they buy? We asked folks from the top three PC-makers – Dell, Lenovo and HP – what they see as must-haves in a 2016-vintage PC to give you a feel for what you'll be offered. " www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/15/2016_business_pc_guide/ |
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Post by cmk on Feb 20, 2016 12:03:42 GMT 7
Microsoft won't end security updates for your Windows 7 PC until Jan. 14, 2020.
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Post by rubl on Feb 20, 2016 13:15:26 GMT 7
Microsoft won't end security updates for your Windows 7 PC until Jan. 14, 2020. With a new PC you will not have a legal Windows/7 license apart from the fact that with the newer hardware Windows/7 may not work at all. There was an MS article stating that only windows/10 would officially support all the newer stuff like that Intel Skylake's architecture provides. Of course I guess all this means I should really dump DOS now |
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Post by cmk on Feb 20, 2016 13:55:30 GMT 7
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Post by rubl on Feb 20, 2016 16:33:13 GMT 7
To be more clear:
- No DOS VGA driver can handle onboard HDMI. A HDMI-VGA cable will not solve this problem. If ATAPI like interfaces disappear, no DOS drivers for successors. Etc., etc.
- Microsoft has stated that new HW interfaces will only be supported in Windows/10
So, the new PCs as mentioned in the article may be Windows/10 and any version of LINUX only.
PS good the lazada links are 'example only'. They give a '404'
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Post by cmk on Feb 20, 2016 19:14:25 GMT 7
To be more clear: - No DOS VGA driver can handle onboard HDMI. A HDMI-VGA cable will not solve this problem. If ATAPI like interfaces disappear, no DOS drivers for successors. Etc., etc. - Microsoft has stated that new HW interfaces will only be supported in Windows/10 So, the new PCs as mentioned in the article may be Windows/10 and any version of LINUX only. PS good the lazada links are 'example only'. They give a '404' Use DOS to boot the computer then install linux or Win 7 or 8. The links were for the names of the computers and win7. You go to Lazada and search for those names...... Put the system disk in the computer and turn it on and everything will be OK. Same with Linux. What kind of computer has only HDMI? That would be a new one on me. Do you know anything about computers? I run win7 and have had no problem using any kind of software or hardware except bluetooth 4. Win 7 only supports bluetooth 2. Bluetooth 4 still works but I keep getting an error message. No big deal. I bought a bluetooth 2 dongle. My computer is new last year and has vga, dvi and display port. I convert to hdmi with an adapter no problem. You don't have to use win10 unless you want to. |
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Post by rubl on Feb 20, 2016 20:48:28 GMT 7
Tjeez, when I say DOS I mean DOS, like in DOS 6.22, not the stuff shipped with windows. Mind you, technically lots of possibilities. There's a commercial product for support of USB 3.0 with xHCI, EHCI, UHCI and OHCI controllers. Some BIOS-es also allow setting of IDE emulation mode on the SATA controller. Now looking for a solution around lack of VGA  |
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Post by cmk on Feb 20, 2016 22:56:24 GMT 7
Tjeez, when I say DOS I mean DOS, like in DOS 6.22, not the stuff shipped with windows. Mind you, technically lots of possibilities. There's a commercial product for support of USB 3.0 with xHCI, EHCI, UHCI and OHCI controllers. Some BIOS-es also allow setting of IDE emulation mode on the SATA controller. Now looking for a solution around lack of VGA I don't know what you mean. A computer will have a variety of ways to connect with the monitor and no monitors are hdmi only (that I know of). DVI? USB 3 is not software. The new computers come with USB3 and Dos and you buy whatever operating system you want. I just bought a new monitor and it has HDMI and Display port. DVI will convert into either of those. I've never seen a computer that didn't have DVI. DOS isn't shipped with windows it's shipped with the computer. I think Win 7 is a more stable operating system than win 10. But I've never used 10 only going by what others have told me. My windows experience score is with win 7 is 7.8 7.8 7.4 7.4 5.9 (scale 1.0 7.9) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 1:11:35 GMT 7
7.9 on all except disk for me, not bought an SSD yet -------------- I thought you was a hardcore UNIX bloke Rubl  |
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Post by rubl on Feb 21, 2016 10:54:23 GMT 7
"A computer will have a variety of ways to connect with the monitor and no monitors are hdmi only (that I know of). DVI? Being able to physically connect two things doesn't mean they'll work together, nor that you'll have a piece of software to make them work together. If a PC has an Intel integrated graphics chip without the old VGA programmable interface then you need a DOS driver if you want to run DOS. For some old fashioned DOS VGA programming www.brackeen.com/vga/ |
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Post by rubl on Feb 21, 2016 11:01:35 GMT 7
7.9 on all except disk for me, not bought an SSD yet -------------- I thought you was a hardcore UNIX bloke Rubl With SSD's it's like 'hard core' is back again in smaller form. Most of my IT work involved UNIX, but my 'terminal' can be on a Windows PC, X-terminal, or any emulation. Even a small client/server program can do and help to avoid such bothersome things like needing to log in |
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Post by Slade Wilson on Feb 21, 2016 12:05:01 GMT 7
Stuff it. I'll take my cheap run of the mill Toshiba and when it dies a sorry death, another run of the mill Toshiba will do.
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Post by siampolee on Feb 21, 2016 12:41:43 GMT 7
My old trusty laptop is shown below, like me, a tad ancient, no lightweight but keeps a chugging along.   |
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Post by cmk on Feb 21, 2016 14:13:18 GMT 7
"A computer will have a variety of ways to connect with the monitor and no monitors are hdmi only (that I know of). DVI? Being able to physically connect two things doesn't mean they'll work together, nor that you'll have a piece of software to make them work together. If a PC has an Intel integrated graphics chip without the old VGA programmable interface then you need a DOS driver if you want to run DOS. For some old fashioned DOS VGA programming www.brackeen.com/vga/I thought you were asking about desktop computers running win 10 as opposed to other operating systems. Win 7 does fine with a new computer and new monitor. Dell Hp or whatever. A new computer in Thailand comes with DOS and you add the operating system. |
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Post by rubl on Feb 21, 2016 14:22:36 GMT 7
"A computer will have a variety of ways to connect with the monitor and no monitors are hdmi only (that I know of). DVI? Being able to physically connect two things doesn't mean they'll work together, nor that you'll have a piece of software to make them work together. If a PC has an Intel integrated graphics chip without the old VGA programmable interface then you need a DOS driver if you want to run DOS. For some old fashioned DOS VGA programming www.brackeen.com/vga/I thought you were asking about desktop computers running win 10 as opposed to other operating systems. Win 7 does fine with a new computer and new monitor. Dell Hp or whatever. A new computer in Thailand comes with DOS and you add the operating system. I'm not asking anything. I'm just remarking that soon the new PCs will only run Windows/10 or a LINUX version. BTW the latest PC may run 'freedos' ( freedos.org ), not MSDOS |
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