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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 5:47:47 GMT 7
The Thai version of the charter was online for many months already. People on another site have been trying to convince me that the Thai demanded a referendum. Does that mean the Thai demanded a referendum to vote on something they didn't want to read ? They should never have given the farmers the vote. That's what Bangkokians are thinking today. Let them eat rice cake ! To be honest, I think if the average Thai knew exactly what they were actually voting for the bottom line would be - "What's in it for me" ? Which to me explains the success over the years of a certain family party holding on to power for so long. $$$$$$$$$$$$$ are the bottom line, nothing to do with democracy or being ruled by the junta.
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Post by Mosha on Aug 8, 2016 5:57:18 GMT 7
My wife has no interest in FB or whatever. An hand phone is something to make telephone calls on Her only source of info has been the PM's sanctioned ones. She thinks voting yes will rid her of Pryuth. I think next year she will be angry
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Post by Mosha on Aug 8, 2016 6:20:31 GMT 7
"I asked my dad and he told me to vote no" Probably the same on the other side. 58% turnout.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 6:49:56 GMT 7
Without even looking I bet the other forum is having a field day with this story. tbthailand and his fellow boiler room trolls will be working overtime.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 9:46:13 GMT 7
Without even looking I bet the other forum is having a field day with this story. tbthailand and his fellow boiler room trolls will be working overtime. They spend way too much time on Thai politics over there. I got into a fight with Amnesty on another platform and was asked by a news platform to explain myself. I pointed out that democracy evolved in the UK, and that it's a relatively new concept. And it's still changing with the move to reduce the voting age down to 18 being relatively recent, with 16 now on the cards too. Holding Thailand's feet to gold standard democratic fire is a tad unfair. Democracy has to develop hand in hand withe the rule of law. If you gave me a choice, I'd live in a rule of law society under strong arm rule, rather than a nominal democracy with a wild west attitude to the law. It's not we westerners that pay the price for the lack of consistent rule of law in Thailand - it's the Thai Ordinary Joe. We can move, they are stuck in an often unfair society. What did the news source say? " we accept your view, butvwe cannot be seen to endorse it." Window dressing and all that.
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Post by Mosha on Aug 8, 2016 9:54:05 GMT 7
Head banging tree time. What was the other question? IDK, I could not read it, so I answered both questions the same.
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Post by buhi on Aug 8, 2016 10:30:59 GMT 7
I would have voted no, on principle, but am hoping the yes will move Thailand forward to a sort of democracy. It cannot happen over night and we all know of corruption in places of influence. I never asked my wife to proxy vote, would not, but I know she voted no, on principle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2016 10:33:59 GMT 7
Without even looking I bet the other forum is having a field day with this story. tbthailand and his fellow boiler room trolls will be working overtime. They spend way too much time on Thai politics over there. I got into a fight with Amnesty on another platform and was asked by a news platform to explain myself. I pointed out that democracy evolved in the UK, and that it's a relatively new concept. And it's still changing with the move to reduce the voting age down to 18 being relatively recent, with 16 now on the cards too. Holding Thailand's feet to gold standard democratic fire is a tad unfair. Democracy has to develop hand in hand withe the rule of law. If you gave me a choice, I'd live in a rule of law society under strong arm rule, rather than a nominal democracy with a wild west attitude to the law. It's not we westerners that pay the price for the lack of consistent rule of law in Thailand - it's the Thai Ordinary Joe. We can move, they are stuck in an often unfair society. What did the news source say? " we accept your view, butvwe cannot be seen to endorse it." Window dressing and all that. Very easy to get into arguments when playing with this volatile subject blether, which is one reason I like the BM as it is not rife with trolls and boiler room propaganda merchants waving certain coloured flags. It is easy to see why they spend so much time arguing Thai politics over at TVF, it's because there are so many facets they can exploit and create clicks with, which is why that grubby little orc Webfact is continually posting links to anything related to internal politics. The idiots who troll with the modus operandi of pushing for Democratic rule make me laugh, like it's a magic wand that makes everything all better. Had to laugh at the line - ................."we cannot be seen to endorse it".................... They can bloody well be seen to endorse all sorts of other shit over there, that are againt forum rules as well as Thai law, like constantly attacking Thai people, their culture, and their religion/faith.
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Post by bowie on Aug 8, 2016 10:39:07 GMT 7
I would have voted no, on principle, but am hoping the yes will move Thailand forward to a sort of democracy. It cannot happen over night and we all know of corruption in places of influence. I never asked my wife to proxy vote, would not, but I know she voted no, on principle. She would not listen to you anyway, only listens to family, which is fortunate as they are radical too.
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Post by onionluke on Aug 8, 2016 11:47:51 GMT 7
It appears that all the good work over the decades, done for the common man, is under attack by the bastards. Yes the bastards. World wide class war, if you get my drift. Back on topic, i did like the photo of P C Ota sticking his vote ontae heez <duck>in forehead.
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Post by rubl on Aug 8, 2016 22:50:01 GMT 7
Just looking at the BangkokPost site I saw a picture with nice graphics showing the results after 94% of votes cast counted yesterday.
61.4% or 15,562,027 in favour.
With the 2011 results of 48% of valid votes (15,744,190) being a clear majority and a full mandate, I guess we can say the same now. PM Prayut can move on and have the general elections prepared for next year.
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Post by rubl on Aug 9, 2016 5:50:04 GMT 7
Not everyone has online access Everyone seems to have facebook, line, etc., etc. The really important things in life It would seem that some voters may have been a bit confused or overly enthusiastic . When their Isan Darling wrote on her facebook page to plea 'please go vote', there was a resounding response "Yes, we go vote, yes yes we vote"
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 6:01:17 GMT 7
Everyone seems to have facebook, line, etc., etc. The really important things in life It would seem that some voters may have been a bit confused or overly enthusiastic . When their Isan Darling wrote on her facebook page to plea 'please go vote', there was a resounding response "Yes, we go vote, yes yes we vote" My wife's family in Surin never had to be told to go and vote, they were the first ones there. Said it was a 'lucrative" outing.
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