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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 5, 2017 10:58:00 GMT 7
SET50 Options trading (and to a lesser extent SET50 futures trading) has been a hobby of mine for the last few years.
In each of the last 4 calendar years I've made over 50% trading SET50 options and futures, with 2016 being the best so far at +62%. In contrast the SET50 index (excluding divs) was up 19.6% in 2016 and showed negative returns in 2013 and 2015. So it can be a useful string to your bow in addition to long term long only investing in difficult years
With a bit more time on my hands this year I thought I'd start taking it a bit more seriously, and with BM looking like a decent place to collect relevant info, thought I'd start a thread.
It's definitely not something to just dive into unprepared and the leveraged nature carries higher risks than just equity trading. Additionally SET50 options liquidity can disappear at times so there's the risk of not being able to exit at decent prices sometimes. Futures are more liquid but very occasionally liquidity also disappears.
But despite the high risks: As the market in Thailand isn't that professional compared to futures and options trading in say UK, US, there's a nice space for small retail investors to make money in my view if they understand what they're doing.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 5, 2017 11:08:05 GMT 7
Thailand Futures Exchange (TFEX) has a few knowledge resources available. There's a small section on foreign investors. This highlights some of the things I like about SET50 options (and futures) trading as a foreigner in Thailand: There are no trading restrictions on foreign investors in TFEX, nor is there any necessity for special or qualified foreign institutional investor’s accounts.For convenience and efficiency, TFEX allows brokers to offer direct market access (DMA) to clients. DMA permits investors to connect their trading applications with a broker’s front-end system, thus enabling a client’s order to be routed automatically through the broker and on to the Exchange without being handled manuallyFletch's Note: = simply put you can just trade online without needing to interact personally with your broker or any other person. (Once your account is set up). I occasionally speak to my account manager for admin type stuff such as requesting limit increases, adding funds etc Private individuals are exempted from capital gains tax for every product traded on TFEX. Fletch's Note: That's within Thailand. Your own nationality, residence and country may affect tax you need to pay in another country, although Thailand does have DTAs in place - As a Brit resident in Thailand (non-resident in UK for tax). It means all profits are tax free for me www.tfex.co.th/en/education/knowledge_InvGuide.html
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 5, 2017 11:47:10 GMT 7
Historical underlying SET50 index data can be found on the Stock Exchange of Thailand (SET) website, under their market statistics section www.set.or.th/en/market/market_statistics.html(Fletch's note: your Excel may give an error message about trusted data / formats etc etc. There's no issue with it just click OK. Monthly data goes back to August 1995 for SET50 index as it's only 20 or so years as an index. The regular SET index goes back to 1975 I convert this into Excel and play around with it for various purposes, such as what is the max loss over 1 month, 3 months, 6 months etc of the index. What is the standard deviation etc. A caveat here being these are month end only points in time. Daily rather than month end would be better. Intra day high and lows might be useful too etc etc. But they give an idea. {Another thing I use them for is from time to time looking if I invested in and held a Thai equity fund for 5 years or 10 years, what % of times would I lose money and what % make money} Example: Attachment Deleted
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 5, 2017 12:31:53 GMT 7
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 10, 2017 11:07:56 GMT 7
Settrade.com can be another useful website for basic info. For futures for example it lists the recent reports on futures by various brokers, which saves going to the individual brokers sites The quality of the reports isn't fantastic but can be worth a quick read www.settrade.com/C17_ResearchList.jsp?keyword=FUTURES&select_period=180Settrade.com website can also be useful for trading individual stocks, and there you can look up things like consensus broker forecasts on a particular stock. There's also a reasnable amount of other info So of the official websites: www.tfex.co.th/Is the official website of TFEX and covers futures and options www.set.or.th/Is the official website of the stock exchange of Thailand and covers the SET, various indices, individual shares, etc as well as some info on futures/options. It can also be good for historic data www.settrade.comIs run by Settrade and has various info. Closely in connection with the trading exchanges
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