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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 10, 2017 11:23:24 GMT 7
I've been a fan of Singapore REITs in the last few years. I hold a portfolio of around 15 with a tax free dividend yield of over 7% in SGD. In addition I also hold the TMB Property Income Plus fund in Thailand which has exposure to several Singapore REITs The attraction has been the yield + some capital growth + SGD + property I don't expect much capital growth (if any and perhaps even negative) in 2017, but 7% tax free mainly from dividends should be achievable. Also I'm less concerned about the weaker SGD risk than the article, as there's a very good chance that if SGD weakens, THB will be going in the same direction, and long term SGD stacks up pretty well vs THB. What counts for me with these is the income to fund my lifestyle in Thailand which is in THB. The article below is quite basic but highlights a few of the key risks for 2017 =========================================== Downward pressure: 4 factors that may stifle a Singapore REIT rally in 2017‘Buy’ recommendations for Singapore REITs have dominated headlines in recent months, and the sector generally outperformed the broader market index in 2016, including defensive counterparts such as utilities, and telco stocks. However before you decide to significantly increase your holdings of Singapore REITs, there are some developments on the horizon for 2017 that you may wish to consider before vesting. Mergers and acquisitions .... Rising Interest rates ... Weaker SGD .... New IPOs www.reitsweek.com/2017/01/downward-pressure-4-factors-that-may-stifle-a-singapore-reit-rally-in-2017.html
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 10, 2017 14:08:31 GMT 7
On the other hand.... ============================ OCBC reiterates bullish stance on Singapore REITs BY RIDZWAN RAHMAT ON JANUARY 5, 2017 ANALYSIS, SINGAPORE REITS OCBC Investment Research has maintained an ‘Overweight’ rating on the broader Singapore REITs sector, noting steps that have been taken by a number of industrial REITs to bolster their respective property portfolios. The bank highlighted proposed acquisitions by Ascendas REIT and Mapletree Logistics Trust, both of which have announced separate acquisitions in Singapore’s Science Park, and in the state of Victoria, Australia respectively. Ascendas REIT’s acquisition of 12,14, and 16 Science Park Drive for SGD420 million (USD292 million) is expected to generate a net property income (NPI) yield of approximately 6.0% post-acquisition costs in the first year of ownership, and increase its weighted average lease expiry (WALE) from 3.7 years to 4.4 years, said the bank. Meanwhile Mapletree Logistics Trust’s acquisition of four properties downunder for AUD142.2 million (USD103 million) is estimated to generate an estimated initial NPI yield is of 7.6%, it added. OCBC has also highlighted Ascendas REIT and Frasers Logistics & Industrial Trust as its prefered picks, both of which have been given a ‘Buy’ rating by the bank, with fair value estimates of SGD2.67 and SGD1.10 respectively. Units of Ascendas REIT and Frasers Logistics & Industrial Trust are currently listed on the Singapore Exchange at SGD2.33, and SGD0.945 respectively. contd. www.reitsweek.com/2017/01/ocbc-reiterates-bullish-stance-on-singapore-reits.html
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 10, 2017 19:14:46 GMT 7
Until October 2016, there were no Asian REIT ETFs around. TMB's unit trust - TMB Property Income Plus Fund which was originally around half Thai REITs/ property funds and half Singapore REITs was launched about 2.5 years back, and somewhat unique in Thailand to have a fund of REITs. As a unit trust though its charges are higher than an ETF. Phillips capital management then launched the first Asian REIT ETF in October 2016, traded on the Singapore exchange SGX in either SGD or USD. The underlying benchmark it is linked to has a yield of around 4.8%. It doesn't simply follow the index and is a smart beta fund. They focus on the largest dividend paying REITs in Asia I dipped my toes in with a small amount towards the end of last year. Main reasons: - I expect a yield of around 5% on it. That's lower than available on Singapore and Thai REITs though - but does allow some diversification into other Asia areas. - it focuses on the largest dividend paying REITs in Asia (by amount, not per unit or % yield) so should exceed the index in terms of yield. Yield is only part of any investment story though. - charges at 0.5% p.a. are not unreasonable for such a specialised fund and lower cost than unit trusts - as an ETF can be traded simply like shares I'm not totally convinced by it to be honest, so just dipped my toes in to see how it fares. I like to do this with investments of interest rather than just sit on the sidelines and follow. I find I take it more seriously. The yield is lower than what I usually look for on REITS, but it does lend some diversification. As I start following it's progress it may also throw up other ideas. They've set out 5 reasons to invest on their website: - attractive and stable dividend income - high quality REITs in Asia ex-Japan - Liquidity and transparency - Low cost - Reputable index provider The liquidity and transparency aspect remains to be seen in my view, and what is written is just theory so far. I've seen ETFs and investment trusts in the past where its difficult to deal in decent sizes and at decent prices. Also not sure I like the idea of its smart beta in this case - ranking according to total dividends paid. Seems a bit crude to look at total dividends and while skewing to the bigger REITs and bigger dividend payers, these may not always be the most efficient ones. May be of interest to others. At this stage I wouldn't put large amounts in it though and would like to see its actual track record a while first. If it can consistently yield around 5% in SGD with a little capital growth and not too much volatility I'll be quite happy with it medium term. Better than having it on SGD cash deposit earning 0.X % a year. Similar downward pressures as mentioned above apply though. Phillip SGX APAC Dividend Leaders REIT ETF www.phillipfunds.com/home/etfs
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 11, 2017 11:16:35 GMT 7
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jan 11, 2017 11:23:41 GMT 7
SGX Can also be a useful start for looking up basic info on individual REITs, with overview info, news summary, financials, etc, as well as key indicators like price consensus, buy/hold/sell volatility. To be taken with a pinch of salt, but reasonable snapshots e.g.Ascendas REIT/ AREIT (A17U) www.sgx.com/wps/portal/sgxweb/home/company_disclosure/stockfacts?code=A17UOne annoying thing about SGX though is the use of its own trading tickers which aren't always intuitive or easy to remember. For SGX it's usually 3 or 4 digits, in this case A17U. While the first digit is OK the rest are annoying if you're searching quickly from memory or doing a quick look up/ search on prices or inputing a trade etc Bloomberg uses AREIT as the ticker - easy to remember - as does most other people.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 19, 2017 20:54:09 GMT 7
Looks like a second Asia REIT ETF is to be launched Nikko AM-Straits Trading Asia ex Japan REIT ETF and this article compares it to the Phillip etf above www.reitsweek.com/2017/03/singapore-reit-etfs-nikko-am-straits-trading-and-philips-sgx-apac-reit-etfs-compared.htmlThe article comes out in favour of the Phillip The main thing it would be of interest to me for would be a bit more diversification in the REIT sector. Dividend yield at 5% is below what I usually look for on REITS so not that enticing even though tax free. Charges at 0.5% are not too bad for a specialize ETF. If I compare to my own portfolio of SGD REITS it yields an average of about 7.25% and there is no annual charge for me holding the individual REITs in my broker account Both ETFs strike me as more starting points for building a small portfolio for someone who doesn't want to put the time in on individual REITS
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 24, 2017 12:08:59 GMT 7
====================================================================== OCBC downgrades Singapore REITs sector to ‘Neutral’ given tough leasing environmentOCBC Investment Research has downgraded the overall Singapore REITs sector from ‘Overweight’ to ‘Neutral’, citing the country's challenging lease environment, and prevailing macroeconomic conditions globally. In an investment report issued on 23 March, OCBC pointed to key economic data coming out of the United States, which suggest the likelihood of faster-than-expected interest rate hikes by the Federal Reserve. As such, OCBC projects softer DPU growth for Singapore REITs in FY2017. “While we believe Singapore REITs still warrant a strategic position in investors’ portfolio in light of uncertainties surrounding the geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, valuations are no longer compelling, in our view”, said the bank, adding that it recommends investors to be selective. OCBC listed Keppel DC REIT, Frasers Centrepoint Trust, and Frasers Logistics & Industrial Trust as its preferred list of REITs that still feature ‘Buy’ recommendations from the bank, despite the downgrade on the sector as a whole. Fair value estimates for the counters have been listed as SGD1.39, SGD2.28 and SGD1.08 respectively. www.reitsweek.com/2017/03/ocbc-downgrades-singapore-reits-sector-to-neutral-given-tough-leasing-environment.html
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Post by AyG on Mar 24, 2017 12:48:38 GMT 7
Phillips capital management then launched the first Asian REIT ETF in October 2016, traded on the Singapore exchange SGX in either SGD or USD. I haven't looked into this in depth, but for an "Asian" ETF it invests a hell of a lot in Australia - 7 of the top 10 holdings (59%) are Australian. Last time I checked Australia wasn't in Asia. A couple of (somewhat dated) background articles worth a read: fifthperson.com/should-you-invest-in-the-sgx-apac-reit-etf-here-are-5-things-you-need-to-consider/www.fool.sg/2016/10/17/12-things-investors-should-know-about-the-first-and-only-asia-pacific-reit-etf/IPO fact sheet (USD class) at www.phillipfunds.com/uploads/funds_file/Phillip_SGX_APAC_Dividend_Leaders_REIT_ETF_Product_Info_Sheet_ipo_USD.pdfProduct appears to be unhedged, giving a lot of exposure to AUD. To be honest, I'm really not sure where this would fit into my, or anyone else's, portfolio (except, possibly, if you're a Fosters-drinking, cork-hat wearing, kangaroo-riding, vegemite-loving cobber called Bruce, or Dame Edna).
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 24, 2017 15:02:52 GMT 7
Not sure why you're particularly concerned about the AUD aspect. If you look at the investment trusts you hold, most will be unhedged versus GBP and definitely vs THB. So if you invest in US equities you have USD risk, invest in European you get Euro, EMs various EM currencies and so on. That's life in a modern world. Not necessarily a bad thing either to be diversified across currencies as an expat. As an expat I really couldn't accept all my assets in GBP anyway. For someone living in Thailand AUD has also been much more stable against THB than GBP over the last decade or so. Not to mention it would have surely have been nicer for someone than the large GBP vs THB hits many UK centric / GBP investors took last year To be honest I dislike currency hedged collective investments and would prefer unhedged. If the y hedged it would be even less interest to me. Hedging adds extra cost and often those hedging get it wrong anyway if taking views. The main benefit I would see is diversification and/or for someone starting out/ not wanting to pick individual REITs themselves. Across asset class, geographies and yes even currencies. As mentioned the div yield for me at 5% is lower than I aim for and if I pick my own REITs so there's no management fee etc. So never going to hold a large place in my portfolio either, but I can see a few pluses.
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Post by AyG on Mar 24, 2017 15:23:42 GMT 7
Not sure why you're particularly concerned about the AUD aspect. If you look at the investment trusts you hold, most will be unhedged versus GBP and definitely vs THB. The concern is concentration of currency risk. Say one has 20 holdings. Perhaps 2 of these (10%) will be in property. And if one of these is heavily invested in Australia, that's a significant exposure (roughly 3%). Broadly speaking, from a currency perspective I prefer (a) exposure to Thailand, (b) exposure to SE Asia (i.e. neighbouring economies), or (c) globally diversified exposure (average currency risk). Significant exposure to AUD doesn't fit my personal approach. (I'd also add that I previously invested in Aviva Asia-Pacific Property fund, which was heavily invested in Australia. Not a happy story. The fund closed, and now, a couple of years later, I'm still waiting to get some of my money back, so perhaps I'm a little biased.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 15:44:35 GMT 7
....................."To be honest, I'm really not sure where this would fit into my, or anyone else's, portfolio (except, possibly, if you're a Fosters-drinking, cork-hat wearing, kangaroo-riding, vegemite-loving cobber called Bruce, or Dame Edna)"................................ Or a little baht bus queen !
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 27, 2017 12:41:55 GMT 7
The following site has some useful basic info by individual REIT. Gives an overview of the basic numbers, and the analysts say tab on any REIT shows all the recent analyst reports by different houses sginvestors.io/sgx/reit-listing/alpha
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Post by AyG on Mar 27, 2017 13:16:52 GMT 7
The following site has some useful basic info by individual REIT. Gives an overview of the basic numbers, and the analysts say tab on any REIT shows all the recent analyst reports by different houses sginvestors.io/sgx/reit-listing/alphaVery helpful. Thanks. I was able to reidentify a REIT I'd researched a couple of years ago (Mapletree Logistic Trust), and then completely forgot the name. Couldn't relocate it. By any chance is this one you've looked into and/or own? It would be good to hear your opinion. This would potentially be my first direct purchase of Singapore stock.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 27, 2017 14:41:33 GMT 7
Yes I've a small holding in Mapletree Logistics. Towards the end of last year I made a conscious decision to increase the size and number of holdings of my REITs portfolio, looking mainly for the income stream/divs, property exposure and SGD. This was one I included. As a brand, like Frasers, Mapletree seem to operate a handful of decent REITs and this being one. Quite active on acquisitions. Quarterly DPUs should be able to support and perhaps increase as acquisitions come online. It's a bit more expensive than when I first bought some (up around 6% or so), but it's basic ratios are generally still in the ball park I look for before looking further. -P/E forward and current just below 15. I sort of like 15 for P/Es knowing that they pay out most of the profits/earnings, so it supports a div of 6% - 7% -Div is just under 7% (just over 7% when I bought) -Price/book just over 1 (under 1 one I bought). Has to have a good reason for me to be (significantly) above 1. Many are traded below 1. If you do a quick search on Reitsweek, you also get a flavour of what they've been up to from the short articles www.reitsweek.com/?s=mapletree+logisticsin addition to the various analyst reports on sginvestors.io
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Post by Fletchsmile on Apr 5, 2017 14:48:19 GMT 7
DBS released a research paper a week or so back on the Mapletree REITs. research.sginvestors.io/2017/03/mapletree-group-of-reits-dbs-research-2017-03-30.htmlI have small holdings in 3 of the 4, and like the different areas they are in (retail, industrial, logistics), which I think complement each other if intending to hold long term, which I do. I don't hold MCT - Low div yield, and generally unattractive. The wide range of opinions and price targets on MLT, look strange to me. 0.89 - 1.28. There's 3 months difference on the reports, but even so. It's had a good run this year, so is more of a hold for me than add as an existing holding, but I'll look for dips to add more. sginvestors.io/sgx/reit/m44u-mapletree-log-tr/target-price
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