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Post by bunny boiler on Sept 14, 2017 21:07:52 GMT 7
It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what. Is omitting the truth a lie? Is honesty, the virtue, all that's cracked up to be? Are little white lies still lies? Have you ever told a load of bollocks to 'get off'? Sure you may say this is all bullshit. Probably is. Was giving House MD the series a spin and that struck a chord, anyone who says they never lie or has never lied is a liar. So what porkers have you told and to whom? The whom is important also. Back earlier this year I hit a guardrail in the ride at high speed, completely my fault too, was looking for something in the glovebox and baaaam. So I told the insurance company there was a guy behind me flashing his beams and that made me do it. They paid up. Curious that as the fukkers are about as tight as a fish's arse, when some kid threw a basketball and smashed my windscreen no go to claim. ....then there was the time I impersonated someone to get into a place so I could talk to random strangers, not exactly a lie because initially he helped me do it. Such is life.  |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 14, 2017 21:18:12 GMT 7
Met the old biddy up the road the other week, she has cancer of the spine, all her hair has fallen out and she walks with a stick.
Wais were exchanged then she grabbed my hands, we exchanged some words, I told her she was as beautiful as before, suay muan derm.
She knows I was BSing her, I know she knew, who cares.
My mrs comes out the hairdresser, her hair looks a effin mess, I tell her she looks beautiful, anything for a quiet life.
Face, it kills them every time, local food shop opens up, usual bs, aroi mai? aroi krap, actually, your food tastes like crap and I wont be back, 4 weeks later the owner cant understand why he has no customers when everyone has been telling him his food is aroi dee tee sut.
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Post by bunny boiler on Sept 14, 2017 21:34:13 GMT 7
Coming from a straight shooter, that's quite an admission but I get it, same here, peace is preferable to p*sing folks off with the truth. The cold hard truth is a bitter pill for the delusionals to swallow, there was a fellow I worked with, though he was gawd's gift to admin, should've had the golden handshake years ago, anyway here we were in Singapore, presentation with the big wigs and off he starts thanking all the staff in KL and saying how much he has enjoyed the hospitality so far...poor fellow fell into a vat of JW the night before and couldn't remember where he was. A few mouths fell open and Singaporeans don't take stuff like that gaffe lightly. I smiled and walked away, covered for the fool one too many times. Now he was a full blown alkie this guy, nothing to do with age or illness so eff him, told the boss it's like this and next day he was on the plane back trying to lie himself out of the fix  . |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 14, 2017 21:46:35 GMT 7
Coming from a straight shooter, that's quite an admission but I get it, same here, peace is preferable to p*sing folks off with the truth. The cold hard truth is a bitter pill for the delusionals to swallow, there was a fellow I worked with, though he was gawd's gift to admin, should've had the golden handshake years ago, anyway here we were in Singapore, presentation with the big wigs and off he starts thanking all the staff in KL and saying how much he has enjoyed the hospitality so far...poor fellow fell into a vat of JW the night before and couldn't remember where he was. A few mouths fell open and Singaporeans don't take stuff like that gaffe lightly. I smiled and walked away, covered for the fool one too many times. Now he was a full blown alkie this guy, nothing to do with age or illness so eff him, told the boss it's like this and next day he was on the plane back trying to lie himself out of the fix . Not just Singapore, nothing will ever be said to your face, but it has been noted, truth be told, you may as well just pack up and go home, you are on borrowed time anyway. Years ago the customer told me to write up a letter of warning to a contractor from another company. I handed the yank the letter, he went apeshit, that kant cant do that, blah blah blah, if he has something to say, best he says it to my face. I asked him, how long have you been here? and you still dont get it. He didnt last long. A personal favourite, "I dont need this effin job", famous last words, I had to walk out of the office, it was embarrassing watching a grown man on his knees begging and pleading for another chance. Take note contractors, these people can usually speak excellent english and its nuances, next time you are gobbing off in the snack bar, someone somewhere will be listening and making a mental note, of course, nothing will be said to your face. Conflict avoidance, but your card has been marked. |
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Post by bunny boiler on Sept 14, 2017 21:52:59 GMT 7
Never to your face, ever, it's always what's not said than what's said that matters.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 14, 2017 22:10:38 GMT 7
^^^ body language.
Years ago was stood outside on the stairwell smoking and drinking coffee, a mixed bunch, brits and yanks and the customer watching the a/c take off.
Up the stairs he comes, must have weighed about 300 pounds, company clothing about 3 sizes too small, look a like a sack of spuds tied in the middle.
Wheres the xxxx office, round the corner buddy, great he says, looking for some kant called YYYY, dont know who this prick thinks he is.
At the same moment about 5 contractors walk backwards (distancing themselves), thats him stood right there buddy.
The kant called YYYY, asked him if he wanted a window or aisle seat.
He was gone, they never learn.
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Post by rubl on Sept 15, 2017 22:25:05 GMT 7
Lies, consistent liar?
""They are debating veracity with everything but brickbats," Bulak informed, somewhat as if compelled to mention an obscene subject. "You are a consistent liar. Therefore, the statement itself must be a lie. Therefore, you are not a consistent liar. The conclusion is that you can be a consistent liar only by not being a consistent liar. Yet you cannot be a consistent liar without being consistent."
"That's bad," Hillder sympathized.
"It's worse," Bulak gave back. "Because if you really are a consistent liar—which logically is a self-contradiction—none of your evidence is worth a sack of rotten muna-seeds. If you have told us the truth all the way through then your final claim to be a liar must also be true. But, if you are a consistent liar, then none of it is true.
"Take a deep breath," advised Hillder.
"But," continued Bulak, taking a deep breath, "since that final statement must be untrue all the rest may be true." A wild look came into his eyes and he started waving his arms around. "But the claim to consistency makes it impossible for any statement to be assessed as either true or untrue because, on analysis, there is an unresolvable contradiction that—"
Diabologic by Eric Frank Russell
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Post by bunny boiler on Sept 16, 2017 14:47:09 GMT 7
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 16, 2017 15:20:45 GMT 7
Coming from a straight shooter, that's quite an admission but I get it, same here, peace is preferable to p*sing folks off with the truth. The cold hard truth is a bitter pill for the delusionals to swallow, there was a fellow I worked with, though he was gawd's gift to admin, should've had the golden handshake years ago, anyway here we were in Singapore, presentation with the big wigs and off he starts thanking all the staff in KL and saying how much he has enjoyed the hospitality so far...poor fellow fell into a vat of JW the night before and couldn't remember where he was. A few mouths fell open and Singaporeans don't take stuff like that gaffe lightly. I smiled and walked away, covered for the fool one too many times. Now he was a full blown alkie this guy, nothing to do with age or illness so eff him, told the boss it's like this and next day he was on the plane back trying to lie himself out of the fix . Not just Singapore, nothing will ever be said to your face, but it has been noted, truth be told, you may as well just pack up and go home, you are on borrowed time anyway. Years ago the customer told me to write up a letter of warning to a contractor from another company. I handed the yank the letter, he went apeshit, that kant cant do that, blah blah blah, if he has something to say, best he says it to my face. I asked him, how long have you been here? and you still dont get it. He didnt last long. A personal favourite, "I dont need this effin job", famous last words, I had to walk out of the office, it was embarrassing watching a grown man on his knees begging and pleading for another chance. Take note contractors, these people can usually speak excellent english and its nuances, next time you are gobbing off in the snack bar, someone somewhere will be listening and making a mental note, of course, nothing will be said to your face. Conflict avoidance, but your card has been marked. Same rules apply in the UK. When the gossip starts smokie gives his widest smile and nips off to the loo. Not interested....you can have my smile all day long just sign the timesheet on Friday. |
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Post by rubl on Sept 16, 2017 15:51:24 GMT 7
The problem with hearing too much is the possibility of forgetting what you know and what you don't know.
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Post by me on Sept 16, 2017 16:53:22 GMT 7
The problem with hearing too much is the possibility of forgetting what you know and what you don't know. Or forgetting what you said and have the other remember........ |
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Post by rubl on Sept 16, 2017 17:54:51 GMT 7
The problem with hearing too much is the possibility of forgetting what you know and what you don't know. Or forgetting what you said and have the other remember........ I'm saying nothing, I'm more of a listening type. Mostly sticking to the truth anyway. Out of high moral standards of course apart from the fact that that is so much simpler, no extra effort required to remember 'what did I say last time'. |
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