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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 6, 2015 13:08:14 GMT 7
Should we be surprised? ======================================================================================== Low IQ levels a wake-up call for ThailandBangkok Post 6 Jun 2015 WRITER: DANIEL MAXWELL & PEERASIT KAMNUANSILPA On May 27, the Ministry of Public Health announced the IQ survey results, indicating that the IQ of Grade 1 students has dropped from 94 in 2011 to 93. The international standard is 100. It is highly possible that Thailand’s education system is harming students’ IQs. While the IQ of pre-school students is acceptable, IQ drops as primary schooling commences, suggesting a need for greater nurturing at schools. Furthermore, the IQ of students in rural areas is considerably lower, at just 89. This difference persists at university. While studies have found the IQ of Bangkok university students averages 115, the IQ of provincial university students is 5-8 points lower. Alarmingly, the low IQ levels in the recent survey confirm continuing high levels of intellectual disability — IQ levels lower than 70 — also termed "mildly impaired or delayed". The average global percentage of such students is 2%. However, the previous, 2011 survey found 6.5% of Thai students scored in this range. The recent results suggest intellectual disability in some rural areas could now be up to 10%. The regional disparities in IQ and intellectual disability are further reinforced by results from educational assessments such as the Ordinary National Education Test (O-Net) scores and the Programme for International Student Assessment (Pisa) scores. Despite being of dubious reliability, O-Net does illustrate provincial differences. In the 2010 Thai language O-Net, no Northeast province reached the top half of the national results. The 2009 Pisa results were similar, with the Lower Northeast scoring the lowest for reading, mathematics and science, while Bangkok scored highest. Thailand’s rural Pisa scores are shocking, but compared to international averages they are atrocious, with Thailand placed 50th among 65 nations in the 2009 Mathematics assessment, far behind the emerging Asean tiger, Vietnam (17th). continues:.... www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailand |
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Post by me on Jun 6, 2015 13:23:12 GMT 7
Should we be surprised? ======================================================================================== Low IQ levels a wake-up call for ThailandBangkok Post 6 Jun 2015 WRITER: DANIEL MAXWELL & PEERASIT KAMNUANSILPA On May 27, the Ministry of Public Health announced the IQ survey results, indicating that the IQ of Grade 1 students has dropped from 94 in 2011 to 93. The international standard is 100. It is highly possible that Thailand’s education system is harming students’ IQs. While the IQ of pre-school students is acceptable, IQ drops as primary schooling commences, suggesting a need for greater nurturing at schools. Furthermore, the IQ of students in rural areas is considerably lower, at just 89. This difference persists at university. While studies have found the IQ of Bangkok university students averages 115, the IQ of provincial university students is 5-8 points lower. Alarmingly, the low IQ levels in the recent survey confirm continuing high levels of intellectual disability — IQ levels lower than 70 — also termed "mildly impaired or delayed". The average global percentage of such students is 2%. However, the previous, 2011 survey found 6.5% of Thai students scored in this range. The recent results suggest intellectual disability in some rural areas could now be up to 10%. The regional disparities in IQ and intellectual disability are further reinforced by results from educational assessments such as the Ordinary National Education Test (O-Net) scores and the Programme for International Student Assessment (Pisa) scores. Despite being of dubious reliability, O-Net does illustrate provincial differences. In the 2010 Thai language O-Net, no Northeast province reached the top half of the national results. The 2009 Pisa results were similar, with the Lower Northeast scoring the lowest for reading, mathematics and science, while Bangkok scored highest. Thailand’s rural Pisa scores are shocking, but compared to international averages they are atrocious, with Thailand placed 50th among 65 nations in the 2009 Mathematics assessment, far behind the emerging Asean tiger, Vietnam (17th). continues:.... www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailandYou are a bit slow posting this. I beat you to it.  A lot of problems of this. What is IQ. It has been defined as what IQ tests test. IQ issupposed to be a constant. This indicates it can be changed. It is true that lead poisoning and other chemical poisons are endemic here and they can cause low IQ. Needs alot of looking at but I think if it were a Uni assignment the writer would recieve a fail. |
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 6, 2015 13:35:16 GMT 7
You are a bit slow posting this. I beat you to it. A lot of problems of this. What is IQ. It has been defined as what IQ tests test. IQ issupposed to be a constant. This indicates it can be changed. It is true that lead poisoning and other chemical poisons are endemic here and they can cause low IQ. Needs alot of looking at but I think if it were a Uni assignment the writer would recieve a fail. You're right, I was a bit slow, I guess that proves that living in Thailand really does reduce your IQ  posted here too: bigmango.boards.net/thread/1341/iq-dropsThey say genius (IQ 140 up) is next to insanity, and that's why I enjoy posting on BM, being near all these insane people and hoping it rubs off on my IQ. You have me worried now though that I'm slowing down and maybe my IQ is reducing. Perhaps the answer is to post on BigMango, but not live in Thailand? |
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Post by rubl on Jun 6, 2015 13:41:37 GMT 7
I had to double check, but this has nothing to do with smokie36 coming to Thailand  |
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 6, 2015 13:46:05 GMT 7
It also occurred to me when I read this, that when people say education in Thailand is failing people, maybe they don't understand what education in Thailand is about. This is Thailand and we do things differently here. Isn't part of the system in certain people's eyes to keep the peasants repressed and uneducated, so the elite can prosper? Seen thru many of the elites eyes, maybe they think the education is producing exactly the sought of lower intelligence workers they prefer... so in their eyes a success? i.e for them exactly what the patronage system needs, particularly if someone believes all people are not equal, and your place in life is a result of karma etc etc. If people started thinking too much, and believing they're equal, while many of us would welcome that, I suspect there's an elite segment that would be terrified |
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 6, 2015 13:48:18 GMT 7
I had to double check, but this has nothing to do with smokie36 coming to Thailand Not sure I concur with your conclusion: You mean he might directly reduce the average? Or do you mean he's coming here to be with like-minded low IQ people - ourselves included hehe? |
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Post by rubl on Jun 6, 2015 15:21:54 GMT 7
I had to double check, but this has nothing to do with smokie36 coming to Thailand Not sure I concur with your conclusion: You mean he might directly reduce the average? Or do you mean he's coming here to be with like-minded low IQ people - ourselves included hehe? Only when I insult some others I may add explicitly "present company excluded" although that's mostly implicit anyway. In the words of a wizard's friend "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. " |
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Post by me on Jun 6, 2015 15:36:19 GMT 7
I had to double check, but this has nothing to do with smokie36 coming to Thailand Not sure I concur with your conclusion: You mean he might directly reduce the average? Or do you mean he's coming here to be with like-minded low IQ people - ourselves included hehe? May be better than an education system that encourages you to do what you like and to hell with everyone else as in some other places. |
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Post by thaddeus on Jun 6, 2015 16:40:48 GMT 7
A good education is no substitute for intelligence.
(some of the best educated people I know are as dumb as rocks)
The O-NET tests cannot be used to measure IQ and there are other differences between the city and rural areas which would have a more significant effect than the standard of education, diet being one of them.
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Post by cc1 on Jun 6, 2015 20:35:51 GMT 7
It also occurred to me when I read this, that when people say education in Thailand is failing people, maybe they don't understand what education in Thailand is about. This is Thailand and we do things differently here. Isn't part of the system in certain people's eyes to keep the peasants repressed and uneducated, so the elite can prosper? Seen thru many of the elites eyes, maybe they think the education is producing exactly the sought of lower intelligence workers they prefer... so in their eyes a success? i.e for them exactly what the patronage system needs, particularly if someone believes all people are not equal, and your place in life is a result of karma etc etc. If people started thinking too much, and believing they're equal, while many of us would welcome that, I suspect there's an elite segment that would be terrified That's why we have feminism...not that I loathe it( not openly)... |
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