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Post by Soutpeel on Jun 15, 2018 8:09:19 GMT 7
Came across this ad on Faceache, claiming they can get taxes paid back for Thailands "teachers" a noble cause you may think...not according to one commentor who is whinging he has paid over THB 100k in Thai Taxes....wait for it over 5 whole years...fking priceless...so by my ready reckoning...THB 1600 a month to live the dream...   |
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Post by rubl on Jun 15, 2018 11:51:01 GMT 7
Well, to be honest, with THB 1600 a month there's not much more you can do but dream. Probably of real food orgies with lots of mama noodles and crates of Archa beer  |
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Post by Soutpeel on Jun 15, 2018 14:11:34 GMT 7
Well, to be honest, with THB 1600 a month there's not much more you can do but dream. Probably of real food orgies with lots of mama noodles and crates of Archa beer If he was paying +/-1600/m tax, what would his annual salary have been ?...first THB 150 is tax free, so guessing a little over 340k year and taxed at 10% ?...about 28k/m...USD 885/m. .? Fme no wonder they all eat mamma noodles and drink Archa..! Lets say 8k/month for a squat/hovel (condo) 1k/m power & water Thb 800/internet or phone 1k/m transport Thats only 425 bottles of Archa a month or 1172 bags of mamma noodles or 39 bags of noodles a day or 13 bottles of Archa a day Wow all in on about USD 33/day...what a life ! |
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Post by me on Jun 15, 2018 14:44:16 GMT 7
Bona fide teachers are entitled to pay no tax on their salary for I think it is 5 years so not a scam.
Do you claim all your tax deductions or do you feel the savings to you are not worth it?
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Post by Soutpeel on Jun 15, 2018 18:15:28 GMT 7
Bona fide teachers are entitled to pay no tax on their salary for I think it is 5 years so not a scam. Do you claim all your tax deductions or do you feel the savings to you are not worth it? Er bona fide teachers maybe excempt from tax per the following ruling, so not so simple, here is the full ruling for your reading pleasure....have fun...at the THB 28k/m level one suspects the vast majority are not Bona Fide teachers anyway...so this ruling wouldnt apply BTW Thailand has very little as regards tax deductions ,which results in very little savings anyway...but i certainly wouldnt lose any sleep over THB 1600/m they would be welcome to it Foreign professors, teachers or researchers remuneration may be exempted from personal income tax in Thailand.
Keywords: Mazars, Thailand, Tax, Revenue Department, DTA, Teachers, Personal Income Tax, Exempt
13 August 2014
A university invited a number of foreign teachers from various countries to teach and give lectures at the university.
In respect of the personal income tax that the foreign teachers may or may not be liable to pay on their remuneration, the university inquired to the Revenue Department whether:
1. The foreign teachers' remuneration derived from the university is exempted from personal income tax in Thailand?
2. If the answer is yes, whether the foreign teachers are entitled to claim for the refund of tax withheld by the university?
Ruling
1. According to the Double Tax Agreements (“DTAs”) that Thailand has concluded with Australia, China, UK, and USA, remuneration which professors, teachers or researchers derive from teaching or researching in Thailand will be exempted from personal income tax in Thailand only if the conditions set forth in each DTA are met, as follows:
(a) Remuneration derived by a professor, teacher, or researcher, who is a tax resident of Australia and visits Thailand at the invitation of any university, college, school or other similar educational institution which is situated in Thailand and accredited by the Minister of Finance of Thailand or his authorized delegate for a period not exceeding 2 years shall be exempted from personal income tax under Article 20, paragraph 1, of the DTA between Thailand and Australia.
(b) Remuneration derived by a professor, teacher, or researcher, who is a tax resident of China and visits Thailand at the invitation of any university, college, school or other similar educational institution which is situated in Thailand and accredited by the Minister of Finance of Thailand or his authorized delegate for a period not exceeding 3 years shall be exempted from personal income tax under Article 21, paragraph 1, of the DTA between Thailand and China.
(c) Remuneration derived by a professor or teacher, who visits Thailand for the purpose of teaching or engaging in research at a university, college, or other similar educational institution which is situated and accredited in Thailand for a period not exceeding 2 years from the date he first visits Thailand for teaching or engaging in the research and who was immediately before that visit a tax resident of the United Kingdom, shall be exempted from personal income tax under Article 21, paragraph 1, of the DTA between Thailand and the UK.
(d) Remuneration derived by a teacher, who visits Thailand for the purpose of teaching or engaging in research at a university, college, or other similar educational institution which is situated and accredited in Thailand for a period not exceeding 2 years from the date he first visits Thailand for teaching or engaging in the research and who was immediately before that visit a tax resident of the United States of America, shall be exempted from personal income tax under Article 23, paragraph 1, of the DTA between Thailand and the USA.
In each case, the remuneration derived by a professor or teacher from performing research particularly for personal interest of any person or group of persons shall not be exempted from personal income tax under the Article.
However, if the professor, teacher, or researcher does not leave Thailand when the time period of 2 years for the person who was a tax resident of Australia, UK, or US, or 3 years for the person who was a tax resident of China, is up, they shall not be entitled to the exemption from personal income tax from the first date they visit Thailand.
2. In the case where the foreign teachers who are entitled to the exemption from personal income tax but their remunerations have already been withheld and remitted by the university, have the right to file a request for tax refund within 3 years from the last date of the year in which the tax was deducted, pursuant to Section 63 of the Revenue Code.
Source: (Tax Ruling No. GorKhor 0702/4585, dated 1 August 2008)
Please note that this tax ruling merely addresses the tax implications of remuneration derived by the foreign teachers who have come from the countries that concluded the DTA with Thailand and such DTA must also include the “Teacher Article”. However, for teachers who have come from countries that have a DTA with Thailand but such DTA does not include the “Teacher Article” (e.g. Canada, South Africa, or New Zealand, etc.), the remuneration derived by them will not be exempted from personal income tax in Thailand under the Teacher Article. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 15, 2018 21:27:36 GMT 7
Well, to be honest, with THB 1600 a month there's not much more you can do but dream. Probably of real food orgies with lots of mama noodles and crates of Archa beer If he was paying +/-1600/m tax, what would his annual salary have been ?...first THB 150 is tax free, so guessing a little over 340k year and taxed at 10% ?...about 28k/m...USD 885/m. .? Fme no wonder they all eat mamma noodles and drink Archa..! Lets say 8k/month for a squat/hovel (condo) 1k/m power & water Thb 800/internet or phone 1k/m transport Thats only 425 bottles of Archa a month or 1172 bags of mamma noodles or 39 bags of noodles a day or 13 bottles of Archa a day Wow all in on about USD 33/day...what a life ! Pls excuse my back of a fag packet calculation, but thats less then 30k baht per month is it not? As much as it may be easy to knock them, its something the crusties who bitch and moan about not being able to afford medical insurance/treatment in Thailand should consider, get yer ass off the barstool, update the cv, and sent the suit of to the drycleaners, become a teecha, get into the Thai health scheme and all its benefits. Would I get outta bed for that sort of money, no chance, then again I aint a skint upcountry brexit pensioner. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 15, 2018 21:30:32 GMT 7
Bona fide teachers are entitled to pay no tax on their salary for I think it is 5 years so not a scam. Do you claim all your tax deductions or do you feel the savings to you are not worth it?For me personally, no I dont, not worth the time and effort, hassle involved, traffic etc etc, ffs would spend more on petrol than I could claim back, the Thais are welcome to the money. |
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Post by smokie36 on Jun 16, 2018 11:00:58 GMT 7
Bona fide teachers are entitled to pay no tax on their salary for I think it is 5 years so not a scam. Do you claim all your tax deductions or do you feel the savings to you are not worth it?For me personally, no I dont, not worth the time and effort, hassle involved, traffic etc etc, ffs would spend more on petrol than I could claim back, the Thais are welcome to the money. I noticed they moved the tax deductable shopping spree back to early Dec....was fun watching the pre New Year scramble...oh well. |
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Post by Soutpeel on Jun 16, 2018 13:36:00 GMT 7
If he was paying +/-1600/m tax, what would his annual salary have been ?...first THB 150 is tax free, so guessing a little over 340k year and taxed at 10% ?...about 28k/m...USD 885/m. .? Fme no wonder they all eat mamma noodles and drink Archa..! Lets say 8k/month for a squat/hovel (condo) 1k/m power & water Thb 800/internet or phone 1k/m transport Thats only 425 bottles of Archa a month or 1172 bags of mamma noodles or 39 bags of noodles a day or 13 bottles of Archa a day Wow all in on about USD 33/day...what a life ! Pls excuse my back of a fag packet calculation, but thats less then 30k baht per month is it not? As much as it may be easy to knock them, its something the crusties who bitch and moan about not being able to afford medical insurance/treatment in Thailand should consider, get yer ass off the barstool, update the cv, and sent the suit of to the drycleaners, become a teecha, get into the Thai health scheme and all its benefits. Would I get outta bed for that sort of money, no chance, then again I aint a skint upcountry brexit pensioner. Well yes it would do the old crusties well Thb 30k from teaching Thb 27k from their UK state pension My only fear would be Thailand youth would turn into a nation of complete whingers  |
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Post by rubl on Jun 16, 2018 14:54:28 GMT 7
I still have a THB 400 cheque from the Thai tax authorities somewhere, an unexpected refund from fifteen years ago (I think). If I can find it again I think I'll frame it just for the fun of it |
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Post by smokie36 on Jun 17, 2018 19:00:20 GMT 7
I still have a THB 400 cheque from the Thai tax authorities somewhere, an unexpected refund from fifteen years ago (I think). If I can find it again I think I'll frame it just for the fun of it I can help you spend it Uncle rubl! |
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Post by rubl on Jun 17, 2018 20:23:15 GMT 7
I still have a THB 400 cheque from the Thai tax authorities somewhere, an unexpected refund from fifteen years ago (I think). If I can find it again I think I'll frame it just for the fun of it I can help you spend it Uncle rubl! How much for lollipops in the UK these days, young laddie? Tell me and I'll transfer the money. That's assuming the transfer itself doesn't swallow up the complete windfall  |
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Post by smokie36 on Jun 18, 2018 13:00:35 GMT 7
I can help you spend it Uncle rubl! How much for lollipops in the UK these days, young laddie? Tell me and I'll transfer the money. That's assuming the transfer itself doesn't swallow up the complete windfall I can get a gram of bubblegum for 400 Baht in the Dam! Wooo hooooo! |
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