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Post by Mosha on May 6, 2019 2:30:35 GMT 7
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Post by Mosha on May 6, 2019 5:15:32 GMT 7
Now feared at least 40 dead. One passenger said he saw a white flash, may have been lightning.
Interjet from Mexico is one of a few foreign airlines to operate the model. However they are phasing them out, citing reliability, and spare part sourcing problems.
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Post by siampolee on May 6, 2019 9:11:10 GMT 7
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Post by rubl on May 6, 2019 9:57:01 GMT 7
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a flood of information with a lot of speculation but nothing on possible problems inherent to the design of the Sukhoi SuperJet. A lot of very clinical comments you seldom hear from RT.
Also
"aviation safety assessor Jacques Astre reckons it’s “very likely” that the fire began with an electrical fault.
Astre reckons it’s “very likely” that the fire began with an electrical fault. That view is shared by Sultan Hali, a former senior officer with the Pakistani Air Force and a veteran aviator.
“The usual culprit is electronic cables short-circuiting, so this could very well be an electronic fire caused by that,” he told RT."
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"Astre suggested that the enormous fireball could have been a result of the hard landing, as it was reported the plane hit the ground three times before staying down. “Viewing the video, it appears to me from the flames and the smoke, that maybe the plane landed hard, compromising the fuel tanks.”
Leaked CCTV footage seems to back-up Astre’s claim, and shows the plane repeatedly smacking the runway before bursting into a massive fireball."
As we know that's normal in modern planes. They bounce, there are always sparks, it's just the fun of flying.
As far as I'm concerned it looks more like a Russian Snow-Under job diverting from even the tiniest hint of possible defectish aspects in Russian Super Technology..
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Post by Mosha on May 6, 2019 10:33:33 GMT 7
Kudos to the pilot for getting it on the runway. The video brought back memories of Concorde. It's a wonder anyone survived.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 12:17:36 GMT 7
^^| a flood of information with a lot of speculation but nothing on possible problems inherent to the design of the Sukhoi SuperJet. A lot of very clinical comments you seldom hear from RT. Also "aviation safety assessor Jacques Astre reckons it’s “very likely” that the fire began with an electrical fault. Astre reckons it’s “very likely” that the fire began with an electrical fault. That view is shared by Sultan Hali, a former senior officer with the Pakistani Air Force and a veteran aviator. “The usual culprit is electronic cables short-circuiting, so this could very well be an electronic fire caused by that,” he told RT." and "Astre suggested that the enormous fireball could have been a result of the hard landing, as it was reported the plane hit the ground three times before staying down. “Viewing the video, it appears to me from the flames and the smoke, that maybe the plane landed hard, compromising the fuel tanks.” Leaked CCTV footage seems to back-up Astre’s claim, and shows the plane repeatedly smacking the runway before bursting into a massive fireball." As we know that's normal in modern planes. They bounce, there are always sparks, it's just the fun of flying. As far as I'm concerned it looks more like a Russian Snow-Under job diverting from even the tiniest hint of possible defectish aspects in Russian Super Technology.. We do not need outside news sites to tell us what caused the fire, we have a plethora of knowledge and experts on this site. For example, if a train derails we would ask our in-house experts of SiamPolee and Oldie as to the reasons and causes, if a computer system fails we would ask Uncle Rubl for advice, if the cost of a spliff shot up we would consult our expert Smokie, etc. In the case of the super-jet fire, I will wait for the official word from our resident flight engineer, Mr. Black-box himself. So what do you say RGS, can you school your followers as to the cause of this disaster? |
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Post by Mosha on May 6, 2019 16:16:49 GMT 7
One friend saw on BBC a suggestion that the passengers at the front were gathering their hand luggage from the overhead lockers, dooming those further back.
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Post by rubl on May 6, 2019 16:30:35 GMT 7
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Post by Mosha on May 7, 2019 4:30:13 GMT 7
BBC. Pilot said it was lightning.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2019 6:49:37 GMT 7
BBC. Pilot said it was lightning. In my mind this does not make sense, I thought that the body of the plane acted like a Faraday cage and thus negated any effects of a lightening strike. Surely that is why we are able to fly in almost all weather conditions without the worry that a small storm could bring us down. |
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Post by Mosha on May 7, 2019 7:40:43 GMT 7
BBC. Pilot said it was lightning. In my mind this does not make sense, I thought that the body of the plane acted like a Faraday cage and thus negated any effects of a lightening strike. Surely that is why we are able to fly in almost all weather conditions without the worry that a small storm could bring us down. The old style aircraft are. Aren't the Superjets made of composite materials? However it is highly unusual for an aircraft lightning strike to bring one down. I think most aircraft get hit during their lifetime. |
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Post by rubl on May 7, 2019 10:58:27 GMT 7
If I remember correctly the wings of the Airbus A350 and Boeing 787 have metal strips embedded only partially for structural concerns. Mostly it's because of the need to handle lightning strikes.
The A350 wings are made in England, forgot name of company but their website may have details.
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Post by rubl on May 7, 2019 14:16:50 GMT 7
On a Dutch news site it said the cockpitvoice recorder is undamaged, the flightdata recorder is heavily damaged. Both are still usable for the investigation though. They referenced this Interfax page which is in Russian www.interfax.ru/russia/660364 |
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Post by rubl on May 18, 2019 13:08:05 GMT 7
I know, I know, less than two weeks ago. Still, the silence is deafening.
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Post by me on May 18, 2019 16:14:31 GMT 7
Closest I have seen is a report that he came in fast bounced and instead of a Go around or holding off and reflaring if he had room pushed the stick forward with inevitable consequences.
Composite aircraft are still basicly a faraday cage but radios and equipment (Aerials) can be affected.
Where is rgs when you want him.....not inside a 737Max I hope.
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