rubl
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Post by rubl on Dec 17, 2019 12:53:17 GMT 7
Interesting read. Note that Britain will face similar choices for areas in South-East and East. "When will the Netherlands disappear? The low-lying country has centuries of experience managing water. Now climate change is threatening to flood it completely. ... The Noordwaard polder was one of 39 such areas selected for the Dutch government’s “Room for the River” program, in which land was given back to the water. It’s a modern reversal of the centuries-old practice of land reclamation by the famously low-lying country. It’s also a snapshot of the future the country faces: With unprecedented sea level rise forecast as a result of climate change, the Dutch government is racing against the clock to figure out how to keep one of the world’s richest countries from disappearing into the North Sea. Sea rise forecasts range from levels that are manageable as long as the increase is gradual, to doomsday scenarios that would outpace authorities’ ability to respond. Quietly, experts are beginning to model out potential futures on behalf of the government. ..." www.politico.eu/article/when-will-the-netherlands-disappear-climate-change/ |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 18, 2019 1:42:45 GMT 7
When the German tanks arrive of course!
Sorry rubl couldn't resist hehe.
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Post by siampolee on Dec 18, 2019 6:25:53 GMT 7
All well and good but who in what may remain of the EU will bail the The Netherlands out I ask? PS smokie kindly be more circumspect when posting. ''hehe' is considered to be a rather indelicate expression, used mainly by the lower orders who of course do not know better unlike you educated fellows...   |
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 18, 2019 7:42:12 GMT 7
An interesting article in the Torygraph this AM: ....it asks, Why are the Dutch so Unbelievably Rude? I personally never felt the Dutch were rude, they are many other things perhaps but rude is not one of them. I rather like the following because it sums up my experience of working with them over several years, no offence intended, merely an observation: "Today, Dutch directness is usually the basis for negotiation: “Tell me what you think, and I’ll tell you what I think, and then we’ll agree a solution”. The downside of this is that debates can be interminable – if you’re with a group of Dutch people, deciding what time to go for lunch can easily take longer than lunch itself". and this: "I once asked a business leader who’d moved from Texas to The Hague what the main difference between the two working cultures was. “In the Netherlands we have a lot more meetings,” she said with a weary sigh. “A lot more.” Yet collegiality is also paired with informality: this is a country where many wear jeans to the office, and even royalty often cycles to work. Equality is prized, hierarchies are flat, and acting superior is a cardinal sin. In that context, speaking one’s mind seems not only necessary, but natural. If you don’t like something, why not just say so?" I was Launch Manager at Telfort years ago and we were horribly strapped for local resource. The HR Manager was tasked to find fifty people to replace expensive expat consultants and every week he was made to report progress. Every week it was the same thing, zero new recruits hired, zero candidates interviewed, zero advertising placed. His answer was always the same, we're busy agreeing the job descriptions with the line managers. Meanwhile of course, the business model was falling deeper into the red every week because we couldn't reduce staffing costs. An interesting and mostly fun read: www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/netherlands/articles/why-dutch-so-direct-rude/ |
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Post by rubl on Dec 18, 2019 10:16:44 GMT 7
When the German tanks arrive of course! Sorry rubl couldn't resist hehe. Find the differences Battle of the Bulge, 1943 PANZERLIED ✠ BUNDESWEHR ✠ GERMAN ARMY TANKS ✠ LEOPARD 2, 21st century |
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Post by rubl on Dec 18, 2019 10:35:52 GMT 7
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Post by rubl on Dec 18, 2019 10:40:13 GMT 7
An interesting article in the Torygraph this AM: ....it asks, Why are the Dutch so Unbelievably Rude? I personally never felt the Dutch were rude, they are many other things perhaps but rude is not one of them. I rather like the following because it sums up my experience of working with them over several years, no offence intended, merely an observation: "Today, Dutch directness is usually the basis for negotiation: “Tell me what you think, and I’ll tell you what I think, and then we’ll agree a solution”. The downside of this is that debates can be interminable – if you’re with a group of Dutch people, deciding what time to go for lunch can easily take longer than lunch itself". and this: "I once asked a business leader who’d moved from Texas to The Hague what the main difference between the two working cultures was. “In the Netherlands we have a lot more meetings,” she said with a weary sigh. “A lot more.” Yet collegiality is also paired with informality: this is a country where many wear jeans to the office, and even royalty often cycles to work. Equality is prized, hierarchies are flat, and acting superior is a cardinal sin. In that context, speaking one’s mind seems not only necessary, but natural. If you don’t like something, why not just say so?" I was Launch Manager at Telfort years ago and we were horribly strapped for local resource. The HR Manager was tasked to find fifty people to replace expensive expat consultants and every week he was made to report progress. Every week it was the same thing, zero new recruits hired, zero candidates interviewed, zero advertising placed. His answer was always the same, we're busy agreeing the job descriptions with the line managers. Meanwhile of course, the business model was falling deeper into the red every week because we couldn't reduce staffing costs. An interesting and mostly fun read: www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/netherlands/articles/why-dutch-so-direct-rude/From that article "Ask a friend if they think you’ve lost weight, and you won’t like the answer. " Translates to "do you want the truth or shall I lie to you?"  |
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 18, 2019 10:43:05 GMT 7
An interesting article in the Torygraph this AM: ....it asks, Why are the Dutch so Unbelievably Rude? I personally never felt the Dutch were rude, they are many other things perhaps but rude is not one of them. I rather like the following because it sums up my experience of working with them over several years, no offence intended, merely an observation: "Today, Dutch directness is usually the basis for negotiation: “Tell me what you think, and I’ll tell you what I think, and then we’ll agree a solution”. The downside of this is that debates can be interminable – if you’re with a group of Dutch people, deciding what time to go for lunch can easily take longer than lunch itself". and this: "I once asked a business leader who’d moved from Texas to The Hague what the main difference between the two working cultures was. “In the Netherlands we have a lot more meetings,” she said with a weary sigh. “A lot more.” Yet collegiality is also paired with informality: this is a country where many wear jeans to the office, and even royalty often cycles to work. Equality is prized, hierarchies are flat, and acting superior is a cardinal sin. In that context, speaking one’s mind seems not only necessary, but natural. If you don’t like something, why not just say so?" I was Launch Manager at Telfort years ago and we were horribly strapped for local resource. The HR Manager was tasked to find fifty people to replace expensive expat consultants and every week he was made to report progress. Every week it was the same thing, zero new recruits hired, zero candidates interviewed, zero advertising placed. His answer was always the same, we're busy agreeing the job descriptions with the line managers. Meanwhile of course, the business model was falling deeper into the red every week because we couldn't reduce staffing costs. An interesting and mostly fun read: www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/europe/netherlands/articles/why-dutch-so-direct-rude/From that article "Ask a friend if they think you’ve lost weight, and you won’t like the answer. " Translates to "do you want the truth or shall I lie to you?" What do you say when your partner asks, does my bum look big in this"?  |
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Post by rubl on Dec 18, 2019 10:54:39 GMT 7
From that article "Ask a friend if they think you’ve lost weight, and you won’t like the answer. " Translates to "do you want the truth or shall I lie to you?" What do you say when your partner asks, does my bum look big in this"? That's like one of the 'rules by men' 1. If you think you're fat, you probably are. Don't ask us. |
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