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Post by rubl on Jun 13, 2020 13:43:56 GMT 7
Since some seem to want to know more on the Dutch atrocities in their colonies and the 'black lives don't matter' policy in those days here a Dutch language article. Of course, there are no such articles on how the British did as they were always gentlemanly, well behaved and burned their records. "1873, het jaar waarin de slaven van Suriname pas écht bevrijd waren In het racismedebat gaat het de laatste weken ook weer regelmatig over het slavernijverleden van Nederland. Daarvoor hoef je dan ook minder ver terug in de geschiedenis dan veel mensen denken. Officieel schafte Nederland de slavernij op 1 juli 1863 af, maar in de praktijk was het toen niet ineens voorbij. De dreigende afschaffing van de slavernij zorgde halverwege de negentiende voor angst in Suriname. Niet bij de tot slaaf gemaakten zelf, die waren ongetwijfeld niet op de hoogte dat dit decreet vanuit Nederland aanstaande was. Wel onder de plantagehouders. Want als alle slaven per half 1863 opeens vrij zouden zijn, wie zou dan het werk doen op de plantages? De vondst om dat op te lossen is even wrang als misdadig. In de staatscourant waarin het einde van de slavernij wordt aangekondigd met artikel 1, staat ook artikel 3: De krachtens art. 1 vrijgemaakten staan van de 1sten julij 1863 onder een bijzonder toezigt van de Staat, voor den tijd van hoogstens tien jaren." www.nu.nl/weekend/6057617/1873-het-jaar-waarin-de-slaven-van-suriname-pas-echt-bevrijd-waren.html |
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Post by AyG on Jun 13, 2020 16:18:53 GMT 7
^^^ I have no idea why you posted something that you are probably the only forum reader who can read. However, it would appear to be about Dutch Guinea, or Surinam. To quote Wikipedia selectively: "The colonization of Surinam is marked by slavery. Plantations relied on slave labour, mostly supplied by the Dutch West India Company" "Planters' treatment of the slaves was notoriously bad—historian C.R. Boxer wrote that "man's inhumanity to man just about reached its limits in Surinam"" "Slavery was eventually abolished on 1 July 1863, although slaves were only released after a ten-year transitory period in 1873." In contrast, the British Slavery Abolition Act freed slaves in British colonies in August, 1834. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surinam_(Dutch_colony)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833 |
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Post by siampolee on Jun 13, 2020 18:22:25 GMT 7
Well it's 91 years ago to this day that Anne Frank and here family were betrayed or sold to the Germans as had been and those who still were members of the Dutch resistance. Guess what it was a collaborating Dutch criminal creature that took the blood money. Perhaps the oh so snowy white dazzling reputation we're being told or led to believe the Dutch had regarding slavery and inhumane conduct,etc, by some folk may not actually be a true picture of the facts as history shows. The cut and paste comes from ''The Guardian'' that left wing rag source so beloved by those who think they know everything... www.theguardian.com/education/2002/jul/29/artsandhumanities.highereducation |
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Post by rubl on Jun 13, 2020 19:27:41 GMT 7
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Post by rubl on Jun 13, 2020 19:30:34 GMT 7
^^^ I have no idea why you posted something that you are probably the only forum reader who can read. However, it would appear to be about Dutch Guinea, or Surinam. To quote Wikipedia selectively: "The colonization of Surinam is marked by slavery. Plantations relied on slave labour, mostly supplied by the Dutch West India Company" "Planters' treatment of the slaves was notoriously bad—historian C.R. Boxer wrote that "man's inhumanity to man just about reached its limits in Surinam"" "Slavery was eventually abolished on 1 July 1863, although slaves were only released after a ten-year transitory period in 1873." In contrast, the British Slavery Abolition Act freed slaves in British colonies in August, 1834. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surinam_(Dutch_colony)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833Try translate.google.com/The reason, well some here seem to have a problem with racism while others seem to be of mindset "not us, surely". |
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Post by siampolee on Jun 13, 2020 20:53:37 GMT 7
Now just what did your family do to survive in the German occupation? Easy to live cheek by jowl when working hand in glove with others.
Perhaps the truth is not pleasant hence your comments and hate of the UK and the English in general. The fear of truth emerging frightens you.
Let's be honest the lengths you go to to find anything you can to post as a slur on the UK or England and the English ib general shows just what you are, a sad little creature you are who is bitter because Britain along with the Allies in general defeated and destroyed the Nazis and Germany, to you it is an affront to your ancestry and covert beliefs. just like the Kaiser, insanely jealous of the English but so wanting to be English.
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Post by rubl on Jun 14, 2020 16:01:40 GMT 7
Nice siampolee, going full Trump style with baseless accusations. Insinuating my parents were involved with the NAZI occupation forces. Distracting as usual. Anything to avoid having to look inward.
Sad, real sad.
PS just to indicate how hurtful your remarks are, let's imagine I would suggest your father while in the British Forces might actually have been providing the Axis forces with valuable info. Of course not sure, but what with your distractions maybe not even too unlikely.
NOTE: I wrote that only to show how easy it is to hurtfully insinuate without caring about truthfulness.
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Post by siampolee on Jun 14, 2020 18:57:45 GMT 7
I don't really have any concerns about your post . I replied to you in the same way you malign the UK and the English in general.
My old man being a middle ranking officer during the war and later a colonel may have been a spy, who knows. Mind you he had a medal or two and a commendation or two for his pre-war efforts and his wartime efforts and not from the Nazi's or the lower level Bosch or any of the Axis as far as I am aware, mind you I might be wrong and as such that would indeed prove he was indeed a master of his craft, who knows..
Bear in mind, ''It is a wise man who knows his father'' that could well apply to you as well
You delight in besmirching the UK and the English in general your extensive obsessional searches for less public facts to quote, certainly show you in your true colours.
Trump comments, oh dear snowflake, sorry if your precious ego has been hurt
Again your obsession with Trump is indeed an unhealthy one. Personally I don't give a flying fart what Trump says as like you he is far removed from reality, indeed one might even say unbalanced.
Now why not go and lie down and immerse your self in your Biggles book collection, then perhaps that will assist you in feeling English instead of being jealous of the English.
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Post by oldie on Jun 15, 2020 2:00:44 GMT 7
My father was a low life who spent more time in the cooler than on duty. He was finally made an example of by being grabbed by the ear and marched off parade in front of his peers and physically kicked out the barracks gate.
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Post by chiangmai on Jun 15, 2020 9:19:36 GMT 7
My father was a low life who spent more time in the cooler than on duty. He was finally made an example of by being grabbed by the ear and marched off parade in front of his peers and physically kicked out the barracks gate. My dad used to brag about how he was badly wounded in the war and it was 50/50 whether or not he'd make it, Dunkirk was mentioned but there was no specifics. When mum heard the story she'd crack up, he was stationed on Horse Sands Fort for the war and shot himself in the hand when he was cleaning his rifle, he got 14 days restricted privilege and docked one weeks pay. In all fairness, it is possible just about see Dunkirk from Horse Sands Fort, as long as a parabolic mirror is strategically placed and a telescope with the power of Jodrell Bank is used. |
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Post by rubl on Jun 15, 2020 11:41:02 GMT 7
I don't really have any concerns about your post . I replied to you in the same way you malign the UK and the English in general. My old man being a middle ranking officer during the war and later a colonel may have been a spy, who knows. Mind you he had a medal or two and a commendation or two for his pre-war efforts and his wartime efforts and not from the Nazi's or the lower level Bosch or any of the Axis as far as I am aware, mind you I might be wrong and as such that would indeed prove he was indeed a master of his craft, who knows.. Bear in mind, ''It is a wise man who knows his father'' that could well apply to you as well You delight in besmirching the UK and the English in general your extensive obsessional searches for less public facts to quote, certainly show you in your true colours. Trump comments, oh dear snowflake, sorry if your precious ego has been hurt Again your obsession with Trump is indeed an unhealthy one. Personally I don't give a flying fart what Trump says as like you he is far removed from reality, indeed one might even say unbalanced. Now why not go and lie down and immerse your self in your Biggles book collection, then perhaps that will assist you in feeling English instead of being jealous of the English. Siampolee, you still don't get it it would seem. You talk about maligning the UK and the English WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT I WROTE WHICH COULD BE INTERPRETED AS MALIGNING. Besmirching the English by telling facts? It would seem that just stating the truth you see as an anti-English action. Your 'less public' qualification of facts even has a hint of me referring to information which should have remained hidden rather than made available under law after 60 years of secrecy. Your 'extensive obsessional searches' only suggest you don't know how easy it is to search. As for the 'snowflake', 'obsessions', unbalanced', 'jealous', that seems your way of showing your insecurity as Englishman. Facts hurt you, and off you go, wildly thrashing around you. Sad, real sad. |
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Post by siampolee on Jun 15, 2020 12:03:36 GMT 7
Ah as usual the kaiser speaks a despicable piece of human detritus that it is. You write nothing, it is all cut and paste or outright plagiarism, you are a classic racist nothing more nothing less.
Carry on as you will, and I will carry on replying to any attack(s) you make on the UK and the English.
Your quick to whine when history is mentioned if it does not suit you are you not, but happy to quote it when it suits you. I do not need to search I am aware of the facts you quote and quoted.
Now go and be a good boy and play with your computer systems as they cannot argue with you but have to obey your commands Thus your insignificant self then gets an ego boost, your mental orgasms are achieved
By the way when the Biggles books are finished you can move on to ''Bulldog Drummond.'' sure you'll enjoy them,
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