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Post by Mosha on Sept 25, 2020 15:43:43 GMT 7
He'd been taken into custody and searched, and then produced a gun, with which he shot the policeman and himself. bbc.in/367x6HN
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Post by Mosha on Sept 26, 2020 7:57:45 GMT 7
The perp was known to anti terrorist police
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Post by rubl on Sept 26, 2020 11:20:51 GMT 7
"Suspect in Croydon police shooting had hands cuffed behind his back Investigators trying to establish how gunman was able to kill Sgt Matt Ratana inside police station ... The 23-year-old suspect also shot himself and was critically ill in hospital on Friday evening. Police had been about to run a metal detector over him when he managed, while handcuffed with his hands behind his back, to reach a revolver he had secreted on his body and open fire, shooting the sergeant in the chest and himself in the neck. ... The suspect had been flagged over concerns about both rightwing and Islamist indoctrination, sources said, but nothing of concern was found. Mental health is also a consideration in the inquiry, with the suspect understood to have a learning disability – though whether this was a factor is yet to be determined." www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/25/suspect-croydon-police-shooting-known-prevent-scheme
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Post by Mosha on Sept 26, 2020 11:27:38 GMT 7
"Suspect in Croydon police shooting had hands cuffed behind his back Investigators trying to establish how gunman was able to kill Sgt Matt Ratana inside police station ... The 23-year-old suspect also shot himself and was critically ill in hospital on Friday evening. Police had been about to run a metal detector over him when he managed, while handcuffed with his hands behind his back, to reach a revolver he had secreted on his body and open fire, shooting the sergeant in the chest and himself in the neck. ... The suspect had been flagged over concerns about both rightwing and Islamist indoctrination, sources said, but nothing of concern was found. Mental health is also a consideration in the inquiry, with the suspect understood to have a learning disability – though whether this was a factor is yet to be determined." www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/25/suspect-croydon-police-shooting-known-prevent-schemeMental health. AKA standard fall back position when dealing with Islamists. I hope the perps condition improves to terminal condition.
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Post by rubl on Sept 26, 2020 11:58:30 GMT 7
"Suspect in Croydon police shooting had hands cuffed behind his back Investigators trying to establish how gunman was able to kill Sgt Matt Ratana inside police station ... The 23-year-old suspect also shot himself and was critically ill in hospital on Friday evening. Police had been about to run a metal detector over him when he managed, while handcuffed with his hands behind his back, to reach a revolver he had secreted on his body and open fire, shooting the sergeant in the chest and himself in the neck. ... The suspect had been flagged over concerns about both rightwing and Islamist indoctrination, sources said, but nothing of concern was found. Mental health is also a consideration in the inquiry, with the suspect understood to have a learning disability – though whether this was a factor is yet to be determined." www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/25/suspect-croydon-police-shooting-known-prevent-schemeMental health. AKA standard fall back position when dealing with Islamists. I hope the perps condition improves to terminal condition. Did we already get more details on the, ahm, 'suspect' ? Term used lightly, also known as 'scumbag'
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Post by siampolee on Sept 26, 2020 17:32:35 GMT 7
The accused is of Sri Lankan origin, the murdered officer had 29 years service in and nearing retirement. The murdered police officer was a New Zealander by birth.
Serious questions need to,in must be asked as to how the arrested body managed to conceal a firearm or possibly grab one.
In my time and dept, once a perp or suspect was pulled it was, cuffs on and clothes off post-haste, then covered in a blanket, we often used a shroud to influence our actions, then into a vehicle and away to the factory for processing.
A few regulations bent or broken however in the day we had backing from the top. Unlike now when the criminal is regarded as a social casualty, thus the victim, whilst law enforcement officers are now regarded as the criminals.
Time to throw off the yoke(s) of the PC libtard snowflakes, the bean counters, and the inefficient leadership of many of the police forces, time to take the streets back so as the greater majority of the UK citizens irrespective of ethnic or religious and political leanings can sleep peacefully abed, then when out and about are able to pursue their activities pastimes, etc without fear, let or hindrance.
Indeed how long before people realise that the libtard snowflake liberal movements are the greatest threat to what may remain of the freedom(s) of the population at large?
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Post by AyG on Sept 26, 2020 17:58:03 GMT 7
Time to throw off the yoke(s) of the PC libtard snowflakes, the bean counters, and the inefficient leadership of many of the police forces, time to take the streets back so as the greater majority of the UK citizens irrespective of ethnic or religious and political leanings can sleep peacefully abed, then when out and about are able to pursue their activities pastimes, etc without fear, let or hindrance. Sounds rather like the American police. As for sleeping "peacefully abed", tell that to Breonna Taylor. Oh no, you can't. She's dead. Summary justice simply for being black. Not, of course, that the British police are adverse to shooting innocent people with less-than-white skin. Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes springs to mind.
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Post by rubl on Sept 26, 2020 18:56:51 GMT 7
"A few rules bent or broken"
One cannot but love democracy when one experiences it.
Anyway, it does indeed need to be investigated how the perp managed to conceal a weapon without the officers who had cuffed him noticing. Not to blame those officers for the dead of their colleague, they'll do that themselves already I fear, but to possibly amend rules to prevent such from happening again.
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Post by Mosha on Sept 26, 2020 19:18:56 GMT 7
Time to throw off the yoke(s) of the PC libtard snowflakes, the bean counters, and the inefficient leadership of many of the police forces, time to take the streets back so as the greater majority of the UK citizens irrespective of ethnic or religious and political leanings can sleep peacefully abed, then when out and about are able to pursue their activities pastimes, etc without fear, let or hindrance. Sounds rather like the American police. As for sleeping "peacefully abed", tell that to Breonna Taylor. Oh no, you can't. She's dead. Summary justice simply for being black. Not, of course, that the British police are adverse to shooting innocent people with less-than-white skin. Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes springs to mind. Ms Taylor's BF was that innocent. He may have been the target, she the shield
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Post by AyG on Sept 26, 2020 20:47:26 GMT 7
Ms Taylor's BF was that innocent. He may have been the target, she the shield Apparently he was that innocent. "Walker's attorney, said Walker comes from a good family and had never been in trouble before in his life." www.thesun.co.uk/news/12759073/breonna-taylor-kenneth-walker-louisville-police/Edit: and just to add, isn't it rather racist that you assume, apparently in the complete absence of evidence, he was some sort of criminal because he's a negro?
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Post by siampolee on Sept 26, 2020 22:35:02 GMT 7
Strange how those who've never experienced the delights of policing on the front line run their trendy libtard views out for an airing.
I carry a scar or two from being stabbed in the upper leg due to the assailants claim he was going to emasculate me, plus a number of scars due to being on the wrong end albeit from some distance from a shotgun luckily much of the initial velocity had been lost by the time the spread shot reached my fellow officers and me, sawn offs are lethal at short range but at around 6-8 metres bloody annoying but unless one was to be unlucky non-terminal
Perhaps those who chose to pontificate via their keyboards were to put their lives on the front line as opposed to tinkering with computers and being financial workers, although to be fair as I recall said financial worker did claim experience of the joys of a city bomb blast they would be a little better informed as to the realities of life.
Jean Charles da Silva e de Menezes died as he ignored the orders to stop when challenged, his understanding of English both spoken and heard was fine, he had been resident in the UK for a considerable length of time. The officer in charge of that operation was the Met's Gold Commander Cressida Dick who authorised officers to continue pursuit and surveillance, and ordered that the suspect be prevented from entering the Tube system. Sadly, Cressida Dick is the current commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service.
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Post by Mosha on Sept 27, 2020 8:12:40 GMT 7
Ms Taylor's BF was that innocent. He may have been the target, she the shield Apparently he was that innocent. "Walker's attorney, said Walker comes from a good family and had never been in trouble before in his life." www.thesun.co.uk/news/12759073/breonna-taylor-kenneth-walker-louisville-police/Edit: and just to add, isn't it rather racist that you assume, apparently in the complete absence of evidence, he was some sort of criminal because he's a negro? I never mentioned his race.
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Post by rubl on Sept 27, 2020 8:53:29 GMT 7
Isn't there a significant overlap in 'libtard's views' and 'rule of law'?
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Post by Mosha on Sept 28, 2020 9:42:20 GMT 7
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Post by AyG on Sept 28, 2020 10:21:57 GMT 7
I can't read that article (not a subscriber), but anyway, so what if he fired first? The police broke down the door and didn't announce themselves before doing so (which was contrary to the warrant). If a bunch of strangers broke down my front door and I had a gun, I'm pretty sure I would want to defend myself.
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