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Post by eldivino on Oct 2, 2021 21:35:15 GMT 7
I normally save some months of salary before transferring it back home because I can more easily and cheaper buy ETFs there.
That was great the past years when the Baht was strong. Looking at the current fx rates, however, the money saved three months ago would now be worth 6% less if I transferred it back home now, which is a year of returns in the stock market (assuming conservative returns on something like MSCI World).
Is there any way to avoid that while still being invested in the market?
Would any of the following make any difference (at least temporarily to "park" the money), instead of transferring THB > EUR and investing in the EU: 1. Transferring THB > SGD to Interactive Brokers account and buy SPDR S&P500 ETF listed at the SGX because THB to SGD has less decreased than THB to EUR/USD; 2. Keeping THB in Thailand and buying SCBS&P500-SSF equity fund from SCB which is investing in the IShares Core S&P 500 ETF at the NYSE Or would this all be the same at the end of the day because all those underlying funds are in USD anyway so there would be some currency risk? Am I overcomplicating this?
(PS: And I am aware that the SCBS&P500-SSF has a disgustingly high management fee of up to 3% though it currently is at <1%)
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Post by AyG on Oct 3, 2021 7:36:23 GMT 7
(1) SCBS&P500-SFF is currency-hedged, to wit, "the Fund will invest or acquire the Futures Contract to hedge the risk of exchange rate of securities or property in foreign currency held by the Fund compared with Baht currency at a period of time of not less than 90% of the asset value invested in foreign country."
This may, or may not, be a plus for you. Personally, I never buy currency-hedged funds. It's an additional expense.
(2) The management fee for this fund, as with pretty much all Thai funds, is written as a maximum rate. I guess that's to protect the asset management firm. Note there's also a brokerage fee, currently 0.1%, on all buys and sells.
(3) Not sure why you'd want to buy a Singapore-listed S&P 500 fund. I haven't checked, but a US-listed one will almost certainly be cheaper.
(4) If you do buy offshore, it might be sensible to buy a fund denominated in the currency in which you'll eventually spend the proceeds from the investment, so only be hit once with an FX cost, rather than twice.
(5) A quick glance, and it looks like the SPDR in Singapore is denominated in USD, not SGD. Or, at least, there's a USD version available there.
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Post by AyG on Oct 3, 2021 8:46:02 GMT 7
A bit more info.:
The Singapore ETF is traded in USD (only). It has a TER of 0.0945%.
The cheapest US ETFs (SPLG, VOO, IVV) have expense ratios of around 0.03%. Not an enormous difference. However, you also need to consider the bid/offer spread. The US market is almost certainly going to be much more liquid than Singapore for this type of ETF, so the bid/offer spread should be significantly tighter.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 4, 2021 20:47:32 GMT 7
My best advice, carry on as you are, think of it as nothing more than dollar cost averaging, it still costs you the same amount in baht each month.
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