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Post by chiangmai on Nov 29, 2023 14:01:48 GMT 7
Indeed an interesting read which I think is mainly conjecture based on the lines of a Nostradamus prophecy. Remember, experts know very little about a great deal, and specialists know a great deal about very little. Or it could be based upon fiscal manipulators ongoing and future market control plans... I'll now go and don my shiny tin foil hat. Hmmm, it's 62 pages long, it took me half a day to read and understand 50% of it in the first pass! If you were able to conclude on it in under an hour, bravo. It's been compiled by a securities house that's connected to SCB, it's about as a good of an analysis as you'll find anywhere.
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Post by siampolee on Dec 1, 2023 11:25:17 GMT 7
I have a very suspicious mind concerning statement probably due to many a year as a SB plod.
However look at the link below, and again it confirms my opinion that in truth nobody knows which way the fiscal winds are a blowing or going to be a blowing...
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 1, 2023 12:08:44 GMT 7
I have a very suspicious mind concerning statement probably due to many a year as a SB plod. However look at the link below, and again it confirms my opinion that in truth nobody knows which way the fiscal winds are a blowing or going to be a blowing... I could expend a lot of time and energy and sift through each point in the article but I've not going to, I've read it and it's a cherry pick of statements that don't paint a balanced picture of the risks or even the current economic environment. I think it's really important to read the right things if you want to understand the true picture, reading articles such as this one that are published by an expat focussed, Thai online news desk, have no credibility and almost certainly have underlying agenda's. Sufficient to say, the opening three paragraph says it all for me, that's the way it is. If anyone wants to go any deeper into any of this, you have to raise it point by point and look into each one, one at a time.
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 3, 2023 11:12:05 GMT 7
Here the summary of US equity markets estimates for 2024, by all the major players, within there are links to the individual banks explaining their thinking. JP Morgan, the biggest forecaster, estimates a 10/15% fall in the S&P, virtually all the other players forecast a flat of raising market by amounts up to 10%. Sure, this is all crystal ball stuff but it's best guesses based on analysis and forethought rather than something merely pulled out of a dark warm place. So why is that Baht relevant? Because it will give you an idea what is likely in store for the US markets which is home to the almighty USD and is also Thailand's biggest single export market. FWIW, every global forecast I have read, all say pretty much the same thing in that Asia and the Far East economies will all outperform Western economies by a significant margin, in 2024. It's clear to me from looking at global equities investment funds that Fund Manager believe these things are true, very few hold more than 60% in US market assets and all are increasingly spread across other regions, whereas a year ago, that picture was much more US markets centric. Plus JMP is putting it's money where its mouth is, my JPM equities fund holdings are 22% in Cash! markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/2024-stock-market-investment-outlooks-wall-street-prediction-roundup-sp500-2023-11
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Post by rubl on Dec 3, 2023 14:09:16 GMT 7
So, how will Donny Trump, GOP Trumpians (aka RINOs) and MAGA fool antics effect our Thai Baht?
PS anyone knows when the new Tesla cybertruck will be available in Thailand? It's bulletproof, heavy, 2.42m wide and the top model costs only 99,999 US$.
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 3, 2023 15:16:35 GMT 7
99,999 US, my, everyone will be driving 'em then!
How will Donny effect the baht, hmmm,a good question.
Almost certainly USd will fall in value under Trump, just as it did before. Trump is not known for his economic reform, just his rhetoric. USD, like any currency, likes certainty and Trump doesn't provide that, expect USD/THB at sub 30 once again.
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Post by qece on Dec 3, 2023 16:14:31 GMT 7
A modest and humble lifestyle is key. Stop playing their game and falling into the trap...
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 5, 2023 6:42:43 GMT 7
The US Dollar Index is like a schizoid who keeps forgetting to take their meds. Up and down continuously, bulls vs bears alternately believing that the Fed is done raising rates, inflation is coming under control, rates will begin to fall early next year and that normal service is being resumed. Yesterday and today they think it isn't, tomorrow they will probably think it is, a financial markets pantomime.
The consensus for next year is:
1) Rates will begin to fall, somewhere between first and second quarter is the start of that race, how far and how fast they fall will depend on the speed of the economy and recession.
2) There will be a global synchronised economic slowdown next year, nowhere will be immune, how much and how far depends on the above but the starting gun has already been fired.
3) US markets are overvalued, China is undervalued, as the latter surges, Thailand will benefit.
4) Geopolitical risk remains high and may make things worse suddenly. Ukraine/Russia is at a stalemate and nobody wants to negotiate, the risk that Russia will do something even more stupid is high. The ME is a large open gunpowder keg and there are kids running around it with lighted candles.
5) Political risk is also high. The prospect of a Trump win in November has increased, this will be negative for the global economy and for USD. The UK also preparing a welcome mat for the first labour government in years, this will be negative for the UK economy and the Pound but at least the population will be happier. BoT is forecast to increase rates later this year in order to contain forecasted inflation, ouch. THB stands has the potential to make some big gains as a result, watch out. The effects of El Nino on agriculture in Thailand remains a wild card but increasingly look negative.
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Post by rubl on Dec 5, 2023 8:31:57 GMT 7
"global synchronised economic slowdown"
That sounds like an orchestrated plot of what some call the 'globalists' who allegedly work on a 'new world order'.
BTW there's a hype against CBDCs (aka Central Bank Digital Currency). Allegedly it's another plot to keep track of all our actions and control our everyday life. Theory seems mostly pushed by bitcoin and other dodgy coin lovers who prefer those for various 'nobel' reasons, like speculation, whitewashing, 'release of your data' fee and in general the "don't give a sucker an even break".
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 5, 2023 8:40:53 GMT 7
I think it's more a case of, if you place weight on one end of the seesaw, the other end will else, it's as simple as that.
As for orchestration by CB's and giving suckers an even break....oh pulease!
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Post by rubl on Dec 5, 2023 9:05:37 GMT 7
I think it's more a case of, if you place weight on one end of the seesaw, the other end will else, it's as simple as that. As for orchestration by CB's and giving suckers an even break....oh pulease! Don't know why but I just thought that would be against your principles.
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Post by chiangmai on Dec 5, 2023 9:24:02 GMT 7
I think it's more a case of, if you place weight on one end of the seesaw, the other end will else, it's as simple as that. As for orchestration by CB's and giving suckers an even break....oh pulease! Don't know why but I just thought that would be against your principles. Harsh and cutting, how impolite, I'm deeply deeply offended.....I shall expect a case of the finest orange juice or similar for Xmas, by way of recompense. The truth is, I don't buy into these conspiracy theories, I think to do so confirms a fundamental lack of understanding, particularly where CB's are concerned. Of course CB's work in unison at times, on specific issues, curtailing tax evasion, currency support, calming market jitters and so on. But to imagine that CB's are part of a concerted eveil global plot to contain and restrain the small guy, poohey.
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Post by rubl on Dec 5, 2023 13:38:45 GMT 7
Don't know why but I just thought that would be against your principles. Harsh and cutting, how impolite, I'm deeply deeply offended.....I shall expect a case of the finest orange juice or similar for Xmas, by way of recompense. The truth is, I don't buy into these conspiracy theories, I think to do so confirms a fundamental lack of understanding, particularly where CB's are concerned. Of course CB's work in unison at times, on specific issues, curtailing tax evasion, currency support, calming market jitters and so on. But to imagine that CB's are part of a concerted eveil global plot to contain and restrain the small guy, poohey. Some use those conspiracy theories as base to evaluate and expand their thoughts and come to 'interesting' conclusions. 'feet of clay' comes to mind. PS orange juice is too sweet. I'll make it a box of Vit-C tablets.
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 5, 2023 13:55:10 GMT 7
I sent a wad of cash over on Sunday...wot rate am I getting?
Plz say 70 or 75 ......!
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Post by rubl on Dec 5, 2023 14:03:38 GMT 7
I sent a wad of cash over on Sunday...wot rate am I getting? Plz say 70 or 75 ......! If it's to the account I told you you'll get the sucker of the year award and I'll send you a postcard from my cruiseship.
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