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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 1:10:16 GMT 7
I've never smoked, and I've never been on the "damn all smokers to hell," side of the debate. Yes, at times I found myself having to leave pubs in the bad old days due to cigarettes, and a couple of trips to the bingo with my Mum were too much for me. I agree that you shouldn't be able to smoke on a flight, but I think the way smokers are treated in many airports is tantamount to victimization. E-cigs? don't bother me in the slightest - and yet they get treated the same as regular fags by the airlines - from the LA Times: www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-tr-spot-20150830-story.html Question: Recently, I flew into L.A. on a nonstop flight from Paris. During the flight, a guy at the other end of my center row smoked an e-cigarette very secretively. He would cover the e-cig in his hand, suck it lightly, exhale slowly, then put it back in his pocket. I informed a flight attendant. She walked up and down the aisle to observe him but didn't see anything. I contacted the airline and was told that the attendant had to witness the act in order to do anything. What can legally be done when someone secretly smokes an e-cig on board? I think airline policies need to keep up with changes in technology. |
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 1, 2015 2:33:01 GMT 7
They should have a small aircon room on some flights in place of the loo for smokers.
But no....the anti smoking brigade want it snuffed out completely so its better to have them puffing away in the toilets and getting arrested etc....
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Post by Soutpeel on Sept 1, 2015 6:49:23 GMT 7
I've never smoked, and I've never been on the "damn all smokers to hell," side of the debate. Yes, at times I found myself having to leave pubs in the bad old days due to cigarettes, and a couple of trips to the bingo with my Mum were too much for me. I agree that you shouldn't be able to smoke on a flight, but I think the way smokers are treated in many airports is tantamount to victimization. E-cigs? don't bother me in the slightest - and yet they get treated the same as regular fags by the airlines - from the LA Times: www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-tr-spot-20150830-story.html Question: Recently, I flew into L.A. on a nonstop flight from Paris. During the flight, a guy at the other end of my center row smoked an e-cigarette very secretively. He would cover the e-cig in his hand, suck it lightly, exhale slowly, then put it back in his pocket. I informed a flight attendant. She walked up and down the aisle to observe him but didn't see anything. I contacted the airline and was told that the attendant had to witness the act in order to do anything. What can legally be done when someone secretly smokes an e-cig on board? I think airline policies need to keep up with changes in technology. I have been using an e-cig for nearly 8 months and it has kept me off the normal cigs, and I think the issue with airlines with something new, they don't know how new technology will impact a flight, think mobile phones - for years the myth has been around, switch on a mobile phone in the air and the plane will fall out the sky, so what did they do...they banned them being switched on, as time as gone on...we have gone from being switched off at all times, to switched off during take off and landings to having them in flight safe mode, one suspects it will not be long before no gives a crap. Same with E-cigs....they don't know what to make of them "so lets just put them in the same class as cigarettes", fact is the "smoke" that comes out of an e-cig is comprised mainly of water vapour, doesn't stink and has less potential to burst in flames than your average power bank/lap top or mobile phone due to the batteries overheating. there is also the psychological effect regarding other passengers, they see someone "spark" up an e-cig, see clouds of "smoke" and some will freak out. the other thing with them...they don't set off smoke alarms in use, or they don't as far as I can see, and I have tested this (not on plane) What can be done legally ?....as the current rules stand...the same as someone getting caught smoking real cigarettes on a plane, as they do tell tell you...smoking including the use of e-cigarettes is prohibited...but I do understand the point they need to catch somebody in the act dong it |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 16:36:43 GMT 7
They should have a small aircon room on some flights in place of the loo for smokers. But no....the anti smoking brigade want it snuffed out completely so its better to have them puffing away in the toilets and getting arrested etc.... Would you pay extra to get access to said space on a flight? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 16:37:48 GMT 7
I've never smoked, and I've never been on the "damn all smokers to hell," side of the debate. Yes, at times I found myself having to leave pubs in the bad old days due to cigarettes, and a couple of trips to the bingo with my Mum were too much for me. I agree that you shouldn't be able to smoke on a flight, but I think the way smokers are treated in many airports is tantamount to victimization. E-cigs? don't bother me in the slightest - and yet they get treated the same as regular fags by the airlines - from the LA Times: www.latimes.com/travel/deals/la-tr-spot-20150830-story.html Question: Recently, I flew into L.A. on a nonstop flight from Paris. During the flight, a guy at the other end of my center row smoked an e-cigarette very secretively. He would cover the e-cig in his hand, suck it lightly, exhale slowly, then put it back in his pocket. I informed a flight attendant. She walked up and down the aisle to observe him but didn't see anything. I contacted the airline and was told that the attendant had to witness the act in order to do anything. What can legally be done when someone secretly smokes an e-cig on board? I think airline policies need to keep up with changes in technology. I have been using an e-cig for nearly 8 months and it has kept me off the normal cigs, and I think the issue with airlines with something new, they don't know how new technology will impact a flight, think mobile phones - for years the myth has been around, switch on a mobile phone in the air and the plane will fall out the sky, so what did they do...they banned them being switched on, as time as gone on...we have gone from being switched off at all times, to switched off during take off and landings to having them in flight safe mode, one suspects it will not be long before no gives a crap. Same with E-cigs....they don't know what to make of them "so lets just put them in the same class as cigarettes", fact is the "smoke" that comes out of an e-cig is comprised mainly of water vapour, doesn't stink and has less potential to burst in flames than your average power bank/lap top or mobile phone due to the batteries overheating. there is also the psychological effect regarding other passengers, they see someone "spark" up an e-cig, see clouds of "smoke" and some will freak out. the other thing with them...they don't set off smoke alarms in use, or they don't as far as I can see, and I have tested this (not on plane) What can be done legally ?....as the current rules stand...the same as someone getting caught smoking real cigarettes on a plane, as they do tell tell you...smoking including the use of e-cigarettes is prohibited...but I do understand the point they need to catch somebody in the act dong it How are you getting on with the e-cigs? you feeling better? My pals all report that they are, but that they have no replaced one addiction with another. |
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Post by Soutpeel on Sept 1, 2015 17:47:35 GMT 7
I have been using an e-cig for nearly 8 months and it has kept me off the normal cigs, and I think the issue with airlines with something new, they don't know how new technology will impact a flight, think mobile phones - for years the myth has been around, switch on a mobile phone in the air and the plane will fall out the sky, so what did they do...they banned them being switched on, as time as gone on...we have gone from being switched off at all times, to switched off during take off and landings to having them in flight safe mode, one suspects it will not be long before no gives a crap. Same with E-cigs....they don't know what to make of them "so lets just put them in the same class as cigarettes", fact is the "smoke" that comes out of an e-cig is comprised mainly of water vapour, doesn't stink and has less potential to burst in flames than your average power bank/lap top or mobile phone due to the batteries overheating. there is also the psychological effect regarding other passengers, they see someone "spark" up an e-cig, see clouds of "smoke" and some will freak out. the other thing with them...they don't set off smoke alarms in use, or they don't as far as I can see, and I have tested this (not on plane) What can be done legally ?....as the current rules stand...the same as someone getting caught smoking real cigarettes on a plane, as they do tell tell you...smoking including the use of e-cigarettes is prohibited...but I do understand the point they need to catch somebody in the act dong it How are you getting on with the e-cigs? you feeling better? My pals all report that they are, but that they have no replaced one addiction with another. honestly yes... over the years I have gone from 40 a day (back in he days you could smoke in offices/work) down to 20, and last couple of years down do 10-15 day, but could never quite kick it completely, even after trying the nicotine patches/chewing gum/cold turkey and even a course of Champix. The champix stopped me cold turkey for the duration of course of tablets, but made the mistake of going out on the lash with a few mates, made through most of the night, lashings of beer and towards the end of the night, thought to myself I will just have one, I have cracked this smoking lark....big mistake  so upto that point my record was 6 weeks and using an E-cig my record is now 7 months and counting, not coughing my lungs up in the morning any more and my chest feels "clear" yes your right replaced one habit with another, what your suppose to do as regards the nicotine addiction is to taper off the milligram content in the juice, ie start at 12mg down to 6mg and finally 0 mg, do that for a while and your nicotine addiction should be over, then its just the case or breaking the "physical habit" So as I sit right now... its working for me, although still stuck on 6mg juice.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 18:42:38 GMT 7
^^ Well done - they do say the nicotine ain't the problem, it's the other tar and muck. Getting that out of your system is excellent.
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 1, 2015 20:20:01 GMT 7
They should have a small aircon room on some flights in place of the loo for smokers. But no....the anti smoking brigade want it snuffed out completely so its better to have them puffing away in the toilets and getting arrested etc.... Would you pay extra to get access to said space on a flight? Almost if not all of the smokers on a long haul flight would. Have a cashier by the door . |
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