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Post by AyG on Sept 2, 2015 11:07:16 GMT 7
I've lived with the tiny, Thai-style kitchen for a few years now, and have finally taken the plunge to get it extended. (The builder will knock out one wall and build an extension which will double the kitchen's size.)
Anyway, the builder is also going to remove all the existing concrete furniture and I'll buy some nice cabinets to replace them. However, I'm not exactly sure of a few points:
(1) Would you normally tile the whole floor and then put the cabinets on the tiles? Or do you tile around the cabinets?
(2) Similarly, do you tile behind wall mounted cabinets? Or tile around them?
(3) The wall will be damaged when the concrete furniture is removed. How can that be repaired? (I'm also contemplating removing all the tiles which go up to the roof, so potentially the whole wall will need to be resurfaced. Would I be better off tiling on top of the existing tiles?)
I've never done anything like this before, and am pretty clueless, so any pointers much appreciated.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 2, 2015 11:16:18 GMT 7
If I remember correctly you are in Bkk?
If so, make sure the extension is properly supported, have see way too many extensions done in Bkk where after a few years the extension starts pulling away from the original building.
To answer you questions,
1.Yes, tile the whole floor
2.Yes, tile the whole wall then mount the cabinets.
3.No, do exactly what you plan to do, remove and replace all tiles.
What kind of wall is it, brick? just refill and render.
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Post by AyG on Sept 2, 2015 12:41:38 GMT 7
Thanks for the tiling information. I was thinking of using natural slate tiles for the floor. Is the surface unevenness going to cause a problem for the cabinets? Would I be better off going for flat, ceramic tiles?
And yup. This is for Bangkok.
Subsidence was a big concern of mine. Pretty much every house in the moobaan has a kitchen extension, and at least 50% have pulled away from the house in a matter of months. The neighbours have about a 5 cm gap at the top. Their builder's final solution was to cover the gap with black sticky tape. Looks terrible. My builder is recommending 20 hexagonal, reinforced pilings (if that's the right word), 6 metres long, 16 centimetres in diameter. They'll be in four groups supporting each corner of the horizontal beams under the walls. That's for an extension area of 2.7 x 3.4 metres. Does that sound reasonable? (It was the more expensive of the two options he proposed).
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 2, 2015 16:40:02 GMT 7
Thanks for the tiling information. I was thinking of using natural slate tiles for the floor. Is the surface unevenness going to cause a problem for the cabinets? Would I be better off going for flat, ceramic tiles? And yup. This is for Bangkok. Subsidence was a big concern of mine. Pretty much every house in the moobaan has a kitchen extension, and at least 50% have pulled away from the house in a matter of months. The neighbours have about a 5 cm gap at the top. Their builder's final solution was to cover the gap with black sticky tape. Looks terrible. My builder is recommending 20 hexagonal, reinforced pilings (if that's the right word), 6 metres long, 16 centimetres in diameter. They'll be in four groups supporting each corner of the horizontal beams under the walls. That's for an extension area of 2.7 x 3.4 metres. Does that sound reasonable? (It was the more expensive of the two options he proposed). 1, no not a problem as long as the installer knows his job. 2, builder didnt know what he was doing, the extension should have been tied into the original wall, by tied in I mean, rebar should have been inserted into the original retaining wall before new wall was built, dont know the height but I would expect it to have been tied in at least 4 times, with the rebar at different heights from the floor to the roof. 3, 20 ?, no doubt it will do the job, but seems like overkill. 20 pilings is about right for a total house build, sometimes only 16 are used. 4, what about supporting the new floor. Any more questions just fire away. |
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Post by AyG on Sept 5, 2015 14:52:39 GMT 7
This may be a really stupid question, but could I just tile from part of the way up the wall upwards? Nobody will ever see the tiles behind the cabinets, so it seems like a waste of money.
(I think this may be a stupid question, because I suspect tiles need to be supported from below, not just stuck on the wall.)
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 5, 2015 22:17:19 GMT 7
^^^^, no not a problem just tile upwards using new tiles.
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Post by me on Sept 6, 2015 2:15:21 GMT 7
^^^^, no not a problem just tile upwards using new tiles. E Best to get someone who can glue the tiles and not just use cement etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 12:48:51 GMT 7
Don't believe the Thais don't use tile glue story, tile glue is strong as fk, much better than cement.
Yes you can tile over tiles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2015 12:55:09 GMT 7
My bil in Australia is a tiler/stonemason. If you need any questions answered people here aren't sure of, I'm happy to ask him. Here's a pic of his work. .. |
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