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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 9, 2015 18:42:25 GMT 7

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What would the Queen have said in the event of nuclear war? An explanation here:

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/queen-elizabeth-ii-becomes-longest-reigning-monarch-this-is-what-the-queen-would-have-said-in-the-event-of-a-nuclear-war-10491940.html?cmpid=facebook-post

And the speech -

When I spoke to you less than three months ago we were all enjoying the warmth and fellowship of a family Christmas. Our thoughts were concentrated on the strong links that bind each generation to the ones that came before and those that will follow. The horrors of war could not have seemed more remote as my family and I shared our Christmas joy with the growing family of the Commonwealth.

Now this madness of war is once more spreading through the world and our brave country must again prepare itself to survive against great odds.

I have never forgotten the sorrow and pride I felt as my sister and I huddled around the nursery wireless set listening to my father’s inspiring words on that fateful day in 1939. Not for a single moment did I imagine that this solemn and awful duty would one day fall to me.

We all know that the dangers facing us today are greater by far than at any time in our long history. The enemy is not the soldier with his rifle nor even the airman prowling the skies above our cities and towns but the deadly power of abused technology.

But whatever terrors lie in wait for us all the qualities that have helped to keep our freedom intact twice already during this sad century will once more be our strength.

My husband and I share with families up and down the land the fear we feel for sons and daughters, husbands and brothers who have left our side to serve their country. My beloved son Andrew is at this moment in action with his unit and we pray continually for his safety and for the safety of all servicemen and women at home and overseas.

It is this close bond of family life that must be our greatest defence against the unknown. If families remain united and resolute, giving shelter to those living alone and unprotected, our country’s will to survive cannot be broken.

My message to you therefore is simple. Help those who cannot help themselves, give comfort to the lonely and the homeless and let your family become the focus of hope and life to those who need it.

As we strive together to fight off the new evil let us pray for our country and men of goodwill wherever they may be.

God bless you all.

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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 9, 2015 19:04:21 GMT 7

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I remember being fearful of nuclear war when I was growing up. I joined the TA while doing my engineering apprenticeship ( I joined the Royal Engineers ) as I did "fear," a Russian attack. If there was going to be a war, I would have rather been on the front line. During our training we were told that our life expectancy in wartime/front line, would be twenty-four hours. When you see some of the weaponry deployed you could see why:

Fine - that's the risk you take when you sign up. Hollywood did a good job of terrifying us all:

The movie that unsettled me most was Planet of the Apes -

And these days - kids look at you as if you were daft when you mention the threat of nuclear war as it was:

buhi Crazy Mango Extraordinaire Posts: 4,846 Likes: 1,431	HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 9, 2015 19:16:34 GMT 7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by buhi on Sept 9, 2015 19:16:34 GMT 7 Hence terrorism!

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smokie36 Vigilante Posts: 15,664 Likes: 9,067	HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 1:03:30 GMT 7 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by smokie36 on Sept 10, 2015 1:03:30 GMT 7 Fascinating...what year was it penned?
	Are we there yet??

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No doubt a number of things have changed over the years but in the event of a nuclear war or a massive conflict from outside the country or from within via a terrorist action etc or a break down in civil order the plans made were indeed very comprehensive in what could be done and how it would be done and who would be implementing those actions to contain the issue and to ensure society did not break down completely.

If you were innocent but in the wrong place(s) at the wrong time your chance(s) of survival would be and no doubt still are, slim.

Socialism will never take root in the UK because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 7:23:20 GMT 7

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Sept 9, 2015 19:04:21 GMT 7 @theblether said:

I remember being fearful of nuclear war when I was growing up. I joined the TA while doing my engineering apprenticeship ( I joined the Royal Engineers ) as I did "fear," a Russian attack. If there was going to be a war, I would have rather been on the front line. During our training we were told that our life expectancy in wartime/front line, would be twenty-four hours. When you see some of the weaponry deployed you could see why:

Fine - that's the risk you take when you sign up. Hollywood did a good job of terrifying us all:

The movie that unsettled me most was Planet of the Apes -

And these days - kids look at you as if you were daft when you mention the threat of nuclear war as it was:

I would much prefer to be up against the British modern GMLRS than the Russian WW2 Katyusha (Stalin's organ).
The Katyusha is nowhere near as accurate as the GMLRS but the sheer numbers of Katyushas and their rate of fire more than made up for this.
In a combat situation, as well as the firepower of the Katyushas you would also be under bombardment by regular artillery, air strikes and localized tanks & infantry.
This is chaos on a grand scale and is enough devastation to force a man to empty breakfast into his pants.

The attached footage shows the Katyusha in action in WW2, since then the Katyusha has been constantly developed for greater accuracy and a larger caliber.
The Katyusha and many of its variants are still in use with Soviet forces and their allies and has taken part in every major war since WW2.

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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 9:23:41 GMT 7

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Sept 9, 2015 20:43:30 GMT 7 @theblether said:

Sept 9, 2015 19:16:34 GMT 7 buhi said:

Hence terrorism!

Explain

I am no expert on war, that stated:

Mutual assured destruction, or mutually assured destruction (MAD), is a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy in which a full-scale use of high-yield weapons of mass destruction by two or more opposing sides would cause the complete annihilation of both the attacker and the defender .

Hence proxy wars in the cold war period, Korea, Vietnam the obvious examples.

Vietnam saw the development of terrorist attacks; no massed armies , fighting on a battlefield, guerilla tactics. This has since become the modern method of extremists operating under cover.

My satangs worth. Too big an issue to develop at length. But forget a Waterloo, meet you tomorrow on a battlefield scenario.

Counter terrorism uses the same tactics now, aided with undercover operatives and drones. Plus sophisticated precision strikes by air.

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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 9:46:11 GMT 7

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Post by rubl on Sept 10, 2015 9:46:11 GMT 7

The 80-sh seems to have been the decade we were closest to a full-scale Nuclear War and the realisation that it would be utter madness

Have a look at the following movie:

1986 - When the Wind Blows (Nuclear Disaster, cartoon)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Wind_Blows_(1986_film)

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HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 10:02:05 GMT 7

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Also interesting and set in an environment our British members will recognise

1984 - Threads
"A docudrama account of nuclear war and its effects on the city of Sheffield in Northern England. A jointl production by the BBC, Nine Network and Western-World Television Inc."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threads

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0 Likes:	HMQ's Nuclear War Speech - Sept 10, 2015 11:46:09 GMT 7 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 11:46:09 GMT 7 And I'll be safe and warm in my royal bunker. No no don't say that bit Liz. But it's true Phil.

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	Socialism will never take root in the UK because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

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