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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 1, 2015 23:59:27 GMT 7
^^^, , great stuff, I am getting a fishing pole and going pulling tiddlers out of klong san saep. Yeah idiots straight out of uni, wankas. Bit like our favourite HSE types, got my bit of paper, I am more qualified than you, have at it muppet.
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Post by Soutpeel on Oct 2, 2015 0:01:56 GMT 7
Its called captitalism, its cheaper to import from overseas. Hence why I will never understand the Jocks heading head over heels into Europe, lets throw Scots on the dole, its cheaper to import Polish coal. Thousands upon thousands, sure I agree, tell Billy Big Yin Conolly his skills are no longer required and he should retrain or get an apprenticeship as a IT worker. Tell the Red Leaders ( by red leaders I mean the guys painting red lead onto ships) they can retrain as IFAs, jeez you couldnt make this shyt up. When I was at school engineers had degrees, others went to college and graduated with HNDs or ONC or tradesmen had C&G or advanced C&G. Have never heard of apprentice engineer, do you mean tradesman? As in Electrician or plumber? In my line of work we had, labourers, unskilled mechanics,mechanics, skilled mechanics, technicians and engineers. Sorry to be pedantic. Mechanical and maintenance to be precise, shorthand woud be fitter. From memory I did an HNC - but the brutal truth of the matter is, I hated every minute of that job. To be honest you cant infer Engineer on the back of an HNC, an HNC will get you credits at a university, been through all this.. before i did my degree, i had done a Higher National Diploma which is the same as an HNC in the UK, what it did get me was enough credit to skip 1st year Uni and go straight to 2nd year of a 3 year degree, but what i did find i was more practically savvy than those who had gone straight to Uni
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Post by Soutpeel on Oct 2, 2015 0:06:56 GMT 7
^^^, , great stuff, I am getting a fishing pole and going pulling tiddlers out of klong san saep. Yeah idiots straight out of uni, wankas. Bit like our favourite HSE types, got my bit of paper, I am more qualified than you, have at it muppet. Christ dont get me started on HSE numpties in 25 odd years i can count the ones who where worth a f on less than one hand
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 0:08:53 GMT 7
^^ I'm only going with the job title I applied for - Mechanical & Maintenance Engineer. It's a moot point as it was a waste of time for me - I have zero desire to be involved in engineering in any way - and that drove my Dad nuts. He's a millionaire through engineering related activities. I remember at the time I was accepted to do a travel & tourism course at Bell College - and left to me, that's the choice I would have made. Nah - "you'll be an engineer," said my Dad. He didn't speak to me for a year after I packed it in. Oh well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 0:10:12 GMT 7
^^^, , great stuff, I am getting a fishing pole and going pulling tiddlers out of klong san saep. Yeah idiots straight out of uni, wankas. Bit like our favourite HSE types, got my bit of paper, I am more qualified than you, have at it muppet. Christ dont get me started on HSE numpties in 25 odd years i can count the ones who where worth a f on less than one hand HSE was the reason my Dad sold his company - what was being asked of his company was anti-business.
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Post by Soutpeel on Oct 2, 2015 0:18:34 GMT 7
Christ dont get me started on HSE numpties in 25 odd years i can count the ones who where worth a f on less than one hand HSE was the reason my Dad sold his company - what was being asked of his company was anti-business. Dont get me wrong HSE has its place and i am a big believer in practical safety...but for the most part the people involved in HSE these days are mentally ill..no jokes...half my working life is fighting the HSE numpties who have cause mayhem because they dont know what thay talking about...but i am lucky in one sense if they go too far i can run the fkers off
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2015 0:34:00 GMT 7
HSE was the reason my Dad sold his company - what was being asked of his company was anti-business. Dont get me wrong HSE has its place and i am a big believer in practical safety...but for the most part the people involved in HSE these days are mentally ill..no jokes...half my working life is fighting the HSE numpties who have cause mayhem because they dont know what thay talking about...but i am lucky in one sense if they go too far i can run the fkers off Yup - and my Dad agrees it has it's place - he's had to deal with plenty of deaths in his day. 1.) Marampa, Sierra Leone - eight locals were instructed to dig a trench at the iron ore mine he worked at, they did so without bracing the sides - it collapsed, all were killed. My Dad was the first white guy on the scene, 2.) Same place - military coup in Freetown. The mine manager ordered the fuel reserves be transferred into storge drums and locked in the store. The storeman went down to have a llok a bit later, lit a cigarette - boom. again, my Dad was the first white guy on the scene. 3.) Freetown, Sierra Leone - no gate on the elevator at the company accom tower. Dad's pal looked in to see what was taking the car so long - and was decapitated. 4.) British Steel Ravenscraig - Coke Ovens. Guy tied open the safety lock on the door machine. Ended up crushed between the machine and the doors - cooked and crushed alive. Again, my Dad was one of the first on the scene. That guy left six kids behind. HSE has it's place - but not when it becomes a barrier to business. This story traumatized the Scottish fire service - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15739209
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Post by Soutpeel on Oct 2, 2015 9:36:16 GMT 7
What would the oregon oracle call these, sanitation and enviormental engineers? Shit house mechanics me thinks
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Post by Soutpeel on Oct 2, 2015 9:45:02 GMT 7
Dont get me wrong HSE has its place and i am a big believer in practical safety...but for the most part the people involved in HSE these days are mentally ill..no jokes...half my working life is fighting the HSE numpties who have cause mayhem because they dont know what thay talking about...but i am lucky in one sense if they go too far i can run the fkers off Yup - and my Dad agrees it has it's place - he's had to deal with plenty of deaths in his day. 1.) Marampa, Sierra Leone - eight locals were instructed to dig a trench at the iron ore mine he worked at, they did so without bracing the sides - it collapsed, all were killed. My Dad was the first white guy on the scene, 2.) Same place - military coup in Freetown. The mine manager ordered the fuel reserves be transferred into storge drums and locked in the store. The storeman went down to have a llok a bit later, lit a cigarette - boom. again, my Dad was the first white guy on the scene. 3.) Freetown, Sierra Leone - no gate on the elevator at the company accom tower. Dad's pal looked in to see what was taking the car so long - and was decapitated. 4.) British Steel Ravenscraig - Coke Ovens. Guy tied open the safety lock on the door machine. Ended up crushed between the machine and the doors - cooked and crushed alive. Again, my Dad was one of the first on the scene. That guy left six kids behind. HSE has it's place - but not when it becomes a barrier to business. This story traumatized the Scottish fire service - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15739209 Saddest one i was indirectly involved with as regards the travasty of safety, not Thailand, 6-8 ton portable generator dropped on a guy from an overhead crane in a workshop..obviously killed... no payouts as he wasnt wearing his full PPE in this instance he never had a hard hat on !! and the company concerned got away with
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Post by me on Oct 2, 2015 11:22:19 GMT 7
Yup - and my Dad agrees it has it's place - he's had to deal with plenty of deaths in his day. 1.) Marampa, Sierra Leone - eight locals were instructed to dig a trench at the iron ore mine he worked at, they did so without bracing the sides - it collapsed, all were killed. My Dad was the first white guy on the scene, 2.) Same place - military coup in Freetown. The mine manager ordered the fuel reserves be transferred into storge drums and locked in the store. The storeman went down to have a llok a bit later, lit a cigarette - boom. again, my Dad was the first white guy on the scene. 3.) Freetown, Sierra Leone - no gate on the elevator at the company accom tower. Dad's pal looked in to see what was taking the car so long - and was decapitated. 4.) British Steel Ravenscraig - Coke Ovens. Guy tied open the safety lock on the door machine. Ended up crushed between the machine and the doors - cooked and crushed alive. Again, my Dad was one of the first on the scene. That guy left six kids behind. HSE has it's place - but not when it becomes a barrier to business. This story traumatized the Scottish fire service - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15739209 Saddest one i was indirectly involved with as regards the travasty of safety, not Thailand, 6-8 ton portable generator dropped on a guy from an overhead crane in a workshop..obviously killed... no payouts as he wasnt wearing his full PPE in this instance he never had a hard hat on !! and the company concerned got away with If a bussiness cannot pay its full costs environmental, personal and injury it has no place being in business. We may have less of certain things but I am convinced most would have a better lifestyle.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 2, 2015 15:10:41 GMT 7
Too be honest, hair splitting and semantics aside, I feel sorry for these kids, being sold down the river by the politicians. At least 3 years of their life wasted, to graduate with a poxy 2:2 in Media Studies that in reality is about as worthless as the paper its written on.
These qualifications are being devalued to such an extent, many wont be considered unless they have at least an MBA.
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