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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 2:07:30 GMT 7
I doubt you'll find the answers in cartel controlled Columbia old boy. How about heading home for a while? I really enjoy actual civilization, tired of all that wild west crap. I was actually protected by the mini cartel, when I was there living in a small village. It was kind of fun. I was professor de buseo, who was not to be hassled with. I did not know that before there was an small incident. I think the civiliaztion as I think about it, no longer exist even in my own country. There are plenty of clever people, but the society is getting more and more socialist, or communist. Not a place for me. One thing I worry is money. All the time. That is stupid, but that is also what I do. What would happen to a person, if he would not have any money left? I understand what you mean, the socialist stuff, especially in the Scandie countries, they've totally lost the plot. Lest we forget. Running out of money, it's like skydiving. When you jump out of the plane the ground looks such a long way off, but it doesn't half come up quick.
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Post by oilinki on Apr 10, 2015 2:19:11 GMT 7
Lest we forget. Running out of money, it's like skydiving. When you jump out of the plane the ground looks such a long way off, but it doesn't half come up quick. It might be, but is it really so? Thus my original question - what would happen? We have all taught an learned to take care of our own businesses. We have learned not to depend of others. Jumping to another environment, without money would put that ideology to a real test. Not just some environment, but to an environment, where people still have a sense of community and belonging together. I'm quite curious what would happen in that kind environment without money.
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 2:23:02 GMT 7
Lest we forget. Running out of money, it's like skydiving. When you jump out of the plane the ground looks such a long way off, but it doesn't half come up quick. It might be, but is it really so? Thus my original question - what would happen? We have all taught an learned to take care of our own businesses. We have learned not to depend of others. Jumping to another environment, without money would put that ideology to a real test. Not just some environment, but to an environment, where people still have a sense of community and belonging together. I'm quite curious what would happen in that kind environment without money. I'm not curious and I'm worried that you are. Perhaps best left to the imagination. What would happen if you ran out of money in Thailand? Same as that. For my pension provision I've put away a pack of Old Holborn a day into the lungs and I'm maintaining diabetes to minimize the risk of longevity much beyond fifty.
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Post by smokie36 on Apr 10, 2015 2:27:40 GMT 7
It might be, but is it really so? Thus my original question - what would happen? We have all taught an learned to take care of our own businesses. We have learned not to depend of others. Jumping to another environment, without money would put that ideology to a real test. Not just some environment, but to an environment, where people still have a sense of community and belonging together. I'm quite curious what would happen in that kind environment without money. I'm not curious and I'm worried that you are. Perhaps best left to the imagination. What would happen if you ran out of money in Thailand? Same as that. For my pension provision I've put away a pack of Old Holborn a day into the lungs and I'm maintaining diabetes to minimize the risk of longevity much beyond fifty. I foresee an army of mindless drones sitting in armchairs in 50 odd years listening to replays of Coldplay CD's while dribbling into their rusks and milk. Its one frightening and recurring nightmare......
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 2:29:10 GMT 7
I'm not curious and I'm worried that you are. Perhaps best left to the imagination. What would happen if you ran out of money in Thailand? Same as that. For my pension provision I've put away a pack of Old Holborn a day into the lungs and I'm maintaining diabetes to minimize the risk of longevity much beyond fifty. I foresee an army of mindless drones sitting in armchairs in 50 odd years listening to replays of Coldplay CD's while dribbling into their rusks and milk. Its one frightening and recurring nightmare...... Minus the rusks and milk. Pension ponzi scheme is approaching its terminus.
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Post by oilinki on Apr 10, 2015 2:37:36 GMT 7
I'm not curious and I'm worried that you are. Perhaps best left to the imagination. What would happen if you ran out of money in Thailand? Same as that. For my pension provision I've put away a pack of Old Holborn a day into the lungs and I'm maintaining diabetes to minimize the risk of longevity much beyond fifty. Don't worry I have always a backup plan. I can go to Norway and rob a bank and get few million euros out of that. Live a live for the fullest and when the money runs out after few decades, get back to Norway and confess my crime. Have you seen the prisons they have? Those offer far better environment, compared to elderly care in any country. For me the length of the life has never been something to look for, it's the quality of the life. Doing and learning. Currently I have been stagnated to Thailand, which is not too bad, nor it's a good life. I know there is a fear of change, which I want to overcome. Fear of what? Not being able to survive the life alive?
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 2:48:31 GMT 7
I'm not curious and I'm worried that you are. Perhaps best left to the imagination. What would happen if you ran out of money in Thailand? Same as that. For my pension provision I've put away a pack of Old Holborn a day into the lungs and I'm maintaining diabetes to minimize the risk of longevity much beyond fifty. Don't worry I have always a backup plan. I can go to Norway and rob a bank and get few million euros out of that. Live a live for the fullest and when the money runs out after few decades, get back to Norway and confess my crime. Have you seen the prisons they have? Those offer far better environment, compared to elderly care in any country. For me the length of the life has never been something to look for, it's the quality of the life. Doing and learning. Currently I have been stagnated to Thailand, which is not too bad, nor it's a good life. I know there is a fear of change, which I want to overcome. Fear of what? Not being able to survive the life alive? You need to get out of that place and go do something, arbeit macht frei, work makes you free. It's good to get back to work after a Thailand stagnation period. It's tough for a while mind. These days I never really have time to stagnate because the kids are demanding and gravity is very demanding on the house, which constantly needs re-building with wall putty. Not having anything to do there is very bad for your mental health, finances and your future. You must strike a balance.
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 2:49:48 GMT 7
Oh thanks for the tip on Norwegian care homes prisons. Might be an option.
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Post by Krisb on Apr 10, 2015 6:17:21 GMT 7
The question is actually. What would happen when the money runs out when there? Am I and are we all too afraid to take steps to the unknown simply because we are too afraid for what could happen? Damn fine question that one. Even moving to a new country with cash takes balls imo. Huge life change and respect to anyone that has done it, especially to a country like Colombia and especially with kids in tow. Thailand could be slightly different because it's my wife's home. So would I be afraid of that unknown, yes because of my child. Her wellbeing is paramount.
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Post by ATF on Apr 10, 2015 7:52:01 GMT 7
Change your surname to Escobar and everyone will leave you alone except the DEA.
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Post by oilinki on Apr 10, 2015 18:10:01 GMT 7
Damn fine question that one. Even moving to a new country with cash takes balls imo. Huge life change and respect to anyone that has done it, especially to a country like Colombia and especially with kids in tow. Thailand could be slightly different because it's my wife's home. So would I be afraid of that unknown, yes because of my child. Her wellbeing is paramount. Changing the environment is always some degree of starting a new life. It's the fastest way to renew oneself. Maybe risky, but highly rewarding. Colombia itself has it's troubles, but the people are one of the best I have seen anywhere. Moving with the kids is much, much more difficult than moving alone. Priorities change quite radically. But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money? I think that there is always some help available for the people who wish to survive.
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 18:13:28 GMT 7
Damn fine question that one. Even moving to a new country with cash takes balls imo. Huge life change and respect to anyone that has done it, especially to a country like Colombia and especially with kids in tow. Thailand could be slightly different because it's my wife's home. So would I be afraid of that unknown, yes because of my child. Her wellbeing is paramount. Changing the environment is always some degree of starting a new life. It's the fastest way to renew oneself. Maybe risky, but highly rewarding. Colombia itself has it's troubles, but the people are one of the best I have seen anywhere. Moving with the kids is much, much more difficult than moving alone. Priorities change quite radically. But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money? I think that there is always some help available for the people who wish to survive. But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money?
Safer to assume not.
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Post by Krisb on Apr 10, 2015 18:27:55 GMT 7
Changing the environment is always some degree of starting a new life. It's the fastest way to renew oneself. Maybe risky, but highly rewarding. Colombia itself has it's troubles, but the people are one of the best I have seen anywhere. Moving with the kids is much, much more difficult than moving alone. Priorities change quite radically. But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money? I think that there is always some help available for the people who wish to survive. But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money?
Safer to assume not. Yep I'd rather not find out what that situation in a strange land is like. I'd rather a 2 month holiday of bliss than a 2 year holiday of budget. Backpackers come close to the idea maybe. I never chose to try that choice out although I just remembered a packpacker hostel I stayed in Darwin Australia. Best parties those lot throw and met some of the best people ever. Still Oil, I appreciate the way you think mate!
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Post by The Arrow on Apr 10, 2015 18:31:54 GMT 7
But do you think that people, in all around the world would help one out, if a person runs out of money?
Safer to assume not. Yep I'd rather not find out what that situation in a strange land is like. I'd rather a 2 month holiday of bliss than a 2 year holiday of budget. Backpackers come close to the idea maybe. I never chose to try that choice out although I just remembered a packpacker hostel I stayed in Darwin Australia. Best parties those lot throw and met some of the best people ever. Still Oil, I appreciate the way you think mate! I live like a diseased dog regardless of global geographic position, so for me it'd just be much of the same. !
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Post by oilinki on Apr 10, 2015 19:56:04 GMT 7
Yep I'd rather not find out what that situation in a strange land is like. I'd rather a 2 month holiday of bliss than a 2 year holiday of budget. Backpackers come close to the idea maybe. I never chose to try that choice out although I just remembered a packpacker hostel I stayed in Darwin Australia. Best parties those lot throw and met some of the best people ever. Still Oil, I appreciate the way you think mate! I live like a diseased dog regardless of global geographic position, so for me it'd just be much of the same. LOL! As an recycled backpacker - for me it's much more important to be even slightly part of the environment and it's community, than to have a 5 star hotel holidays. I have spent probably a year in 5 star hotels and serviced suites, when traveling for work. Those places had nice services and occasional nice guests, like a flock of Singapore girls. But there was very little life inside. For me the life is in the streets with ordinary people. Poor people are generally nice. Rich people are the same. The middle class, is not, as they are always trying, trying, trying to get somewhere. Often without a clue of real target.
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