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Post by rubl on Jan 29, 2016 18:03:06 GMT 7
As everybody knows we all love the E.C., but not really in the "lock, stock and barrel" way. "The European Union is ignoring the Dutch referendum on Ukraine Ukraine and Brussels are busy implementing their treaty of association, even though it has not been fully ratified. The Dutch referendum on the treaty is being sidelined, write campaigners Thierry Baudet and Erik De Vlieger. ... If the Dutch government does not respond satisfactorily to these demands we will initiate summary proceedings to subpoena the Dutch state and use the legal route to make sure the democratic rights of Dutch citizens are respected. " www.dutchnews.nl/features/2016/01/83847/ |
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Post by siampolee on Jan 29, 2016 19:08:00 GMT 7
The sooner the E.U. crumbles the better, no more than a wonderful old politicians superannuation home so as to let them continue to draw exorbitant salaries and expense at the taxpayers expense whilst destroying other sovereign states and their residents freedom.
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Post by me on Jan 29, 2016 19:12:03 GMT 7
The sooner the E.U. crumbles the better, no more than a wonderful old politicians superannuation home so as to let them continue to draw exorbitant salaries and expense at the taxpayers expense whilst destroying other sovereign states and their residents freedom. Don't you like the Fourth Reich? |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jan 29, 2016 20:54:36 GMT 7
Never knew Ukraine was part of the EU.
Not my family not my problem.
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Post by me on Jan 29, 2016 23:30:15 GMT 7
Never knew Ukraine was part of the EU. Not my family not my problem. Yes the UK did not treat Australia much like family when they decided that joining it was the best thing since sliced bread.....seems to have gone a bit mouldy now. |
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Post by siampolee on Jan 30, 2016 7:45:28 GMT 7
Now the comment made by me was right on target. We had at the time and still do an association of the Commonwealth of Nations. They should have been our world wide trading political and strategic military posters, bit of tweaking here and there to adjust the links and aims and we would as well as our partners in such a set up been well on the way by now to a well established economic decent consolidated group of sovereign states in an economic, political and military format. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 9:39:30 GMT 7
Now the comment made by me was right on target. We had at the time and still do an association of the Commonwealth of Nations. They should have been our world wide trading political and strategic military posters, bit of tweaking here and there to adjust the links and aims and we would as well as our partners in such a set up been well on the way by now to a well established economic decent consolidated group of sovereign states in an economic, political and military format. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_NationsExcept the small fact that the natives didn't want to play. Australia was already looking beyond the Commonwealth and trying to link more closely with the US - a policy they have continued to this day. A policy that people ignore when they have a go at the UK for joining the EU. People are deluded if they think the Commonwealth club was going to be the economic answer. Far too many backward and minor economies to make any substantive difference to the international trading prospects of the UK. |
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Post by siampolee on Jan 30, 2016 10:11:36 GMT 7
Fast forward and compare the then and now scenario.
The natives now in the E.U. are financial liabilities and in the main do not want to play either. Far too many backward and minor economies to make any substantive difference to the international trading prospects of the UK.
At the time the Commonwealth club was a viable matter.I voted against entry into the Common Market as it was then known and my reasons have been proved correct as we so plainly see now.Increased tax burdens, interference in U.K. sovereign, legal and political systems, indeed the list is long.
Through the snake oil politician salesman Edward Heath we bought a ''pig in the poke in the poke'' regarding the Common Market/E.U. fiasco.
A great deal with a no money back clause but a delightful keep on paying out clause.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 10:23:02 GMT 7
Fast forward and compare the then and now scenario. The natives now in the E.U. are financial liabilities and in the main do not want to play either. Far too many backward and minor economies to make any substantive difference to the international trading prospects of the UK. At the time the Commonwealth club was a viable matter.I voted against entry into the Common Market as it was then known and my reasons have been proved correct as we so plainly see now.Increased tax burdens, interference in U.K. sovereign, legal and political systems, indeed the list is long. Through the snake oil politician salesman Edward Heath we bought a ''pig in the poke in the poke'' regarding the Common Market/E.U. fiasco. A great deal with a no money back clause but a delightful keep on paying out clause. I accept that what we were sold and what we got are two different things. I don't accept that the Commonwealth was the long term answer. We should trade with the whole world - not hem ourselves in. |
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Post by siampolee on Jan 30, 2016 10:32:27 GMT 7
Sadly our industrial base in the E.U. is now owned by the rest of the world due in many cases to the practices and rules of the E.U.
No physical products made or to trade in the rest of the world.
Intangible invisible products finance insurance etc are all very mobile and cannot be relied upon to keep the U.K. economy buoyant and the greater majority of the working population employed.
The sooner the U.K is out the better short term painful, long term prospects a lot better.
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