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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 22:14:32 GMT 7
Now because of some horrible reason and she's an old woman, aunt had a fall so I will around for a little bit.
Waiting for a call.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 22:16:07 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2016 22:17:43 GMT 7
The Mouth of Truth....
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Post by bowie on May 23, 2016 21:08:21 GMT 7
The positive aspect of visionary activity in mortality is a constant seeking after the revealed truths of imagination, which are comprehended in Jesus. “I know of no other Christianity” he writes “than the liberty both of body and mind to exercise the Divine Arts of Imagination … The Apostles knew of no other Gospel. What were all their spiritual gifts? What is the Divine Spirit? Is the Holy Ghost any other than an Intellectual Fountain? … What are the Treasures of Heaven which we are to lay up for ourselves? Are they any other than Mental [i.e. Imaginative] Studies and Performances? What are the Gifts of the Gospel? are they not all Mental Gifts?” What Blake states thus impressively in his prose, is stated under a bewildering variety of apparently unconnected symbolic episodes, in Jerusalem. Man, or Albion, is the battle-ground wherein the forces of imagination contend against the forces of natural religion: Jesus against Satan: Los against his spectre: Vala or Babylon against Jerusalem, till error is consumed and Albion reascends into the bosom of the Saviour. Yet, in spite of formlessness and incoherence in statement, the underlying body of doctrine is remarkably consistent. In the later Lambeth books, Blake seems to have written under a jaded inspiration. Here, however, the very intensity of his conviction and the fecundity of his imagination, militated against lucidity and order. Moreover, he deliberately adopted the symbolic medium as translating his visions with less of the distracting associations of ordinary experience than must have beset normal speech. And, if his visions were unintelligible, the fault lay in the reader, who had neglected to cultivate his imaginative faculty; in Blake’s sweeping condemnation, they were “fools” and “weak men,” not worth his care. Aesthetically, Jerusalem suffers much from this perversity, though the poet in Blake at times masters the stubborn mass of his symbolism, turning it for a brief space to forms of beauty or power. And there always remains the high nobility of the gospel which he proclaimed, and according to which he lived.
To back up my assertion that christian sourced values were revolutionary. Again I state I am not a christian ; an atheist buddhist, or more simply an existentialist.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 23, 2016 21:27:52 GMT 7
Jesus H, bowie, ever heard of paragraphs?
Must try better, a lame attempt, 3/10, see teacher.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 23, 2016 21:52:53 GMT 7
Have been thinking about my ramblings of yesterday. As a little community, mangos that is, we are all I think well educated. How is not my point. Reading the various replies on this thread, I think I can make that claim. I do not however believe we are in any way special, albeit that most of us are expats in one way or another. The common thing is education, the incredible amount of information, knowledge and ability to research and share.We all learn even more from each other. I do consider this a Western trait, of altruism. Dare go further and a christianity and classics have a played a major role in the values we share. Please do not think that is an endorsement of christianity, far from it. Those values free us to reject religious dogma. Compare to Thailand and the average Thai of a similar IQ to us mangos. Not sure if that is possible, but will assume IQ is not related to knowledge.Tricky, I am being brief as for sure problem solving skills are learnt. Not Thai bashing, but the general knowledge , global knowledge, is pitiful. I need to remind myself of this every day, simple general knowledge which I assume everyone has is in fact woefully missing in the average Thai. I am aware of the Thai education system and syllabus and how poor it is. Then I consider the English language heritage we have, where crticism and satire are ingrained. Would Shakespeare have dared to write if he were a modern day Thai? And name any of the authors quoted, would they have had the ability to delve into strange lands of imagination, logic and heresy. Watch Thai television. I think that was where my train of thought was going. Still ruminating. Bowie, years ago I used to frequent a bikers bar on the A1, this was a favorite at the time. I watch it again years later at SongKran, with a different viewpoint.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 23, 2016 21:56:37 GMT 7
"Emptiness"
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 22:04:31 GMT 7
Conan the Barbarian, lawd that brings back memories. The cutting off the head.
Arnie was in form back then.
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Post by bowie on May 23, 2016 22:04:32 GMT 7
Jesus H, bowie, ever heard of paragraphs? Must try better, a lame attempt, 3/10, see teacher. That was a quote, should have referenced it: The Cambridge History of English and American Literature in 18 Volumes (1907–21). Volume XI. The Period of the French Revolution. IX. Blake. § 15. His Theory of Imagination.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 23, 2016 22:22:14 GMT 7
Jesus H, bowie, ever heard of paragraphs? Must try better, a lame attempt, 3/10, see teacher. That was a quote, should have referenced it: The Cambridge History of English and American Literature in 18 Volumes (1907–21). Volume XI. The Period of the French Revolution. IX. Blake. § 15. His Theory of Imagination. No problemo, nothing to with referencing. Leads me onto another question, what is your attention span before you give up? Mine can range from 10 seconds (listening to farang bores), to 20-30 seconds of music (heard it all before Oasis) to 10 hours, reading a book straight through from start to finish. If its a documenatry (Russia Today, Al Jazeera, CCTV etc) I can sit and watch for 3 or 4 hours.
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Post by bowie on May 23, 2016 23:08:09 GMT 7
My attention span is variable, let's say as long as required , but far longer if I am inspired. You inspire me.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 23, 2016 23:35:54 GMT 7
^^^^ Wow, a bowie badge of honour, satu na krap.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 0:13:31 GMT 7
Cyber status indeed. The nod of bowie. I do mean that.
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Post by bowie on May 24, 2016 21:02:26 GMT 7
A double edged sword. I need people to shake me out of my arrogance; to read other opinions to strengthen my own resolve. I do not want agreement, although that would be a false ideal, I seek the dialectic,( Marxist jargon) of opposition and reasoning. Not Leninist or Maoist,cult worship, intellectual reasoning. Marxism is now divorced from the political factioning, it is an economic philosophy which is rooted in existentialism its philosophical arm. Can go back to the revolutionaries of the past, Paine, Voltaire, Blake, Robespierre, Washington, Marx, Sartre etc. Not writing a thesis tonight, but thank god it is raining.
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Post by bowie on May 24, 2016 21:11:55 GMT 7
Stupid musical interlude: Stream of consciousness my master not Marx:
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