Way too much deep thought on here,lets bring it down to working class toilet humour.

Some come here to read and write,
Some come here to wonder,
I come here to p**s and shyt.
And fart like effin thunder.

Well it got you thinking? Not that you do not always.
buddhist atheist, christian atheist, whatever yo want to place in front of atheist. Humanist, too liberal, too non descript. Faiths are there for some need, something deeper, spiritual, emotional, art. To the essence. It is all meaningless, but if we follow that only death follows and there is so much beauty. Grain of sand, <Bunny boiler>, it needs more than the rgs type toilet drivel. An understanding, an empathy and a soul. A soul; now that is religious. I am an atheist, but have soul, a love of all that is wonderful and a hatred of all that scorns it.
Here endeth the sermon.
Listen to Bartok, try, alone. I know every note of most of his works.
Not three minute sound bites, although I love them too, but only if they have for me, yes for me, soul, communicate emotion.
So F ck that and there you get near the something we are driven by but only few can see , appreciate. That is not a put down, it is a wanting for all to share equally, not by destiny, opportunity, but by oh F lost it there. An ideal and without ideals we are the animals we truly are.Second endeth.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

Robert Frost

Bitchy, but I do not wish to get down and dirty.
I think you are on the defensive, abc s indeed, I am older,  
I learnt my abc ab bb cc in heaven, yes my primary school was a heaven of real learning.
I lived a childhood of bomb destroyed neighbourhoods, of dead family members, of a mother traumatised (mad) by war and a father altered by all he had seen . Don't bull shit me, you lucky bastards.

Check Rothko.

<Bunny boiler> and rgs , you kid yourselves, there are no layers, it is all surface , like two spoilt brats

And <Bunny boiler> , like rgs , you childishly want the last word.

And I am being childish.

You sen and rgs , speak the poetry of hatred, it is shallow, lacks consideration and disregards all , but yourselves. I hear no sympathy, no caring, nothing empathetic, just ego and self.
If any contradicts you, you trump it like Trump with bigotry.