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Post by Fletchsmile on Aug 19, 2016 9:45:00 GMT 7
So GB started off as usual, and were below even Thailand in the medal tables. But the last few days we've actually been 2nd in the medal tables. Behind only the US. So what's going wrong? Why are we doing so well? It just doesn't seem British
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 11:03:47 GMT 7
Mark Cavendish says it's cos they use crap equipment and stay in crap hotels until the Olympic year - and in that year they spend four years worth of grants to ensure medal success.
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Post by thatguy on Aug 19, 2016 23:22:26 GMT 7
Because we pursued the cynical path of pouring funding into the events we were already doing well in, whilst ignoring everything else. Hence the endless focus on rowing and cycling. Looks good on the medal table, but I'm not sure its great for British sport in the long term.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 3:38:24 GMT 7
Because we pursued the cynical path of pouring funding into the events we were already doing well in, whilst ignoring everything else. Hence the endless focus on rowing and cycling. Looks good on the medal table, but I'm not sure its great for British sport in the long term. I think you better have a look at the medal spread - medals in eighteen sports so far, with a medal coming in at least one more to add to that ( hockey ) - debunks your argument. And it's superb for British sport in the long term - way better than the appalling result at Atlanta.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 3:41:37 GMT 7
So GB started off as usual, and were below even Thailand in the medal tables. But the last few days we've actually been 2nd in the medal tables. Behind only the US. So what's going wrong? Why are we doing so well? It just doesn't seem British What is British is the ability to find fault in everything. If there was a gold medal for "not being happy until you are unhappy," we'd win it every day in the week.
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Post by Mosha on Aug 20, 2016 4:15:16 GMT 7
I never used to take much notice of field hockey, until a friend who played moved into a work locker near me. Monday mornings he be getting changed and he's black and blue. Never saw that as much on rugby players.
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Post by wildoats on Aug 20, 2016 4:18:54 GMT 7
Australian Coaches (now or recently)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 4:39:47 GMT 7
It's a pattern set by Nature, been going on for millions of years, nothing is constant. Sometimes you are on top, sometimes on the bottom. Every animal on the planet suffers from it. I used to worry about Australia not doing well in certain sports but if you wait long enough they will eventually rise to the top again. The English cricket team is a good example.
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Post by thatguy on Aug 20, 2016 7:48:24 GMT 7
Because we pursued the cynical path of pouring funding into the events we were already doing well in, whilst ignoring everything else. Hence the endless focus on rowing and cycling. Looks good on the medal table, but I'm not sure its great for British sport in the long term. I think you better have a look at the medal spread - medals in eighteen sports so far, with a medal coming in at least one more to add to that ( hockey ) - debunks your argument. And it's superb for British sport in the long term - way better than the appalling result at Atlanta. Lets just re-bunk it, then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 7:51:59 GMT 7
I think you better have a look at the medal spread - medals in eighteen sports so far, with a medal coming in at least one more to add to that ( hockey ) - debunks your argument. And it's superb for British sport in the long term - way better than the appalling result at Atlanta. Lets just re-bunk it, then.You mentioned two sports and there's nineteen medal winning sports so far
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Post by thatguy on Aug 20, 2016 7:57:04 GMT 7
I mentioned two examples.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 8:27:58 GMT 7
I mentioned two examples. Okay - so what really is your complaint? The government opened the national lottery as it knew that the Arts & General fund would never be able to supply enough cash to sport development, community projects, and of course - the arts. The people of Britain play the lottery of their choice these days - I play the National Lottery by Direct Debit to the tune of around £1000 a year. There was a time when I won only a tenner ( buying over the counter ) I'd leave it knowing it was going to good causes. I'm delighted that sport is being funded, and I'm pleased to see so many sports at all levels receiving the grants that they do. In which way am I, and the millions of other National Lottery players, doing something wrong? In which way is UK Sport doing anything wrong promoting and supporting elite athletes? And as was pointed out earlier this week - the brutality of the selection process brings results. British gymnastics was pathetic and as a result, they lost their funding. They went back to the drawing board, rejigged their entire sport in the UK, and now receive funding once more. And the medals have followed - good on them. The British way in the past has been jobs for the boys, jobs for the Hooray Henry's, and bad luck old chap - better luck next time. I know what system I prefer.
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Post by thatguy on Aug 20, 2016 8:29:40 GMT 7
I wasn't complaining - just answering the OP's question.
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Post by Mosha on Aug 20, 2016 10:19:35 GMT 7
There is a formula called the German Formula, that might explain things.
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