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Post by rubl on Aug 23, 2016 22:44:56 GMT 7
"The Bank of Thailand (BoT) has warned commercial banks that about 10,000 NCR-brand ATMs nationwide are prone to hacking after a group made off with 12 million baht from a state bank's machines. The Government Savings Bank (GSB) partially shut down its system on Tuesday after finding out about the hack. The machines in question are of the Scotland-based NCR brand, which are used by other banks as well." www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/1069237/10-000-atms-nationwide-hack-prone |
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Post by smokie36 on Aug 24, 2016 2:49:50 GMT 7
Always use machines inside the bank.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 3:49:03 GMT 7
Always use machines inside the bank. Always use the teller? |
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Post by rubl on Aug 24, 2016 8:03:53 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 8:08:07 GMT 7
Hmmm - the tellers in my branch are cuter. There's also a branch just up the road within Siam TV that opens on a Saturday too - very handy. |
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Post by rubl on Aug 24, 2016 8:11:26 GMT 7
Hmmm - the tellers in my branch are cuter. There's also a branch just up the road within Siam TV that opens on a Saturday too - very handy. Micro branches in SuperMalls and so tend to be open every day from 10AM to 10PM. Not all banking functions available though. |
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Post by siampolee on Aug 24, 2016 18:09:20 GMT 7
Interesting to see the blame game being played too.I somehow doubt it's a machine fault or all banks using NCR machines would be experiencing losses. Rogue staff or a hack attack that has exploited a weak point in the security wall springs to my mind and the former system of theft as opposed to the latter. Seems at the moment it's the dreaded foreigner who is nicking the wonga by withdrawing cash from the ATMs from evidence courtesy of ATM machine scan cams. Not that I am pointing a finger though as it's all circumstantial or circumcised if it's a kosher ATM.   |
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Post by siampolee on Aug 24, 2016 18:17:50 GMT 7
Hang on!! I wonder if the machines were programmed by the geezer that's ''updating the other place forum''? Got all the hallmarks of a gigantic bundle of chaos as is very evident when one views the farce unfolding before one's eyes in the other place.  |
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Post by me on Aug 24, 2016 19:48:22 GMT 7
Interesting to see the blame game being played too.I somehow doubt it's a machine fault or all banks using NCR machines would be experiencing losses. Rogue staff or a hack attack that has exploited a weak point in the security wall springs to my mind and the former system of theft as opposed to the latter. Seems at the moment it's the dreaded foreigner who is nicking the wonga by withdrawing cash from the ATMs from evidence courtesy of ATM machine scan cams. Not that I am pointing a finger though as it's all circumstantial or circumcised if it's a kosher ATM. Using windows xp in the machine would not have anything to do with it would it? |
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Post by rubl on Aug 24, 2016 23:06:22 GMT 7
Interesting to see the blame game being played too.I somehow doubt it's a machine fault or all banks using NCR machines would be experiencing losses. Rogue staff or a hack attack that has exploited a weak point in the security wall springs to my mind and the former system of theft as opposed to the latter. Seems at the moment it's the dreaded foreigner who is nicking the wonga by withdrawing cash from the ATMs from evidence courtesy of ATM machine scan cams. Not that I am pointing a finger though as it's all circumstantial or circumcised if it's a kosher ATM. Using windows xp in the machine would not have anything to do with it would it? Looks like an NT version, French language as well, not that that is really relevant (in this case at least  ) |
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Post by me on Aug 25, 2016 6:59:14 GMT 7
Using windows xp in the machine would not have anything to do with it would it? Looks like an NT version, French language as well, not that that is really relevant (in this case at least ) I think that is a stock photo used in the article. In this case I do not think it was scan cams. It seems the money was taken direct from the ATM from the Bank's account not from users. The relevance of the comment about XP is that I think the vunerability which allowed this may have been in un updated software with security holes. I wonder if NCR could have a claim for defamation. www.ncr.com/wp-content/uploads/aptra_activate_ds.pdfIndicates XP win 7 ready. Their activate studio seems to open quite a bit which could with modification be used to attack. Security is just as good as the last patch. In theory because the software mainly communicates with and is authorised by the bank ATMs do not matter. I think in this case they were made to work without having transactions authorised to dispense the cash. |
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Post by rubl on Aug 25, 2016 9:06:27 GMT 7
I wouldn't be surprised if worldwide there are still ATMs controlled by PCs running Windows/95 or 98.
With various propriety Operation Systems used before hacking was difficult apart from having very limited, more point-to-point communication and much less awareness. With a 'nice' O.S. like Windows, Internet-like communication protocols and more active hackers security is no longer automatic.
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Post by rubl on Aug 25, 2016 9:28:42 GMT 7
Time for experts and Security Consultants to cash in "Security centre urged after GSB theft NBTC vice-chair says set-up will take a year Thailand is in critical need of a cybersecurity centre that can immediately tackle a cyberattack, says the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission. "The lack of a cybersecurity centre may be a major loophole prompting hackers to target Thailand, as they will have time to flee before the affected bank network notices the unusual activity," said NBTC vice-chairman Settapong Malisuwan. His remarks followed a shutdown by Government Savings Bank (GSB) of half its ATMs after the discovery that some of them were infected with malware by thieves who emptied the machines. They stole about 12 million baht from 21 ATMs." www.bangkokpost.com/business/telecom/1070316/security-centre-urged-after-gsb-theft |
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