Mosha
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Post by Mosha on Sept 17, 2016 19:27:19 GMT 7
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 17, 2016 21:23:55 GMT 7
Well done the Belgians.
What parent wouldnt do the same, what kind of parent would allow their children to suffer in agony.
First good news story out of Belgium I have read in a long time.
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Post by smokie36 on Sept 17, 2016 21:28:22 GMT 7
Meanwhile the UK buries its head in the sand.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Sept 17, 2016 22:04:10 GMT 7
^^^^ We show more compasion to dumb animals than we do to our fellow man.
They shoot horses dont they?
Used to pick Evelyn up from the hospital, first thing she did was "fire one up" and smoke it in the car, got home and smoked another, that was just to get her head back to normality.
The stories these nurses, fireman, police etc could tell you, no wonder many suffer from alcohol abuse, its not that they are alckies, its a way of blocking out the suffering they see every day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2016 23:50:31 GMT 7
The thing that beats me is the use of medical advances to prolong the agony.
There's many people alive today that should be dead, long since dead.
This may sound callous, however to see it may change some people's minds. I was in a daycare centre for disabled children in Glasgow. Now, this wasn't a daycare centre as you and I may imagine it - it was a high tech medical facility where these young individuals spent their days wired up and connected to oxygen bottles. Not a moments laughter or joy in the whole building.
These children are all brain damaged well beyond the point of hope. This is hell, in my view. And at the end of the day these kids are transported him by ambulance, to be wired up again in their own homes. One of my cousins, a social worker, could not believe here eyes when she discovered how many people were living like this in the community.
They should be dead. Nature wanted them dead - man played the part of God and kept them alive. Man is not God.
I don't condone some type of Hitlerite cleansing. I regret how many Down's kids are aborted, for example. Why? because when I was young Down's kids were a part of daily life. Many of them beautiful, loving and great fun. They had a quality of life, they had friends, they were part of our lives.
One of my friends has a mentally challenged adult son. He's a sweetheart, hilarious, gentle, a breath of fresh air. And he knows what he likes, he knows what he is interested in, and he could teach you or I many things. I look at him and regret that he was born this way, but don't regret his life - far from it.
The difference is from he and the others mentioned. He has some degree of function and independence. He doesn't need his mother to wake every two hours to check his breathing equipment, or for his father to lie at night waiting for an alarm.
This is medical Frankensteinism, this is man getting too smart for himself and causing layer upon layer of suffering and emotional trauma. This is man putting families into an impossible position. This is man inflicting emotional trauma upon untold amounts of people.
We have to show compassion, and part of compassion sometimes is to accept that death is the better road.
I regret that the child in the OP won't live a full and enjoyable life. I salute the Belgians and his family for having the moral courage to understand that we are not Frankenstein's creations - we are not torturers, we are not gifted with all the answers.
RIP when it comes, wee yin.
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Post by Mosha on Sept 18, 2016 8:02:01 GMT 7
Dad always used to say, "I'd rather be dead than have to rely on people, tending to my most basic needs". Which at his end. Is what happened, I was the last family member to see him, and he was struggling just to breath. He gasped out for me to help him. No one will convince me other wise, he was asking me to end his suffering.. I rang next morning and he was still alive, I gave them a brother's number. I went in for my shift. 7:00 am I called him and gave him a number to call. I walked over to the plant. As I walked past the process Foreman's office, the phone rang. It had 2 rings, 1 for external and 1 for internal calls. It was the former, and I knew before I picked up the handset. You let a pet suffer you go to court, assist a suicide, you go to court.
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Post by Mosha on Sept 23, 2016 20:28:51 GMT 7
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