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Post by Fletchsmile on Apr 27, 2015 13:14:00 GMT 7
Results are now in for most of the commercial banks in Thailand for the first quarter (1Q) of 2015 (15) These can be useful for some idea of where the economy is going, interest rates (for loans as well as beer money deposits) etc which affects the life of expats in Thailand for their businesses as well as personal money. 1Q15 looks to have been a slow quarter, with: - weak earnings growth a reflection of the economy generally. Earnings for the sector grew 1.6% year on year (YOY) - Net interest margins (NIMs) - the difference between loan and deposit rates - decreased, meaning banks are also less likely to be upping bank interest rates on your deposits. To maintain/increase NIMs they either have to increase loan rates - difficult in the current economic climate - or cut deposit rates. - Non-performing loans (NPLs) - people who don't pay their loans back - have generally increased a bit to around 3%, as the quality of the economy, and hence ability to repay loans, has been weak The other aspect of course is whether it makes sense to invest in bank shares or not. Given banks are usually among the higher dividend plays in countries, they can be attractive for that. Generally at the moment historic div yields are between 1.5% to 4.8% (with average around 3.5%), and historic P/Es are around 10-11 which is below their long term averages, so as a sector they don't look too expensive, but pays to do your own research on individual stocks. KGI provide a reasonable summary research.kgieworld.co.th/recom.nsf/0/4DD377F0D2DAE00247257E3000029C3C/$file/Daily+Story_Banking_2015_04_23_e_th.pdfCheers Fletch
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Post by Fletchsmile on May 1, 2015 20:57:55 GMT 7
On the other hand, the big Singaporean banks are showing stronger performance than Thailand ------------------- OCBC Profit Beats Estimates as Hong Kong Unit Bolsters Loans30 April, Bloomberg Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp., Southeast Asia’s second-largest bank, posted a higher-than-estimated 11 percent gain in first-quarter profit as it absorbed loans and deposits from the Hong Kong unit it acquired last year. Net income for the three months ended March 31 climbed to S$993 million ($751 million) from S$899 million a year earlier, the Singapore-based bank reported Thursday. The average of six analyst forecasts in a Bloomberg survey was S$911 million. United Overseas Bank Ltd., its smaller competitor, reported a 1.6 percent increase in profit. Both lenders face the prospect of being able to charge borrowers more for loans amid rising domestic interest rates, which climbed to a six-year high in the first quarter. That may boost interest margins and offset any slowdown in lending volumes as the city’s economy cools. “In terms of the banking sector, this is one sector that we are particularly overweight in because we think net interest margins will really help,” Kelvin Tay, a money manager at UBS Wealth Management in Singapore, said Thursday in an interview. “While we have passed the worst, we don’t see a significant increase this year” for loan growth, he said. OCBC shares fell 2.1 percent to S$10.65 as of 12:41 p.m. on Thursday in Singapore as the stock traded without its latest dividend payout. UOB was little changed, compared with the benchmark Straits Times Index’s 0.4 percent loss. While OCBC’s consumer loan spreads in Singapore improved, a 26 percent increase in deposits in the quarter and weaker income from money-market activities helped drag the bank’s net interest margin down to 1.62 percent from 1.7 percent a year earlier. UOB’s NIM rose three basis points to 1.76 percent. DBS Profit The margin for DBS Group Holdings Ltd., OCBC and UOB’s largest rival, gained three basis points to 1.69 percent in the period, the bank reported Monday. DBS posted a record S$1.27 billion profit for the quarter on higher net interest income and proceeds from selling a Hong Kong property investment. OCBC’s net interest margin is expected to “gradually improve” this year, Chief Executive Officer Samuel Tsien said at a press briefing Thursday. The three-month Singapore interbank offered rate more than doubled in the first quarter to exceed 1 percent for the first time since 2008. “More loans are being priced to higher interest rates,” said He Yuxuan, an analyst at KGI Fraser Securities Pte. “For the whole year, there will be an increase in interest income.” Weaker Demand OCBC’s loans grew 20 percent in the quarter as it incorporated lending from its OCBC Wing Hang Bank unit in Hong Kong, which it acquired last year for $5 billion. Excluding Wing Hang, OCBC said its loans rose 4 percent, while deposits gained 8 percent. Loans are expected to increase this year at a mid-single digit percentage rate amid weaker demand in Singapore, Tsien told reporters. They grew 24 percent in 2014. The city’s economy expanded an annualized 1.1 percent in the three months through March from the previous quarter, down from a 4.9 percent rate in the preceding period. “We need to be more careful,” Tsien said on the sidelines of the briefing. “What we want to do is to build up a quality loan business rather than going out to just increase loans, because the operating environment from the credit perspective that we are in is not so favorable.” The lender’s net interest income climbed 15 percent from a year earlier, it said. UOB reported net income in the quarter of S$801 million as its net interest income climbed 8.3 percent, while fee and commission income gained 9.5 percent. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-29/ocbc-first-quarter-profit-rises-11-beating-analyst-estimates
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Post by Fletchsmile on May 5, 2015 9:17:46 GMT 7
And depositors in Thailand thought bank rates were low... Key deposit rate at MINUS 0.75%% - that's f****d up --------------------------------- Bank Competition Latest Symptom of Danish Currency WarDon't Miss Out — Follow us on: Facebook Twitter Instagram Youtube by Frances Schwartzkopff May 4, 2015 Denmark’s fourth-biggest listed bank says it’s being squeezed out of corporate lending as competitors offer rates that undermine profitability. Negative interest rates have turned Denmark into a borrowers’ market. Spar Nord Bank A/S says it’s decided no longer to fight to hold on to some customers after finding that loan rates that would only just allow it to break even are still higher than those offered by rivals. “We’ve been head-to-head and gone to the very limit of profitability in our offers, and we have still lost customers,” Ole Madsen, senior vice president at Spar Nord, said in an interview. It’s the latest example of how negative rates borne of AAA-rated Denmark’s battle against currency speculators are distorting credit markets in the country. The key deposit rate is minus 0.75 percent. Yields on government bonds with maturities as long as five years are negative, as are mortgage-bond yields as long as two years. “The low interest rates are making everything strange,” said Jesper Rangvid, the author of a government-commissioned report on Denmark’s financial crisis and a finance professor at Copenhagen Business School. “It is good for those who are borrowing but from a financial stability point of view and a banking point of view, it does create challenges.” FSA Warning Danske Bank A/S, the country’s biggest lender, says it’s preparing for negative rates to last through the rest of 2015. The Financial Supervisory Authority is still trying to assess the ramifications. The agency “is monitoring risks connected with the development in the interest rate,” Kristian Vie Madsen, acting director at the regulator, said in an e-mail. His predecessor, Ulrik Noedgaard, warns that record-low rates are also leading to “worrying” developments in Denmark’s property market. The Danish FSA in March told banks to tighten lending standards. Its review of new loans to businesses found medium-sized and smaller banks weren’t properly analyzing proposals and some lacked up-to-date information on clients. Loans to businesses are down by about 40 percent since peaking in 2008, central bank data show. Loan books totaled 252 billion kroner in March, up 2 percent from a month earlier. According to Karen Froesig, chief executive officer at Sydbank A/S, the main problem is that demand for borrowing is so low. “We have had a crisis and people want to save,” she said. Most banks are dealing with the slump in traditional lending income by generating revenue from fees on remortgaging, as customers convert to lower rates. Sydbank said last week its income from remortgaging doubled in the first quarter. Spar Nord’s climbed 52 percent. “What we’re seeing at the moment is a surplus of liquidity and capital,” Madsen said. “It’s the reverse of a credit crunch. There are too many banks wanting to lend.” www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-05-03/fierce-bank-competition-latest-symptom-of-denmark-s-currency-war
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Post by Fletchsmile on May 5, 2015 9:24:35 GMT 7
Should add that I don't think the banks pass that negative rate onto depositors, but even so means you'll realistically get nothing on your deposits for a while to come. There's a Bloomberg quicktake on it: ________________________________________________________________________________________ Less Than Zero When Interest Rates Go NegativeImagine a bank that pays negative interest. Depositors are actually charged to keep their money in an account. Crazy as it sounds, several of Europe’s central banks have cut key interest rates below zero. For some, it’s a bid to reinvigorate an economy with other options exhausted. Others want to push foreigners to move their money somewhere else. Either way, it’s an unorthodox choice that has created distortions in financial markets. Some commercial banks have started to pass negative rates onto their customers. It’s a strategy that could ultimately backfire. The Situation The European Central Bank chose to experiment with negative rates before turning to a bond-buying program like those used in the U.S. and Japan. It was the first major central bank to venture into negative territory and its deposit rate reached minus 0.2 percent in September, a level President Mario Draghi said was the “lower bound.” It effectively punishes banks that hoard cash at the central bank instead of extending loans to businesses or to weaker lenders. Sweden is using a similar combination of negative rates and bond-buying. Denmark pushed rates deeper into negative territory to protect its currency’s peg to the euro and Switzerland moved its deposit rate below zero for the first time since the 1970s. Since central banks provide a benchmark for all borrowing costs, negative rates spread to a range of fixed-income securities. By the end of March, more than a quarter of the debt issued by euro zone governments had negative yields. That means investors holding to maturity won’t get all their money back. While banks are reluctant to pass on negative rates for fear of losing customers, UBS has complained that its earnings are being crimped and Julius Baer began to charge large depositors for holding their cash. The Background Negative interest rates are a sign of desperation, a signal that traditional policy options have proved ineffective and new limits need to be explored. Rates below zero have never been used in an economy as large as the euro area. While there is no guarantee that negative rates will be able to achieve what they are meant to do, Draghi pledged during the height of Europe’s sovereign debt crisis in 2012 to do “whatever it takes” to save the area’s common currency, signaling the ECB’s willingness to be innovative. Policy makers are trying to prevent a slide into deflation, or a spiral of falling prices that could derail the recovery. The euro zone is grappling with a shortage of credit and unemployment near its highest level since the currency bloc was formed in 1999. The Argument In theory, interest rates below zero should reduce borrowing costs for companies and households, driving demand for loans. In practice, there’s a risk that the policy might do more harm than good. Janet Yellen, the U.S. Federal Reserve chair, said at her confirmation hearing in November 2013 that even a deposit rate that’s positive but close to zero could disrupt the money markets that help fund financial institutions. If banks make more customers pay to hold their money, retails clients may put their cash under the mattress instead. When banks absorb the costs of negative rates themselves, it squeezes the profit margin between their lending and deposit rates, and might make them even less willing to lend. Ever-lower rates are also raising concern that countries are engaged in a currency war of competitive devaluations as investors shift their money to places where it earns more. www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/negative-interest-rates
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Post by Fletchsmile on May 13, 2015 14:18:55 GMT 7
Bad loans continue to increase.... Always need to be careful though when you see headline grabbing numbers like "jumped 22% over the same period last year". They're still only 2% - 3% of outstanding loans ---------------------------------- Bad loans spike in first quarterBangkok Post Published: 12/05/2015 at 09:00 AM Newspaper section: Business Bad credit-card and personal loans surged at a double-digit pace in the first three months of 2015, reinforcing signs that individuals' debt repayment ability is deteriorating amid the stuttering economy. Non-performing loans (NPLs) for credit-card spending jumped almost 22% over the same period last year to 8.93 billion baht as of March 31, while that of personal loan rose at a faster pace of 27.4% to 15.5 billion, according to data available on the Bank of Thailand's website. Bad credit-card loans by commercial banks soared to 6.75 billion baht at the end of March from 5.19 billion in the same period of 2014, while those of non-bank lenders increased at a modest pace to 2.19 billion from 2.13 billion. Commercial banks' more than three-month overdue personal loans rose to 8.11 billion baht at the end of the first quarter from 6.76 billion baht in the corresponding period last year, while those of non-bank lenders increased to 7.36 billion baht from 5.38 billion baht. Banks and non-bank companies under the supervision of the central bank saw gross NPLs collectively increase to 298 billion baht at the end of March from 277 billion at the end of last year and 280 billion over the same period of the past 12 months. The NPL ratio also rose to 2.29% of outstanding loans at the end of March from 2.15% at the end of last December. The central bank earlier projected NPLs to rise steadily in the first quarter due to the modest pace of economic recovery, while full-year growth of bad loans is not expected to increase substantially, given improving growth impetus. However, the central bank is not worried by the rise in NPLs, as the ratio was still minimal and lenders had high provisions to cushion against the risk. Kiatnakin Bank recently warned its bad loan ratio could reach 7% in the second quarter as the struggling economy and spiralling household debt erode asset quality. Household debt more than doubled to 10.4 trillion baht at the end of 2014 from 5.05 trillion at the end of 2008. In terms of ratio, it stood at 85.9% of GDP at the end of 2014, up significantly from 55.6% at the end of 2008. As of March 31, a total of 20.6 million credit cards were circulating in the market with outstanding loans of 252 billion baht, while there were 11.8 million personal loan accounts with overall loans of 313 billion baht, central bank data showed. Credit-card spending rose to 142 billion baht at the end of the first quarter from 131 billion at the end of 2014. Card spending, classified by category, increased across the board. Domestic spending was added to 117 billion baht at the end of March from 107 billion at the end of last year, international spending rose to 9.54 billion from 8.42 billion and, most importantly, card cash withdrawals also increased to 16.2 billion from 15.3 billion. Data show 10.8 million credit cards were issued by non-bank companies and the remaining 9.78 million by commercial banks at the end of the first three months. www.bangkokpost.com/print/558279/
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Post by Fletchsmile on May 13, 2015 14:24:33 GMT 7
The Islamic Bank though does have some very big %s of bad loans. About THB 48bio out of THB 109 bio or 44%. That's massive. No surprise therefore that they're paying higher interest rates on deposits compared to better run banks, eg bigmango.boards.net/post/17514/threadNo wonder also they're trying to sell it, and even going as far as allowing foreigners to own a majority stake. Currently 49% owned by the government. Maybe the British govt want it for their collection
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