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Post by tigerfish on Mar 19, 2017 14:15:38 GMT 7
by a good friend of mine the other day, not from these shores. if the Scots get another crack at a referendum, why can't the whole of the U.K. get to vote on the outcome and not just those from north of the border. begs the question. hey ?
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Post by Soutpeel on Mar 19, 2017 14:35:06 GMT 7
by a good friend of mine the other day, not from these shores. if the Scots get another crack at a referendum, why can't the whole of the U.K. get to vote on the outcome and not just those from north of the border. begs the question. hey ? Because in all likelyhood the rest of the UK would vote them out of the UK and vote to rebuild the wall You really think the fish lady wants out the UK ?...i personally think its all a politcal game to gain increased personal power and get her hand further into the till, she doesnt really want out out
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Post by MrToad on Mar 19, 2017 14:38:14 GMT 7
I think Soutie is hitting the nail on the head firmly with that
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Post by rubl on Mar 19, 2017 15:25:22 GMT 7
As an outsider I'm still wondering about the English not having an English devolved government? Are they a lesser type of people that they're only represented in the UK parliament?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 15:41:51 GMT 7
The wrong question is being asked. The real question is - "When was the United Kingdom ever a UNITED KINGDOM under one law?" Answer? - never. The Scots have always been regarded as a separate entity. So, as a separate entity, we'll decide. And if the people of the country formerly known as England want to have their own independence referendum, go ahead. We Scots ain't stopping you. Truth is, you haven't got the bottle.
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Post by oldie on Mar 19, 2017 15:50:51 GMT 7
The only thing I can understand about Scottish history is from a movie that I walked out of, by an American living in Australia.
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Post by Soutpeel on Mar 19, 2017 16:07:33 GMT 7
The only thing I can understand about Scottish history is from a movie that I walked out of, by an American living in Australia. Who painted his balls blue and wore kilt, which they did neither during that actual period
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Post by rubl on Mar 19, 2017 16:14:31 GMT 7
The wrong question is being asked. The real question is - "When was the United Kingdom ever a UNITED KINGDOM under one law?" Answer? - never. The Scots have always been regarded as a separate entity. So, as a separate entity, we'll decide. And if the people of the country formerly known as England want to have their own independence referendum, go ahead. We Scots ain't stopping you. Truth is, you haven't got the bottle. Now don't be hasty, young master Bleth "English whisky is whisky produced in England. There are currently at least six distilleries producing English whisky." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_whisky
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Post by Soutpeel on Mar 19, 2017 16:16:31 GMT 7
The wrong question is being asked. The real question is - "When was the United Kingdom ever a UNITED KINGDOM under one law?" Answer? - never. The Scots have always been regarded as a separate entity. So, as a separate entity, we'll decide. And if the people of the country formerly known as England want to have their own independence referendum, go ahead. We Scots ain't stopping you. Truth is, you haven't got the bottle. Actually think they did have their own referendum and voted for their independence from the EU, it would appear the only people who are stopping Scottish indendence from the UK are the Scottish people who voted democratically the last time not to leave, so struggling to see how "England" is even involved in this debate, so as a separate entity they did decide, they voted not to leave the UK...its not the UKs fault if the likes of the fish woman will not accept a democractic vote of the Scottish " people"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:37:58 GMT 7
I'll go ask <Terry F_kwitt> what he thinks if you like tigerfish?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 16:51:49 GMT 7
I don't trust the results of referendums like this when only 72.21 percent of the eligible voters turnout.
The ones who want to leave have had their win, that is not to be argued, but I do believe if it were possible to have a 100% turnout the result may have been different.
Also think that if they ever do leave there are going to be lots of people whinging about some aspect of it, or other, as is usually the case in changes like this.
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Post by siampolee on Mar 19, 2017 17:22:29 GMT 7
Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister's chauffeur driven car. Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop. Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving." The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead. " You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, I can't afford to be blamed for anything. The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face. " My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola. The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap up meal and the daughter made love to me." " What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola. I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon's chauffeur and I've just killed the cow."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:24:33 GMT 7
The wrong question is being asked. The real question is - "When was the United Kingdom ever a UNITED KINGDOM under one law?" Answer? - never. The Scots have always been regarded as a separate entity. So, as a separate entity, we'll decide. And if the people of the country formerly known as England want to have their own independence referendum, go ahead. We Scots ain't stopping you. Truth is, you haven't got the bottle. Actually think they did have their own referendum and voted for their independence from the EU, it would appear the only people who are stopping Scottish indendence from the UK are the Scottish people who voted democratically the last time not to leave, so struggling to see how "England" is even involved in this debate, so as a separate entity they did decide, they voted not to leave the UK...its not the UKs fault if the likes of the fish woman will not accept a democractic vote of the Scottish " people" The E.U. membership question was used as a stick to beat the independents with last time. We were told "in the UK, in the E.U." That is no longer the case. The deal on offer by the No side last time is now dead. Hence the potential new referendum.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:27:19 GMT 7
Nicola Sturgeon is touring Perthshire in the First Minister's chauffeur driven car. Suddenly a cow jumps out into the road. They hit it full on and the car comes to a stop. Nicola in her usual jaunty manner, says to the chauffeur : " You get out and check - you were driving." The chauffeur gets out, checks and reports that the animal is dead. " You were driving, go and tell the farmer," says Nicola, I can't afford to be blamed for anything. The chauffeur walks up the drive to the farmhouse and returns five hours later totally plastered, his hair ruffled and with a big grin on his face. " My God, what happened to you ?" asks Nicola. The chauffeur replies : " When I got there, the farmer opened his best bottle of malt whisky, the wife gave me a slap up meal and the daughter made love to me." " What on earth did you say?" asks Nicola. I knocked on the door and when it was answered, I said to them, I'm Nicola Sturgeon's chauffeur and I've just killed the cow." That's a good one
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 21:31:23 GMT 7
Gonna say - two things:
1. I don't like Sturgeon. Smokie witnessed me falling out with a few SNP supporters on the day after Brexit. That woman couldn't wait to get in front of the cameras while the country was in meltdown.
An astute politician would have said nothing for a few days.
2. Do not confuse the SNP with the independence movement. It's not the same thing. The SNP are a Trojan Horse.
The day after the referendum is won, I and many other independents will turn on the SNP and shut them down. We will be joined by many members of the SNP.
You are watching the last days of the United Kingdom.
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