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Worse than the mirror without pictures......from the Trewman's Exeter Flying Post mote at genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonMisc/Inquests1894.html
Saturday 20 January 1894, Issue 8271 – Gale Document No. Y3200755940
INQUEST IN EXETER - Scene in Court. Ordering the Jury to be Locked Up.
Lively Proceedings - Removing a Dead Body in a Cab.
At the Exeter Police Court on Monday Mr H. W. Hooper, City Coroner, held an Inquiry into the circumstances attending the death of ROSE ANNIE LILY HEARN. Mr W. H. Hampton was chosen Foreman of the Jury. Inspector Hart, of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, was present.
CATHERINE HEARN, wife of JOSEPH PATRICK HEARN, a rag and bone collector, residing at No. 2, Cricklepit-street, identified the body as that of her daughter who was fourteen months of age. Witness fed the child on bread, sugar and milk. The child was found dead in bed this morning about nine o'clock. Deceased's life was insured, but "she was not payable."
Mr Hawkins (a Juryman): You say the child's life is insured? Witness: Yes, but I shall not get any money, as the deceased is not payable.
Mr Hawkins: How was the child brought to the Police Station from Cricklepit-street?
The Coroner: In a cab by my orders. I did it for your convenience, because I thought it would be better for you to come here and hold the Inquest than go to Cricklepit-street.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman who brought the corpse to the station.
The Coroner: I do not know.
Mr Hawkins: Has a cabman a right to take a dead body into his cab?
The Coroner: Certainly; I gave orders.
Mr Hawkins: I doubt whether a man has a right to take a dead body in a licensed carriage.
The Coroner: I know the law on the matter.
Mr Hawkins: I don't care for that. I have my opinion, and the Coroner has his. I shall object.
The Coroner: You can object as much as you like.
Mr Hawkins: I shall sir. I am speaking feelingly. I want to know the name of the cabman who brought the child to the Police Station.
The Coroner: That has nothing to do with it.
Mr Hawkins: We are here as Jurymen, and not to have our mouths shut up.
The Coroner: The cabman brought the deceased to the Police Station through my orders.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman, and I will have it. We are not a lot of dummies.
The Coroner: I must ask you to sit down and be quiet.
Mr Hawkins: If you answer my question I will. We as Jurymen are entitled to put questions and have answers.
The Coroner: Certainly.
Mr Hawkins: I want the name of that cabman. If you keep us here until tomorrow night I'll have it. I consider that is necessary.
The Coroner: I tell you it was done through my orders.
Mr Hawkins: Do you know the number of the cab?
The Coroner: No, I don't.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know whether a cab driver can put a corpse in his cab?
The Coroner: Certainly.
Mr Hawkins: I shall find out.
The Coroner: So you can.
Inspector Hart: Mr Coroner, I should like to ask the witness (MRS HEARN) a question.
The Coroner: Are you on the Jury?
Inspector Hart: I am here watching the proceedings on behalf of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children.
The Coroner: Then you can ask questions.
Mr Hart then asked questions.
A Juryman (to MRS HEARN) How long ago did you say the child was ill?
The mother: About seven or eight weeks ago.
A Juryman: How long ago did you insure the deceased.
Witness: About a fortnight before her illness.
Mr Clapp, surgeon, residing and practising in Exeter, proved attending the deceased a good time before death. Witness was called yesterday morning when he found the child dead in bed. He examined the body, and found no marks of violence. In his opinion death was due to convulsions. All the children of the previous witness were unhealthy.
The Foreman: Would the way in which the mother fed the child have anything to do with the death?
Mr Clapp: I don't think so.
Mr Hawkins: You say, sir that the children of the woman are unhealthy?
Mr Clapp: Yes.
Mr Hawkins: You last visited this child on the 24th of December, did you not?
Mr Clapp: Yes.
Mr Hawkins: then did you consider that the child was perfectly well?
Mr Clapp: I considered the deceased was then in tolerably good health. I thought she was sufficiently well.
Mr Hawkins: Are you a parish doctor?
Mr Clapp: I am.
Mr Hawkins: I thought so. Not that I am going to comment on that. If another medical man had been called in would he not have visited the child later than you did?
Mr Clapp: I shall not answer that question. At that time I considered the child was sufficiently well.
Mr Hawkins: What is the state of health of the children of MRS HEARN?
Mr Clapp: Not very good. One of them died a short time since at the Sanatorium.
Mr Hawkins: Was there any fever in this particular case?
Mr Clapp: No, sir.
Mr Hawkins: I was going to suggest that the Sanitary Inspector might disinfect this cab.
The Coroner: There was no infection.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman. I shall not consider the verdict without that. If you are (turning around to his fellow Jurymen) I am not. I want to know the name of that cabman.
Mace Sergeant Meardon: I don't know exactly where to find him now.
Mr Hawkins: I don't care where he is. He may be gone out to Ide for all I care.
The Coroner: I will pledge you that you shall have his name.
Mr Hawkins: I am here, and I have been sworn as a Juryman. It is necessary to have it, and have it I will.
Mr Clapp: There is no law that corpses shall not be taken in a cab.
Mr Hawkins: I am talking to the Coroner, and not to you, Mr Clapp.
The Coroner (to Mr Hawkins): I must ask you to be quiet.
Mr Hawkins: Then why not stop Mr Clapp. I am not going to consider the verdict until I have seen that cabman.
A Juryman: That is rubbish.
Mr Hawkins: That may be so. You can keep me here until nine o'clock if you like, but I will have the name of the cabman. If the cabman is allowed to take a corpse through the city in a licensed hackney carriage I can do my funeral work five shilling cheaper.
A Juryman: That has nothing to do with the cause of death.
Mr Hawkins: I know that. I want to know if a cabman has a right to put a corpse in his licensed cab. I am not going to be sat upon by a Coroner, doctor, or eleven Jurymen!
The Coroner: Gentlemen, I must ask you to consider your verdict.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not agree.
The Coroner: Then, gentlemen, I shall have to lock you up until you have agreed.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not sign the paper until I have seen that cabman. If you had got thirteen Jurymen I would retire.
A Juryman: That has got nothing to do with the Inquest. The cabman does not know whether he has a right to put a corpse in his cab or not.
The Foreman: We are not in a pot-house, gentlemen.
Mr Hawkins: That cabman has not been brought here yet.
The Coroner: I cannot have this wrangling, gentlemen. I am here to do my duty.
Mr Hawkins: I want that cabman.
The Coroner: Mr Clapp will tell you that there was no infection.
Eventually Mace Sergeant Meardon came into Court and said that the cabman's name was Brooks. The latter came into Court, and several questions were put to him by Mr Hawkins.
The Foreman: Mr Coroner, what are we to do?
A Juryman: You have had the man's name, Mr Hawkins, and is that not enough.
Another Juryman: You are like a fool, Mr Hawkins.
Mr Hawkins: I may be so. I have a perfect right to speak out what I think.
A Juryman: For your own benefit.
Mr Hawkins: Not for my benefit, but for the benefit of the poor of Exeter.
The Coroner: I can't allow this.
Mr Hawkins: A Juryman has called me a fool, and I am not going to allow anyone to round on me. I am not speaking out of any ill-feelings.
The Coroner: I don't think you are.
Mr Hawkins: I am satisfied as to the cause of death.
A Juryman: Why do you want to keep us here for?
Mr Hawkins: I would suggest that the cabman be paid for coming here.
A Juryman: Out of your own pocket, Mr Hawkins.
Mr Hawkins: No, not out of my pocket. The city can pay for bringing a corpse to the Police Station, and should therefore pay for obtaining evidence.
A Juryman: You pay the cabman.
Mr Hawkins: There was no necessity to bring the child to the Police Station. It was my desire to go and see how the poor lived. The Inquest ought to have been held at Cricklepit-street.
The Coroner: I had the Inquest held here for the convenience of the Jury.
The Foreman: The Jury are of opinion that the death was a natural one.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not sign unless you add a rider to the effect that a Juryman considered that there was no necessity to bring the child's body to the police station.
The Coroner: I cannot do that.
Mace Sergeant Meardon: Shall I get another Jury?
The Coroner: You cannot do that.
Mr Hawkins: I have given my opinion, and I shall stick to it.
The Foreman: You won't agree unless the rider is added?
Mr Hawkins: No, I won't. I was asked to sit on the Jury, and I have a perfect right to hold an opinion.
A Juryman: Better fit you had stopped away. We should have been home and had some tea by this time.
The Foreman: What's the alternative, Mr Coroner?
The Coroner: I shall have to lock you up until you have agreed. I am very sorry, gentlemen, that this court should be disturbed in such a manner.
Mr Hawkins: I should have liked to have gone to the house in Cricklepit-street.
A Juryman: then I should not.
Mr Hawkins: You can take the verdict of the eleven gentlemen if you like, but I will stick out.
The Jury were then locked up, and the reporters were asked to retire.
After a lapse of about ten minutes the Jury returned a verdict of "Death from Natural Causes."
Saturday 20 January 1894, Issue 8271 – Gale Document No. Y3200755960
An Inquest on JAMES FURZE, who met with an accident at the Sourton Lime Quarries on November 21st, the Jury returned a verdict that the deceased met his death from inflammation of the brain, the result of an accident caused by an explosion of gelignite.
Saturday 20 January 1894, Issue 8271 – Gale Document No. Y3200755967
SUDDEN DEATH AT TEIGNMOUTH – Mr Sidney Hacker, District Coroner, held an Inquest on Wednesday at the Teignmouth Infirmary, relative to the death of SARAH GERMAN, who died sudde3nly at the residence of her master (Mr W. H. Whiteway), Inverteign, on Monday afternoon. AMELIA JACKSON, of Ashburton, sister, stated that deceased was a spinster, and was forty-six years of age the day she died. The deceased formerly lived with a Dr Forman, who told her that she would die suddenly, because she had more spirit than strength. Lena Philips, a nurse in the same employ ,said deceased went out for a walk on Monday and returned about one o'clock. A little while after she heard one of the children screaming, and with the housemaid went to the nursery, where they found deceased lying on the floor. They rubbed her and called the master. She had been complaining of pains in the head. After hearing the evidence of Mr Whiteway-Wilkinson and Dr Sittle, who attributed death to sudden syncope, the heart being in a very weak state, the Jury returned a verdict of "Death from Natural Causes."
INQUEST IN EXETER - Scene in Court. Ordering the Jury to be Locked Up.
Lively Proceedings - Removing a Dead Body in a Cab.
At the Exeter Police Court on Monday Mr H. W. Hooper, City Coroner, held an Inquiry into the circumstances attending the death of ROSE ANNIE LILY HEARN. Mr W. H. Hampton was chosen Foreman of the Jury. Inspector Hart, of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, was present.
CATHERINE HEARN, wife of JOSEPH PATRICK HEARN, a rag and bone collector, residing at No. 2, Cricklepit-street, identified the body as that of her daughter who was fourteen months of age. Witness fed the child on bread, sugar and milk. The child was found dead in bed this morning about nine o'clock. Deceased's life was insured, but "she was not payable."
Mr Hawkins (a Juryman): You say the child's life is insured? Witness: Yes, but I shall not get any money, as the deceased is not payable.
Mr Hawkins: How was the child brought to the Police Station from Cricklepit-street?
The Coroner: In a cab by my orders. I did it for your convenience, because I thought it would be better for you to come here and hold the Inquest than go to Cricklepit-street.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman who brought the corpse to the station.
The Coroner: I do not know.
Mr Hawkins: Has a cabman a right to take a dead body into his cab?
The Coroner: Certainly; I gave orders.
Mr Hawkins: I doubt whether a man has a right to take a dead body in a licensed carriage.
The Coroner: I know the law on the matter.
Mr Hawkins: I don't care for that. I have my opinion, and the Coroner has his. I shall object.
The Coroner: You can object as much as you like.
Mr Hawkins: I shall sir. I am speaking feelingly. I want to know the name of the cabman who brought the child to the Police Station.
The Coroner: That has nothing to do with it.
Mr Hawkins: We are here as Jurymen, and not to have our mouths shut up.
The Coroner: The cabman brought the deceased to the Police Station through my orders.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman, and I will have it. We are not a lot of dummies.
The Coroner: I must ask you to sit down and be quiet.
Mr Hawkins: If you answer my question I will. We as Jurymen are entitled to put questions and have answers.
The Coroner: Certainly.
Mr Hawkins: I want the name of that cabman. If you keep us here until tomorrow night I'll have it. I consider that is necessary.
The Coroner: I tell you it was done through my orders.
Mr Hawkins: Do you know the number of the cab?
The Coroner: No, I don't.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know whether a cab driver can put a corpse in his cab?
The Coroner: Certainly.
Mr Hawkins: I shall find out.
The Coroner: So you can.
Inspector Hart: Mr Coroner, I should like to ask the witness (MRS HEARN) a question.
The Coroner: Are you on the Jury?
Inspector Hart: I am here watching the proceedings on behalf of the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children.
The Coroner: Then you can ask questions.
Mr Hart then asked questions.
A Juryman (to MRS HEARN) How long ago did you say the child was ill?
The mother: About seven or eight weeks ago.
A Juryman: How long ago did you insure the deceased.
Witness: About a fortnight before her illness.
Mr Clapp, surgeon, residing and practising in Exeter, proved attending the deceased a good time before death. Witness was called yesterday morning when he found the child dead in bed. He examined the body, and found no marks of violence. In his opinion death was due to convulsions. All the children of the previous witness were unhealthy.
The Foreman: Would the way in which the mother fed the child have anything to do with the death?
Mr Clapp: I don't think so.
Mr Hawkins: You say, sir that the children of the woman are unhealthy?
Mr Clapp: Yes.
Mr Hawkins: You last visited this child on the 24th of December, did you not?
Mr Clapp: Yes.
Mr Hawkins: then did you consider that the child was perfectly well?
Mr Clapp: I considered the deceased was then in tolerably good health. I thought she was sufficiently well.
Mr Hawkins: Are you a parish doctor?
Mr Clapp: I am.
Mr Hawkins: I thought so. Not that I am going to comment on that. If another medical man had been called in would he not have visited the child later than you did?
Mr Clapp: I shall not answer that question. At that time I considered the child was sufficiently well.
Mr Hawkins: What is the state of health of the children of MRS HEARN?
Mr Clapp: Not very good. One of them died a short time since at the Sanatorium.
Mr Hawkins: Was there any fever in this particular case?
Mr Clapp: No, sir.
Mr Hawkins: I was going to suggest that the Sanitary Inspector might disinfect this cab.
The Coroner: There was no infection.
Mr Hawkins: I want to know the name of the cabman. I shall not consider the verdict without that. If you are (turning around to his fellow Jurymen) I am not. I want to know the name of that cabman.
Mace Sergeant Meardon: I don't know exactly where to find him now.
Mr Hawkins: I don't care where he is. He may be gone out to Ide for all I care.
The Coroner: I will pledge you that you shall have his name.
Mr Hawkins: I am here, and I have been sworn as a Juryman. It is necessary to have it, and have it I will.
Mr Clapp: There is no law that corpses shall not be taken in a cab.
Mr Hawkins: I am talking to the Coroner, and not to you, Mr Clapp.
The Coroner (to Mr Hawkins): I must ask you to be quiet.
Mr Hawkins: Then why not stop Mr Clapp. I am not going to consider the verdict until I have seen that cabman.
A Juryman: That is rubbish.
Mr Hawkins: That may be so. You can keep me here until nine o'clock if you like, but I will have the name of the cabman. If the cabman is allowed to take a corpse through the city in a licensed hackney carriage I can do my funeral work five shilling cheaper.
A Juryman: That has nothing to do with the cause of death.
Mr Hawkins: I know that. I want to know if a cabman has a right to put a corpse in his licensed cab. I am not going to be sat upon by a Coroner, doctor, or eleven Jurymen!
The Coroner: Gentlemen, I must ask you to consider your verdict.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not agree.
The Coroner: Then, gentlemen, I shall have to lock you up until you have agreed.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not sign the paper until I have seen that cabman. If you had got thirteen Jurymen I would retire.
A Juryman: That has got nothing to do with the Inquest. The cabman does not know whether he has a right to put a corpse in his cab or not.
The Foreman: We are not in a pot-house, gentlemen.
Mr Hawkins: That cabman has not been brought here yet.
The Coroner: I cannot have this wrangling, gentlemen. I am here to do my duty.
Mr Hawkins: I want that cabman.
The Coroner: Mr Clapp will tell you that there was no infection.
Eventually Mace Sergeant Meardon came into Court and said that the cabman's name was Brooks. The latter came into Court, and several questions were put to him by Mr Hawkins.
The Foreman: Mr Coroner, what are we to do?
A Juryman: You have had the man's name, Mr Hawkins, and is that not enough.
Another Juryman: You are like a fool, Mr Hawkins.
Mr Hawkins: I may be so. I have a perfect right to speak out what I think.
A Juryman: For your own benefit.
Mr Hawkins: Not for my benefit, but for the benefit of the poor of Exeter.
The Coroner: I can't allow this.
Mr Hawkins: A Juryman has called me a fool, and I am not going to allow anyone to round on me. I am not speaking out of any ill-feelings.
The Coroner: I don't think you are.
Mr Hawkins: I am satisfied as to the cause of death.
A Juryman: Why do you want to keep us here for?
Mr Hawkins: I would suggest that the cabman be paid for coming here.
A Juryman: Out of your own pocket, Mr Hawkins.
Mr Hawkins: No, not out of my pocket. The city can pay for bringing a corpse to the Police Station, and should therefore pay for obtaining evidence.
A Juryman: You pay the cabman.
Mr Hawkins: There was no necessity to bring the child to the Police Station. It was my desire to go and see how the poor lived. The Inquest ought to have been held at Cricklepit-street.
The Coroner: I had the Inquest held here for the convenience of the Jury.
The Foreman: The Jury are of opinion that the death was a natural one.
Mr Hawkins: I shall not sign unless you add a rider to the effect that a Juryman considered that there was no necessity to bring the child's body to the police station.
The Coroner: I cannot do that.
Mace Sergeant Meardon: Shall I get another Jury?
The Coroner: You cannot do that.
Mr Hawkins: I have given my opinion, and I shall stick to it.
The Foreman: You won't agree unless the rider is added?
Mr Hawkins: No, I won't. I was asked to sit on the Jury, and I have a perfect right to hold an opinion.
A Juryman: Better fit you had stopped away. We should have been home and had some tea by this time.
The Foreman: What's the alternative, Mr Coroner?
The Coroner: I shall have to lock you up until you have agreed. I am very sorry, gentlemen, that this court should be disturbed in such a manner.
Mr Hawkins: I should have liked to have gone to the house in Cricklepit-street.
A Juryman: then I should not.
Mr Hawkins: You can take the verdict of the eleven gentlemen if you like, but I will stick out.
The Jury were then locked up, and the reporters were asked to retire.
After a lapse of about ten minutes the Jury returned a verdict of "Death from Natural Causes."
Saturday 20 January 1894, Issue 8271 – Gale Document No. Y3200755960
An Inquest on JAMES FURZE, who met with an accident at the Sourton Lime Quarries on November 21st, the Jury returned a verdict that the deceased met his death from inflammation of the brain, the result of an accident caused by an explosion of gelignite.
Saturday 20 January 1894, Issue 8271 – Gale Document No. Y3200755967
SUDDEN DEATH AT TEIGNMOUTH – Mr Sidney Hacker, District Coroner, held an Inquest on Wednesday at the Teignmouth Infirmary, relative to the death of SARAH GERMAN, who died sudde3nly at the residence of her master (Mr W. H. Whiteway), Inverteign, on Monday afternoon. AMELIA JACKSON, of Ashburton, sister, stated that deceased was a spinster, and was forty-six years of age the day she died. The deceased formerly lived with a Dr Forman, who told her that she would die suddenly, because she had more spirit than strength. Lena Philips, a nurse in the same employ ,said deceased went out for a walk on Monday and returned about one o'clock. A little while after she heard one of the children screaming, and with the housemaid went to the nursery, where they found deceased lying on the floor. They rubbed her and called the master. She had been complaining of pains in the head. After hearing the evidence of Mr Whiteway-Wilkinson and Dr Sittle, who attributed death to sudden syncope, the heart being in a very weak state, the Jury returned a verdict of "Death from Natural Causes."
