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Post by rubl on Jul 20, 2017 0:05:38 GMT 7
Brought forward to 2037-2039? Tjeez, for me it's at 67 years and 3 months, in December 2022 !! "Rise in UK pension age brought forward by seven years The change is in line with increases in life expectancy, the government said. The U.K. government on Wednesday said the state pension age will rise to 68 during the period 2037-2039, rather than in 2046 as originally proposed." www.politico.eu/article/rise-in-uk-pension-age-brought-forward-by-seven-years/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 6:08:45 GMT 7
Brought forward to 2037-2039? Tjeez, for me it's at 67 years and 3 months, in December 2022 !! "Rise in UK pension age brought forward by seven years The change is in line with increases in life expectancy, the government said. The U.K. government on Wednesday said the state pension age will rise to 68 during the period 2037-2039, rather than in 2046 as originally proposed." www.politico.eu/article/rise-in-uk-pension-age-brought-forward-by-seven-years/Fine - twenty years notice is enough for those who plan ahead. Two hundred years notice is not enough for those that don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 6:16:45 GMT 7
We'll hear repetitive arguments about this while we all know that retirement now is a dramatically different beast than it was thirty/forty years ago.
Advances in medical technology have seen an improvement in general health for the elderly. It's no longer the God's Waiting Room of yesteryear.
They should now cancel every penny of heart and cancer research and pump every single coin into dementia research.
Death is death, dementia is a zombified living death.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 6:17:38 GMT 7
I don't think they gave Aussies that much warning. My age bracket means I have to wait til I'm 67 to be eligible, which will only be an issue if I can go back to work in the meantime.
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Post by Mosha on Jul 20, 2017 7:39:15 GMT 7
A friend of mine was living in Manila living on his redundancy until he got his company pension at 50. The govt changed the rules 1 month before he got it, and he moved back to the UK.
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Post by chiangmai on Jul 20, 2017 7:46:55 GMT 7
Twenty years notice really is enough time to make the necessary changes, I was reading this morning the unions take on this change and they make it sound like a preemptive nuclear strike. They of course cited that this was yet another blow by the Tories in the faces of low paid health care workers blah blah, sad that people can't put such things into perspective rather than trying to make political capital.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 8:34:42 GMT 7
We'll hear repetitive arguments about this while we all know that retirement now is a dramatically different beast than it was thirty/forty years ago. Advances in medical technology have seen an improvement in general health for the elderly. It's no longer the God's Waiting Room of yesteryear. They should now cancel every penny of heart and cancer research and pump every single coin into dementia research. Death is death, dementia is a zombified living death. Harsh. Not every cancer means death and if someone close to you dies before their time because of cancer you'd hope they pump money into finding a cure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 8:44:05 GMT 7
We'll hear repetitive arguments about this while we all know that retirement now is a dramatically different beast than it was thirty/forty years ago. Advances in medical technology have seen an improvement in general health for the elderly. It's no longer the God's Waiting Room of yesteryear. They should now cancel every penny of heart and cancer research and pump every single coin into dementia research. Death is death, dementia is a zombified living death. Harsh. Not every cancer means death and if someone close to you dies before their time because of cancer you'd hope they pump money into finding a cure. I've had relatives die of cancer. And you're wrong. I have far more empathy for people who's lives are dominated by looking after relatives with dementia. It's a nightmare. Dementia research has to be top priority for several reasons, one being allowing the elderly in that position to live as full a life as possible. Better off dead than a living zombie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 8:49:50 GMT 7
One pal of mine looked after his Mum for five years before admitting defeat - five years of life suspended.
His mother lived a further four years in a care home. He was there more than necessary, not as much as he would have liked.
She died.
Well, the doctor issued a death certificate - the reality is, the woman she was died years before.
Think about it.
Do you want that for yourself?
Do you want your kids showing up looking at a breathing corpse?
Of course you don't.
Every coin to dementia research, and once we can at least slow it down, feel free to go back to heart and cancer research.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 8:58:11 GMT 7
But Im not saying don't throw money at dementia.
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Post by chiangmai on Jul 20, 2017 8:59:48 GMT 7
I'm very much with blether on this, I've lost my mother and brother in law to dementia and it was excruciating to watch, I just hope I have the wherewithal to be able to act on my own behalf if it looks like I'm approaching the same stage. I had a pact with my ex wife on this point since we shared the same views, sadly my Thai wife wont enter into such an agreement.
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Post by rubl on Jul 20, 2017 9:03:18 GMT 7
We'll hear repetitive arguments about this while we all know that retirement now is a dramatically different beast than it was thirty/forty years ago. Advances in medical technology have seen an improvement in general health for the elderly. It's no longer the God's Waiting Room of yesteryear. They should now cancel every penny of heart and cancer research and pump every single coin into dementia research. Death is death, dementia is a zombified living death. Don't agree they should cancel every penny on heart/cancer research, but a scale down may be in order. Just a week ago it was reported that in the Netherlands dementia is identified as upcoming decease #1 with numbers of sufferers having doubled in 2050. Number of people who die of this decease might have tripled in 2040. Ministry of Health investigating possible shift needed in 'care' and research. A life expectancy of 86 sounds nice but personally I'd like to add 'when in reasonable health'
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Post by smokie36 on Jul 20, 2017 9:07:30 GMT 7
We should just get rid of the state pension altogether starting today.
Because that is basically what is happening to those my age....each extra year of work over 60 reduces the length of your life considerably and there is research out there to back it up.
So I say send you all back to work and save a few quid.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 9:42:59 GMT 7
I will sit on the fence for this one, nobody wants to see anyone go through any of the above mentioned diseases.
I had the misfortune to spend 7 months in three different hospitals where I was actually one of the "young ones". Saw lots of elderly people suffering from strokes, cancer, dementia etc. I had no idea what cancer could do to you, I was lucky and sailed through the chemo treatment for six months, but I still remember the sounds of other patients in the four bed room moaning with pain at night. Some of those people I became friends with, used to make toast for one old fellow who sat with me in the dining room when I was in Tamworth Base hospital, his hands shook so bad he couldn't put the butter and strawberry jam on the bread. His wife thanked me for it, they were lovely people. A couple of those old guys died within a week of leaving that ward and going to an aged care home.
If I had the chance, and the money I would donate to all of the different researches, could not choose one over the other.
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Post by Mosha on Jul 20, 2017 9:57:27 GMT 7
Looking after a parent with Alzheimer's sucks. I've posted about his last night at home if not here certainly at the other place. I'd not wish my experience on anyone.
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