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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 20:30:11 GMT 7
Let me try to explain this story succinctly.
Thai mum, Canadian Dad.
Dad was struck down by a devastating stroke.
Girl was aged two at the time.
IMO, the Mum did a great job looking after him in his vegetative state.
Canadian son disagreed, after four years, he took his Dad home.
Dad died.
I paid the international school fees for the girl the year her Dad died.
The Canadian family have disappeared.
Two questions.......
Shall I pursue the Canadians in regards to her passport and future educational needs?
Should I step in and financially adopt her?
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 18, 2017 20:41:50 GMT 7
1, forget the Canadians.
2, where is the kid right now?
3, where is the mother right now?
4, as a farang trying to adopt someone elses kid, forget it.
5, just pay for the kids education, and make dammed sure thats where the money is going, and not to support some new husband that doesnt give a toss about someone elses kid.
6, the path to hell is paved with good intentions.
7, no good deed ever goes unpunished.
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Post by siampolee on Dec 18, 2017 20:50:51 GMT 7
Cynic that he is, or perhaps a better word would be ''realist.''
rgs is right on target Somethings are best left alone.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 18, 2017 21:31:05 GMT 7
^^^^ Little story for you.
I posted before about Somchai who basically drank himself to death.
His widow went to his company the other week to see about picking up his insurance company money.
Palmed off by some bird in the office, no yet ready, blah blah blah.
To cut a long story short, someone in the office had ripped off his illiterate wife, and had the benefits paid into her own bank account.
All hell broke loose, facesaving story now is, I put it into my bank acount to keep it safe for you.
How effin low can you get, riping off a dead man and his widow?
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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 18, 2017 22:11:20 GMT 7
^^^^,  , seems like it was a husband and wife team. The mrs was just telling me, the funeral ledger has just been called for, same same wedding ledger, everything is noted by name and amount. You really couldnt make this up. |
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Post by me on Dec 18, 2017 23:06:55 GMT 7
Let me try to explain this story succinctly. Thai qmum, Canadian Dad. Dad was struck down by a devastating stroke. Girl was aged two at the time. IMO, the Mum did a great job looking after him in his vegetative state. Canadian son disagreed, after four years, he took his Dad home. Dad died. I paid the international school fees for the girl the year her Dad died. The Canadian family have disappeared. Two questions....... Shall I pursue the Canadians in regards to her passport and future educational needs? Should I step in and financially adopt her? I think you should check on her rights to Canadian citizenship if you can. May not matter now but there may be a time it does. As far as the school goes it would be great if you can help her. At least you can make sure the money goes to the right place and not into a charities pocket. one thing though, it may under her new circumstances turn out an International school may not be the best choice. There are some good Thai schools here too. One of my nieces is just finishing Unit this year, the cost about 15000baht a term plus 3000 baht a month single room rent and 3000 a month food and sundries her mother and father are dead.. The other in an English program at a good Thai high school for from 12000 to 15000 a term which I helped while her father was not in a position to but he is paying now. Her grades are round 3.4 so she works hard. A little money can make a big difference in a couple of peoples lives if spent wisely. I hope your friend's child can do as well. It would be best though if her Canadian family could be persuaded to contribute....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 2:11:48 GMT 7
Makes me wonder why the Canadians just disappeared like that?
And why didn't the husband leave his finances to his his wife?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 7:24:26 GMT 7
1, forget the Canadians. 2, where is the kid right now? 3, where is the mother right now? 4, as a farang trying to adopt someone elses kid, forget it. 5, just pay for the kids education, and make dammed sure thats where the money is going, and not to support some new husband that doesnt give a toss about someone elses kid. 6, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. 7, no good deed ever goes unpunished. To clarify, I'm talking about financially adopting, not adopting. Your points are valid. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 7:27:25 GMT 7
Makes me wonder why the Canadians just disappeared like that? And why didn't the husband leave his finances to his his wife? The man left behind a couple of sons, I remember one in particular struggling to fund a trip to visit his ill Dad in Thailand. I get the idea it's beyond their financial ability. I don't know re the on going finances - I again remember there being a lot of money spent on repatriation and nursing care. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 7:31:35 GMT 7
Let me try to explain this story succinctly. Thai qmum, Canadian Dad. Dad was struck down by a devastating stroke. Girl was aged two at the time. IMO, the Mum did a great job looking after him in his vegetative state. Canadian son disagreed, after four years, he took his Dad home. Dad died. I paid the international school fees for the girl the year her Dad died. The Canadian family have disappeared. Two questions....... Shall I pursue the Canadians in regards to her passport and future educational needs? Should I step in and financially adopt her? I think you should check on her rights to Canadian citizenship if you can. May not matter now but there may be a time it does. As far as the school goes it would be great if you can help her. At least you can make sure the money goes to the right place and not into a charities pocket. one thing though, it may under her new circumstances turn out an International school may not be the best choice. There are some good Thai schools here too. One of my nieces is just finishing Unit this year, the cost about 15000baht a term plus 3000 baht a month single room rent and 3000 a month food and sundries her mother and father are dead.. The other in an English program at a good Thai high school for from 12000 to 15000 a term which I helped while her father was not in a position to but he is paying now. Her grades are round 3.4 so she works hard. A little money can make a big difference in a couple of peoples lives if spent wisely. I hope your friend's child can do as well. It would be best though if her Canadian family could be persuaded to contribute....
Yes re the Canadian citizenship. I remember one of the Canadian family introducing the girl to people as his sister. Even if they can't afford to help her in cash terms, it would be decent of them to assist in ensuring she gets a passport, which will open up the world to her. If I do this, it's to give her a chance that may be otherwise denied to her. However, as rgs and sp have pointed out, t's maybe best to leave alone. Don't know. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 19, 2017 7:51:57 GMT 7
Makes me wonder why the Canadians just disappeared like that? And why didn't the husband leave his finances to his his wife? The man left behind a couple of sons, I remember one in particular struggling to fund a trip to visit his ill Dad in Thailand. I get the idea it's beyond their financial ability. I don't know re the on going finances - I again remember there being a lot of money spent on repatriation and nursing care. I doubt masses of cash were spent on nursing care blether as Canada has a healthcare system similar to that of the UK. I smell a bit of them and us from the Canadian family who its possible the dad left behind for a reason. Murky waters there....then of course the question of the girl's future. Assuming she is about eight years old now you are talking about a decade of support....only you can answer that question and you should base it upon what criteria? Has she a stable home life? What is yhier financial position now and going forward? Your own gut feeling. Not an easy decision if the Canadian family refuse to take any responsibility for one of their own. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 9:15:17 GMT 7
The man left behind a couple of sons, I remember one in particular struggling to fund a trip to visit his ill Dad in Thailand. I get the idea it's beyond their financial ability. I don't know re the on going finances - I again remember there being a lot of money spent on repatriation and nursing care. I doubt masses of cash were spent on nursing care blether as Canada has a healthcare system similar to that of the UK. I smell a bit of them and us from the Canadian family who its possible the dad left behind for a reason. Murky waters there....then of course the question of the girl's future. Assuming she is about eight years old now you are talking about a decade of support....only you can answer that question and you should base it upon what criteria? Has she a stable home life? What is yhier financial position now and going forward? Your own gut feeling. Not an easy decision if the Canadian family refuse to take any responsibility for one of their own. The guy ended up in private care in Canada, after private home care in Thailand. He died in a private care home, I think he was sent there after being assessed by the Canadian health service. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 19, 2017 9:35:45 GMT 7
I doubt masses of cash were spent on nursing care blether as Canada has a healthcare system similar to that of the UK. I smell a bit of them and us from the Canadian family who its possible the dad left behind for a reason. Murky waters there....then of course the question of the girl's future. Assuming she is about eight years old now you are talking about a decade of support....only you can answer that question and you should base it upon what criteria? Has she a stable home life? What is yhier financial position now and going forward? Your own gut feeling. Not an easy decision if the Canadian family refuse to take any responsibility for one of their own. The guy ended up in private care in Canada, after private home care in Thailand. He died in a private care home, I think he was sent there after being assessed by the Canadian health service. In that case assets he had in Canada have probably gone. Not the brightest of moves by his kids. |
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Post by me on Dec 19, 2017 12:07:27 GMT 7
I think you should check on her rights to Canadian citizenship if you can. May not matter now but there may be a time it does. As far as the school goes it would be great if you can help her. At least you can make sure the money goes to the right place and not into a charities pocket. one thing though, it may under her new circumstances turn out an International school may not be the best choice. There are some good Thai schools here too. One of my nieces is just finishing Unit this year, the cost about 15000baht a term plus 3000 baht a month single room rent and 3000 a month food and sundries her mother and father are dead.. The other in an English program at a good Thai high school for from 12000 to 15000 a term which I helped while her father was not in a position to but he is paying now. Her grades are round 3.4 so she works hard. A little money can make a big difference in a couple of peoples lives if spent wisely. I hope your friend's child can do as well. It would be best though if her Canadian family could be persuaded to contribute....
Yes re the Canadian citizenship. I remember one of the Canadian family introducing the girl to people as his sister. Even if they can't afford to help her in cash terms, it would be decent of them to assist in ensuring she gets a passport, which will open up the world to her. If I do this, it's to give her a chance that may be otherwise denied to her. However, as rgs and sp have pointed out, t's maybe best to leave alone. Don't know. Hard to know. It is up to you. Education is the thing that makes the most difference to most people's lives but I would suggest you do not go overboard with this. That is why I quoted the amounts above. They are more than adequate. I personally do not thin it is good to send a child to an International School (except perhaps one of the lower priced Catholic ones.(most of the Church I detest but they did do well with the schools if you kept the priests away.) unless the familly is fairly wealthy in which case you would not need to help. Rich kids can be hard on a poor kid and expectations can be even more unmanageable than before. Incidently I understand the citisenship is a right and would not need the family if the details on a birth certificate. I may have read that wrong though. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 19, 2017 12:22:38 GMT 7
Its difficult to offer anything else without knowing the ins and outs of why the Canadian family took their father home.
Was it to protect assets or out of sheer concern for his wellbeing?
That no offer has been made by them could be a lack of funds as you said blether or it could be their priorities are not where they should be.
I'd explore that perhaps in an email to them and try to get under their skin.
I'm confident you can manage that haha.
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, seems like it was a husband and wife team.
