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Post by Soutpeel on May 28, 2018 17:26:07 GMT 7
White Sasol employees allowed to strike after being excluded from share plan South African government mediators ruled that workers at Sasol Ltd, the world’s biggest producer of motor fuel from coal, are allowed to strike over the exclusion of white staff from an employee-shareholding plan. Solidarity, a labor union that represents skilled, mainly white workers, registered a dispute with the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration, or CCMA, after Sasol introduced benefits that it said would exclude workers based on race. South African businesses have implemented plans since democratic elections in 1994 that aim to redress economic inequalities stemming from white-minority rule under apartheid. “The commissioner ruled in our favor saying that this is a strikeable dispute,” Deon Reyneke, the deputy general secretary at Solidarity, said by phone. businesstech.co.za/news/business/247597/white-sasol-employees-allowed-to-strike-after-being-excluded-from-share-plan/
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Post by rubl on May 28, 2018 18:14:54 GMT 7
Ah, the joys of positive discrimination. Surely after 24 years all of South African population are equally well off. Apart from a few leaders who earned a bit of consideration for their efforts of course. Surely Black South Africans can be happy, if only because their government tells them to be. Things may have been wrong before 1994 but I don't really see much improvement after the 'handover'
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Post by Soutpeel on May 28, 2018 18:22:43 GMT 7
Ah, the joys of positive discrimination. Surely after 24 years all of South African population are equally well off. Apart from a few leaders who earned a bit of consideration for their efforts of course. Surely Black South Africans can be happy, if only because their government tells them to be. Things may have been wrong before 1994 but I don't really see much improvement after the 'handover' As i have said before all that has happened is a black elite has replaced a white elite, many who voted to put the ANC in control are far worse off now than they ever were, all they have gained is the ability to put an "X" on a ballot paper
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Post by AyG on May 28, 2018 19:24:10 GMT 7
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Post by Soutpeel on May 28, 2018 19:48:37 GMT 7
Funny thing is, i wonder how much of that land is actually owned by the person"s" working/living on that land, and how much is actually owned by the banks via mortgage ? The banks will not be happy, thus fking up the economy even more, international investors will not invest due to prospect of their investments being stolen.. But none of this is suprising given the vast majority of the ANC are marxists with primary school educations
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Post by smokie36 on May 28, 2018 20:30:10 GMT 7
Not a great time or indeed future being white in SA.
But then for many years was not a place to be black.
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Post by smokie36 on May 28, 2018 20:32:10 GMT 7
Funny thing is, i wonder how much of that land is actually owned by the person"s" working/living on that land, and how much is actually owned by the banks via mortgage ? The banks will not be happy, thus fking up the economy even more, international investors will not invest due to prospect of their investments being stolen.. But none of this is suprising given the vast majority of the ANC are marxists with primary school educations Why do they have primary school educations Soutie? All coming home to roost is the phrase popping around my head. The next Zimbabwe too most probably.
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Post by rubl on May 28, 2018 21:32:56 GMT 7
Not a great time or indeed future being white in SA. But then for many years was not a place to be black. It's still not fun to be black there. Being discriminated against by your own people doesn't really make you feel much better.
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Post by siampolee on May 28, 2018 21:37:19 GMT 7
I fear that the time is nearing when Souh Africa degenerates into a horrific blood bath, tribal violence.politcal violence, religious issues land theft the scope is certainly frightening. Rhodes was pretty fair to the blacks but they were kept in line as he knew their limitations. The Boers? Possibly brutal at the time but possibly the right actions. To be brutally honest and no doubt maligned by some for making thr following comment, ''It would seem as if many of the natives in that region still need to evolve a little further to catch up with the rest of the human race, such as it is.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 28, 2018 21:42:43 GMT 7
Its like Lord of The Flies over there, can be summed up in one word, tribalism. Cant help but wonder what Spike Lee, Whoopi and Oprah have to say on the matter, blacks live matter, oh effin .
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Post by smokie36 on May 28, 2018 22:32:03 GMT 7
I can smell the froth from our tvf lurkers SirPolee
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Post by Soutpeel on May 29, 2018 8:56:38 GMT 7
Not a great time or indeed future being white in SA. But then for many years was not a place to be black. It's still not fun to be black there. Being discriminated against by your own people doesn't really make you feel much better. The simplist and distorted view propagated by the media is black versus white, not that simple 13 black tribes, the Zulus hate the xhosa, except those Zulus who betrayed the King, Jacob Zuma being one.. the tribes discrminate and hate against each other. Then we have Whiteys Cape coloured who are not white, and not black either, given their Dutch/Koi San/indonesian origins Indians, mainly around the Natal area Chinese, all over And the newest group in the last 25 years "The illegals" - Nigerians, Zimbabwe, Angola, Mozambique - hated and discriminated against by the native black South Africans and attacked on a regular basis by ANC cadres, burning their shacks and sparzas down etc etc
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Post by Soutpeel on May 29, 2018 9:02:28 GMT 7
I fear that the time is nearing when Souh Africa degenerates into a horrific blood bath, tribal violence.politcal violence, religious issues land theft the scope is certainly frightening. Rhodes was pretty fair to the blacks but they were kept in line as he knew their limitations. The Boers? Possibly brutal at the time but possibly the right actions. To be brutally honest and no doubt maligned by some for making thr following comment, ''It would seem as if many of the natives in that region still need to evolve a little further to catch up with the rest of the human race, such as it is. The most brutal in part of the world were the British and Shaka kaSenzangakhona, aka Shaka Zulu, the Boers were light weights in comparison buzzsouthafrica.com/shaka-zulu/
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Post by Soutpeel on May 29, 2018 9:29:35 GMT 7
Funny thing is, i wonder how much of that land is actually owned by the person"s" working/living on that land, and how much is actually owned by the banks via mortgage ? The banks will not be happy, thus fking up the economy even more, international investors will not invest due to prospect of their investments being stolen.. But none of this is suprising given the vast majority of the ANC are marxists with primary school educations Why do they have primary school educations Soutie? All coming home to roost is the phrase popping around my head. The next Zimbabwe too most probably. Cos it was free and mandatory and under Marxist doctrine to quote a sociology article: Traditional Marxists see the education system as working in the interests of ruling class elites. According to the Marxist perspective on education, the system performs three functions for these elites:
Reproduces class inequality. Legitimates class inequality. It works in the interests of capitalist employersHence education was rejected by the vast majority of the cadres in line with being "good Marxist" Even under the darkest days of Apartheid, University education was provided in the Bantustans by the National party ie The University of Transkei, the University of Venda; the University of the North; and the University of Bopthutswana. Vista University was established with campuses in South Africa for the segregated African townships around Johannesburg, Pretoria, Benoni, Port Elizabeth, and Bloemfontein. Now granted they didnt get as much funding or resources as their comparable white Universities Yes things maybe coming home to roost, maybe one could suggest the settlers in SA didnt try hard enough to wipe out native populations as the settlers did in the US ie the Native Americans, the Aboriginals in Aussie or what the Israelis are trying to do with the Palistinians and it is interesting to see how sucessfull the US and Israeli versions of "Bantustans" actually have been with their "native reservations" on shite land and stealing land building walls around things to put people in ghetto's So it seems nothing has been learnt from what happened in SA during the period 1948 to 1990 ( i would say practically apartheid ended around 1988)
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Post by rubl on May 29, 2018 11:55:03 GMT 7
It's still not fun to be black there. Being discriminated against by your own people doesn't really make you feel much better. The simplist and distorted view propagated by the media is black versus white, not that simple 13 black tribes, the Zulus hate the xhosa, except those Zulus who betrayed the King, Jacob Zuma being one.. the tribes discrminate and hate against each other. Then we have Whiteys Cape coloured who are not white, and not black either, given their Dutch/Koi San/indonesian origins Indians, mainly around the Natal area Chinese, all over And the newest group in the last 25 years "The illegals" - Nigerians, Zimbabwe, Angola, Mozambique - hated and discriminated against by the native black South Africans and attacked on a regular basis by ANC cadres, burning their shacks and sparzas down etc etc May be not necessary, but to be sure when I wrote "being discrimination by own people" I meant black by black. I'm aware that's an over simplification as it's much more current rulers and their tribes people with others not important, should keep their mouth shut. Of course even own tribes people should also keep their mouths shut as their leaders know what's good for them. The illegals are just out to steal our wealth and therefore are 'vrij wild' (as in free targets). This may sound strange but I think even Stalin would disapprove, mad man as he was though.
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