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Post by siampolee on Jun 23, 2015 6:36:33 GMT 7
Might be a wise idea to remind both the Greeks and Angie baby just how cosy the last Greek/German love affair was in the 1940's. Memory serves me correct the Greeks jilted the Germans that time, perhaps Angie baby is feeling lovesick and wants to kiss and make up again.
In my opinion the sooner the U.K is out of the basket case of the E.U. the better. That ditch twixt the U.K. and mainland Europe is a wonderful natural barrier. Close the Chunnel and knackers to the E.U and its leeches.
We've bailed out Europe enough times in the past one way or another, time to send the wastrels away for good.
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Post by rubl on Jun 23, 2015 8:48:16 GMT 7
Might be a wise idea to remind both the Greeks and Angie baby just how cosy the last Greek/German love affair was in the 1940's. Memory serves me correct the Greeks jilted the Germans that time, perhaps Angie baby is feeling lovesick and wants to kiss and make up again. In my opinion the sooner the U.K is out of the basket case of the E.U. the better. That ditch twixt the U.K. and mainland Europe is a wonderful natural barrier. Close the Chunnel and knackers to the E.U and its leeches. We've bailed out Europe enough times in the past one way or another, time to send the wastrels away for good. To be fair, the "bail out" was always out of the pure goodness in your hearts
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Post by siampolee on Jun 23, 2015 10:35:15 GMT 7
And to be fair Rubl your folks were pretty helpful at the time too.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 23, 2015 14:52:13 GMT 7
Ah good old Angela, her ego and arrogance wont allow for a Greek exit, she would lose face big time by admitting she got it so wrong, she wouldnt want that blemish on her CV, much better to throw good money after bad, as long as someone else is paying. Talk about engaging in an exercise in futility, as the Yanks would say, "kick the can down the road" Meanwhile the bankers will pick up their bonuses, the EU gravy train thieves will continue to play us for fools and Angela will have an audience with Papa Frankie to see if she can be fast tracked to sainthood. Buy the Triumph, pick from here . . . www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/bike-selectorIs there really anything genuine to invest in these days when it involves the finance industry and can kicking printer button happy governments? May as well have fun. M, not so far from the truth. I watched a finance programme about Argentina a few months back, there are people there who pulled their money from the banks and invested in second hand American cars. The banking industry in Argentina was killing them that coupled with inflation and currency erosion. These people stored their cars in car parks, and took them out for a spin every couple of weeks, same people said they couldnt afford to buy the same cars with their worthless currency today. That link frightens me, motorcyle porn, , its bloody tempting though.
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Post by rubl on Jun 23, 2015 19:46:00 GMT 7
And to be fair Rubl your folks were pretty helpful at the time too. ... and just like the British out of the goodness of our hearts, out of altruism, because we like those pigs flying in the sky.
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 23, 2015 22:32:56 GMT 7
M, not so far from the truth. I watched a finance programme about Argentina a few months back, there are people there who pulled their money from the banks and invested in second hand American cars. The banking industry in Argentina was killing them that coupled with inflation and currency erosion. These people stored their cars in car parks, and took them out for a spin every couple of weeks, same people said they couldnt afford to buy the same cars with their worthless currency today. That link frightens me, motorcyle porn, , its bloody tempting though. That Bonneville T100's pretty classy. Much more interesting than bonds, funds and hedgerows and wot not.
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Post by rubl on Jun 24, 2015 9:52:10 GMT 7
It seems the Greek PM will go before the parliament to try to get opposition MPs to support his concessions as maybe 10 to 40 of his own Syriza party MPs may vote against. The coalition government has 149 + 13 out of 300 MPs.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 24, 2015 10:01:52 GMT 7
M, not so far from the truth. I watched a finance programme about Argentina a few months back, there are people there who pulled their money from the banks and invested in second hand American cars. The banking industry in Argentina was killing them that coupled with inflation and currency erosion. These people stored their cars in car parks, and took them out for a spin every couple of weeks, same people said they couldnt afford to buy the same cars with their worthless currency today. That link frightens me, motorcyle porn, , its bloody tempting though. That Bonneville T100's pretty classy. Much more interesting than bonds, funds and hedgerows and wot not. Motorbikes = Toys for little boys (and girls). Are those little lego bikes BTW? Have a motor bike ride once a year myself with mates up in Chiang Mai, Pai etc Lads weekend away. Nice.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 24, 2015 17:13:41 GMT 7
So looks like creditors weren't impressed by our Greek friends proposals. Article from 30 mins ago Bloomberg - Tsipras Says Creditors Didn’t Accept His Greek Aid Proposal bloom.bg/1Kc6qVy
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 24, 2015 18:13:59 GMT 7
So looks like creditors weren't impressed by our Greek friends proposals. Article from 30 mins ago Bloomberg - Tsipras Says Creditors Didn’t Accept His Greek Aid Proposal bloom.bg/1Kc6qVySomeone refused to kick the can. Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
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Post by siampolee on Jun 25, 2015 7:24:18 GMT 7
To be honest does any one expect the Greeks to pay up?
They(the Greeks) engineered their way into the E.U. via dubious accounting, falsified figures, fraud and outright lies in a pretty successful attempt to tap into the financial resources such as they were and are of the E.U.
Throw them out, financial parasite, leeches of the highest order they are as about much use as tits on a bull and about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard and about as wanted by the vast majority of the E.U. membership as a pork pie at Mecca.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 25, 2015 12:35:41 GMT 7
^^^^, no I dont expect them to pay up. The German & French banks think they will, . How much did the Cypriots have invested?. Seems to me the only ones with any sense in this are the Greeks themselves. Reminds me so much of The Wizard of Oz, once the curtain has been pulled back all is revealed.
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 25, 2015 13:43:55 GMT 7
To be honest does any one expect the Greeks to pay up? They(the Greeks) engineered their way into the E.U. via dubious accounting, falsified figures, fraud and outright lies in a pretty successful attempt to tap into the financial resources such as they were and are of the E.U. Throw them out, financial parasite, leeches of the highest order they are as about much use as tits on a bull and about as reliable as a chocolate fireguard and about as wanted by the vast majority of the E.U. membership as a pork pie at Mecca. Greece is simply a microcosm of the whole debt based monetary system. Ultimately, does anyone expect anyone to pay anything back? UK's no different. Look how many years the UK ever actually traded in the black. Still borrowing and forever will be until default.
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Post by siampolee on Jun 26, 2015 6:35:17 GMT 7
Indeed the debt business is a national pastime.
Owe the bank a thousand pounds, dollars, marks etc, they'll dun you.
Owe the bank a million pounds, dollars marks etc and they'll fall over themselves to lend you more money.
In truth the banksters are the root of the problem.
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Post by Fletchsmile on Jun 26, 2015 15:31:16 GMT 7
The comparison with a Wizard of Oz pantomime is spot on, and I've lost count of what number sequel we're on now. Not only does Greece borrow money off the people it owes money to so it can pay them back again, but they're now saying if Greece decides not to pay the IMF back, then that's not a "default", it's just being "in arrears". ================================================== Why It Won’t Be a Default If Greece Misses IMF Payment Next WeekIf Greece fails to pay the $1.7 billion it owes the International Monetary Fund on Tuesday, it might be worse for the lender than for Greece. There’s a difference between missing a payment to bond investors, and to an official institution such as the IMF. Under the fund’s policy, countries that miss payments are deemed to be in “arrears.” The Washington-based lender plans to stick to that language, rather than using the term “default,” IMF spokesman Gerry Rice said Thursday. The three major credit-rating companies have also said failure to pay the IMF wouldn’t constitute a formal default. So while the practical consequences for Greece may be temporary and small as long as the nation remains in talks with creditors for an accord, the blow to the IMF’s reputation as the world’s lender of last resort could be longer-lasting, making it tougher for the fund to win support for some future bailouts. contd. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-25/why-it-won-t-be-a-default-if-greece-misses-imf-payment-next-week
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