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Post by rubl on Jun 27, 2015 0:04:44 GMT 7
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Post by Mosha on Jun 27, 2015 7:40:29 GMT 7
All this reminds me of a guy I worked with. He had 5 credit cards. When I asked why he needed all those cards, he said "Well I couldn't afford to pay off the 1st card, so I got the 2nd to pay off the 1st, etc etc..."
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Post by siampolee on Jun 27, 2015 8:43:41 GMT 7
With regards to the statement made by the Greeks concerning their attitude towards the debts they have the answer is simple.
No need to pay you're now evicted from the E.U. thus your credit rating is nil.
Even lenders of the last resort will refuse you or the conditions that they apply will neuter your country's government and turn its people into debt bondage slaves.
Get the Greek parasitical bloodsucking leeches out of the E.U. short term cost high, long term costs low.
Nations who are in truth no more than lying professional debtors, con merchants in everlasting financial needs are a liability
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 27, 2015 8:45:36 GMT 7
With regards to the statement made by the Greeks concerning their attitude towards the debts they have the answer is simple. No need to pay you're now evicted from the E.U. thus your credit rating is nil. Even lenders of the last resort will refuse you or the conditions that they apply will neuter your country's government and turn its people into debt bondage slaves. Get the Greek parasitical bloodsucking leeches out of the E.U. short term cost high, long term costs low. Nations who are in truth no more than lying professional debtors, con merchants in everlasting financial needs are a liability The lender of last resort is Russia, or more specifically Vladimir Putin. He will not refuse.
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Post by siampolee on Jun 27, 2015 11:06:44 GMT 7
But do the Greeks understand the cost of taking their begging bowl to the Russians?
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 27, 2015 22:20:58 GMT 7
But do the Greeks understand the cost of taking their begging bowl to the Russians? Probably. Rock - hard place. Greece debt: Crisis meeting over bailout referendumGreece's creditors are holding a crisis meeting with the Greek finance minister after Athens called a referendum on the terms for a fresh bailout.Greek PM Alexis Tsipras called the referendum for 5 July, but Greece's current bailout expires on Tuesday. On Saturday, creditors are expected to address a Greek request to extend that bailout until the vote is completed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33299347
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Post by rubl on Jun 27, 2015 23:06:22 GMT 7
The Dutch news site www.nu.nl has some interesting titbits like . The support program will expire Tuesday night after which all financial support to Greece will be stopped. That's what Eurogroup chairman Dijsselbloem said Saturday afternoon. He also said Greece has broken up the meeting while it was still in progress. Het steunprogramma van de Europese geldschieters aan Griekenland verloopt dinsdagnacht, waarna verdere financiële steun aan het land wordt stopgezet. Dat zei Eurogroepvoorzitter Jeroen Dijsselbloem zaterdagmiddag tijdens een persconferentie na overleg met de Europese ministers van Financiën in Brussel. Griekenland heeft de onderhandelingen volgens hem onderbroken, terwijl deze "nog niet voltooid waren". www.nu.nl/politiek/4076923/steunprogramma-eu-griekenland-verloopt-dinsdagnacht.html. The Greek government calls on the public to vote 'no' in the referendum PM Tsipras proposed. This was said by the Minister of Interior Voutsis during a debate in parliament on Saturday afternoon. De Griekse regering roept het volk op om nee te stemmen bij het door premier Alexis Tsipras voorgestelde referendum over de financiële situatie van het land. Dat deed de Griekse minister van Binnenlandse Zaken Nikos Voutsis zaterdagmiddag tijdens een debat van het Griekse parlement over dit referendum. www.nu.nl/griekenland/4076806/griekse-regering-stuurt-nee-stem-bij-referendum.htmlToo lazy to translate all I'll try some English language sites for similar news.
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Post by rubl on Jun 27, 2015 23:15:36 GMT 7
Reuters has updates of a similar nature "Germany all but buried negotiations on Saturday to keep Greece from default, saying a surprise decision by Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras to call a referendum had left nothing to discuss but how to cope with failure." uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/27/uk-eurozone-greece-idUKKBN0P40FR20150627"A senior German lawmaker in Chancellor Angela Merkel's conservative party told Reuters on Saturday that Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras has "pulled the plug" himself with his call for a referendum and thus made it impossible for parliament to vote on any further Greek aid by the end of June." uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/27/uk-eurozone-greece-germany-krichbaum-idUKKBN0P70E720150627""Citizens should not be scared - there is no blackmail," Panos Kammenos (Minister of Defence and coalition minority partner's leader)told local television. "The banks won't shut, the ATMs will (have cash). All this is exaggeration."" uk.reuters.com/article/2015/06/27/uk-eurozone-greece-calm-idUKKBN0P708E20150627I guess the Greek PM summed it up nicely, he is still trying to wrangle "After months of wrangling with the lenders, Tsipras announced that he would put the terms of the creditors' "humiliating" offer to a popular vote on July 5."
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Post by rgs2001uk on Jun 27, 2015 23:56:47 GMT 7
But do the Greeks understand the cost of taking their begging bowl to the Russians? More to the point, do NATO and the EU and IMF, understand the full costs of the tax dodgers taking their begging bowl to Putin? No wonder they are willing to throw good money after bad, peace dividend, what peace dividend? Cant wait until the Russian fleet sails into some greko harbour, tells them they have sold Cyprus to Jihnny Turk to pay their bills. Never mind our quasi commie friends can have some Humble Pie served up big style along with a dose of austerity Commie style. Lie back and think of the Mother Land Costas.
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 28, 2015 2:05:23 GMT 7
Greece debt crisis: Eurozone refuses bailout extensionEurozone finance ministers have rejected a Greek request to extend a bailout programme beyond 30 June.A Eurogroup statement said Greece had broken off negotiations over a new bailout deal "unilaterally". www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33300543
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Post by Mosha on Jun 28, 2015 8:02:24 GMT 7
Breaking news: The eurozone financial crisis will soon be over as Greece has received an unconditional €100bn bailout offer.
All they have to do is email their account details to the anonymous daughter of wealthy, but deceased African general...
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Post by The Arrow on Jun 28, 2015 8:30:12 GMT 7
So by Monday, perhaps Tuesday Greece will be out. Who's next? Portugal, Italy, Spain . . . UK to vote out at referendum?
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Post by me on Jun 28, 2015 8:39:24 GMT 7
They should let the Turks in now. THat would really p**s the Greeks off.
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Post by siampolee on Jun 28, 2015 8:43:06 GMT 7
Certainly the departure of those third world peasant economy states from the E.U. would not be a bad move. They contribute nothing, purchasing power minimal but their begging bowls are large which of course the more financially able states, (READ TAXPAYERS) have to keep on filling up.
The U.K. out?
Somehow I don't think so but a much needed revamping of the system and less interference from the governing body into other sovereign states laws etc may well be on the cards to the benefit of all who remain in the E.U.
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Post by Mosha on Jun 28, 2015 9:41:31 GMT 7
Yesterday on BBC they mentioned the FIPS countries as the next in line..
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