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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 10:05:23 GMT 7
^^^ What would be far more effective (and cheaper to the tax payer) is to close all the mosques ... permanently. and the temples and demolish Christchurch cathedral and and ... ... |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 16, 2019 11:48:27 GMT 7
^^^ What would be far more effective (and cheaper to the tax payer) is to close all the mosques ... permanently. Despite appearing to be an intelligent person the majority of the time you do occasionally spout some utter crap and nonsense, I'll put it down to sun spots and brain farts. |
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Post by siampolee on Mar 16, 2019 11:51:18 GMT 7
Enormous outpourings of grief for the victims in the matter but cast your mind back a while, was there the same reaction concerning the innocents of the attacks made by rabid Muslims. Indeed it seems to me that the Stockholm Syndrome is working well.
Whether one wishes to admit it or not these sorts of events are going to increase ve the years, people are becoming worried about what is happening and is already causing ripples of unrest, soon those ripples will lead to a great flood-tide of social unrest involving all sides with a dog or a camel in the fight.
Look back at Enoch Powell's speech and the message was there. Yes, he quoted race, colour etc being as Islam at that time was a much less aggressive cult.
I will not defend the accused, however, his motives were shaped by the evolving situations and actions already taken by others and let's be realistic in the analysing of the killings from each side. The victims now and those recent victims, innocents as they may be or to all intents and purposes are and were innocents, those acts were and are just as arbitrary as those in this attack.
All the libtard wailings and gnashing of teeth concerning those recently killed or perhaps should we say murdered or label them as collateral non-combatant casualties will not matter one iota to any of the involved parties. The violence of one side is responsible for the spawning of the same monster(s) on the other side(s)
Until such time as all sides can agree to live or exist together, be they an ethnic or religious based issue or both issues together nothing will change, the record of history proves beyond a doubt the veracity of that situation.
The human species is indeed a peculiar creature, much the same as the rest of life forms upon this earth, peace and harmony are but fantasies created by subconscious minds in the human species. Alpha males or females always fought their way to the top as did their replacements. Much the same as applies to ethnic and religious ideals, do it my way or no way.
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Post by siampolee on Mar 16, 2019 12:46:12 GMT 7
Just to add some balance to the matter, this incident last month somehow didn't seem to warrant inclusion within the MSM network. Perhaps questions need to be or should be asked why is it that some lives are less valuable than others, would it be based upon their religious beliefs or ethnic content? blackchristiannews.com/2019/02/40-christians-killed-in-attacks-in-nigeria. |
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Post by AyG on Mar 16, 2019 12:54:05 GMT 7
^^^ What would be far more effective (and cheaper to the tax payer) is to close all the mosques ... permanently. Despite appearing to be an intelligent person the majority of the time you do occasionally spout some utter crap and nonsense, I'll put it down to sun spots and brain farts. Pray tell, why is this "utter crap and nonsense"? What does western civilisation owe to people whose code of conduct is based upon the life of a 7th century Arab warlord, a paedophile, mass murdering, dog-hating rapist who heard voices in his head which he claimed were those of a pagan moon god? There would only be gain from closing all mosques and banning Islam. The individuals would be freed from their vile, oppressive religion. And the host countries would be freed from individuals driven by their Islamic beliefs to murder non-believers wholesale. This is a far better way forward than leaving a situation in which right wing individuals feel it's OK to attack (in disparate ways) and murder followers of "The Religion of Peace". The threat of Islam and its adherents to the civilised world needs radical actions to deal with it. Sticking plaster measures won't do. |
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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 12:54:47 GMT 7
Ah well, nice balance.
What's next? 'We white Anglo-Saxon's have the right to defend ourselves against those we don't like"? Massacre the others first?
Anyway, seems the perpetrator in Christchurch was a supporter of the Norwegian Breitvik who also wanted to set an example and did with
"On July 22, 2011, Breivik killed eight people with a car bomb in Oslo and then opened fire at an island summer camp run by the left-wing Labor Party's youth wing, killing 69. He is serving a 21-year prison sentence."
Of course, his victims were left-wing, so some may see that as a righteous killing.
This tit-for-tat business doesn't help anyone. The fear mongering by mostly right-wing at the moment doesn't help. Trump's wall because of 'hordes of terrorist' is just as much BS.
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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 12:55:49 GMT 7
Despite appearing to be an intelligent person the majority of the time you do occasionally spout some utter crap and nonsense, I'll put it down to sun spots and brain farts. Pray tell, why is this "utter crap and nonsense"? What does western civilisation owe to people whose code of conduct is based upon the life of a 7th century Arab warlord, a paedophile, mass murdering, dog-hating rapist who heard voices in his head which he claimed were those of a pagan moon god? There would only be gain from closing all mosques and banning Islam. The individuals would be freed from their vile, oppressive religion. And the host countries would be freed from individuals driven by their Islamic beliefs to murder non-believers wholesale. This is a far better way forward than leaving a situation in which right wing individuals feel it's OK to attack (in disparate ways) and murder followers of "The Religion of Peace". The threat of Islam and its adherents to the civilised world needs radical actions to deal with it. Sticking plaster measures won't do. So, you're in favour of the Christchurch attack? |
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Post by rott on Mar 16, 2019 13:12:03 GMT 7
Just to add some balance to the matter, this incident last month somehow didn't seem to warrant inclusion within the MSM network. Perhaps questions need to be or should be asked why is it that some lives are less valuable than others, would it be based upon their religious beliefs or ethnic content? blackchristiannews.com/2019/02/40-christians-killed-in-attacks-in-nigeria. According to that muslims have murdered in the region of 60,000 Christians in Nigeria since 2001. Makes the more recent murder of 20 or 30 Christians by them in the Philippines very small beer and was obviously not worth reporting. |
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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 13:18:52 GMT 7
Well, if we're into statistics, may I ask how many people were killed in the USA since 2001? How may by Muslims, how many by Christians? May I also have the same figures for Britain and the Netherlands please? Oh, and if possible also those from the Faeroer Islands, Tokelau Islands, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
After all, such data may be just as relevant.
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Post by AyG on Mar 16, 2019 14:15:05 GMT 7
Pray tell, why is this "utter crap and nonsense"? What does western civilisation owe to people whose code of conduct is based upon the life of a 7th century Arab warlord, a paedophile, mass murdering, dog-hating rapist who heard voices in his head which he claimed were those of a pagan moon god? There would only be gain from closing all mosques and banning Islam. The individuals would be freed from their vile, oppressive religion. And the host countries would be freed from individuals driven by their Islamic beliefs to murder non-believers wholesale. This is a far better way forward than leaving a situation in which right wing individuals feel it's OK to attack (in disparate ways) and murder followers of "The Religion of Peace". The threat of Islam and its adherents to the civilised world needs radical actions to deal with it. Sticking plaster measures won't do. So, you're in favour of the Christchurch attack? Absolutely not. I abhor all violence. However, it's obvious if there weren't Moslems in the civilised world committing frequent atrocities against the native peoples, then the Christchurch attack would not have happened. It's long past time for politicians to stand up and stop Moslem immigration, to reverse its flow, and to ban Islam under anti-hate legislation. They just need to accept that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with modern society in the west and needs to be rooted out. The Koran says: "kill the idolaters [i.e. non-Moslems] wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush." Koran 9:5 "slay them wherever ye find them" Koran 2:191 etc., etc., ad nauseam |
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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 14:18:53 GMT 7
'would not have happened' ?
You start to sound like a terrorist who says "if I cut off his head it's your fault, you will be the one to blame".
If we didn't have muslims to blame for our problems we'd just use Jews, or Blacks, or not-my-sect-of-Christians. Brussels is also always a good one to blame your problems on.
Old Testament, Deuteronomy 20:1
When you go to war against your enemies and see horses and chariots and an army greater than yours, do not be afraid of them, because the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt, will be with you.
Old Testament, Exodus 23:22
If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
New Testament, Matthew 5:43
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
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Post by oldie on Mar 16, 2019 14:22:39 GMT 7
The bloke is a dickhead. Not a terrorist, a dickhead.
He shot kids, set booby traps for the authorities, and fired indiscriminately down the street.
No-one will be stupid enough to align themselves with him.
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Post by rubl on Mar 16, 2019 14:27:27 GMT 7
The bloke is a dickhead. Not a terrorist, a dickhead. He shot kids, set booby traps for the authorities, and fired indiscriminately down the street. No-one will be stupid enough to align themselves with him. If only that were true, but even a simple forum like the BM seems to indicate differently  |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 16, 2019 14:53:19 GMT 7
Despite appearing to be an intelligent person the majority of the time you do occasionally spout some utter crap and nonsense, I'll put it down to sun spots and brain farts. Pray tell, why is this "utter crap and nonsense"? What does western civilisation owe to people whose code of conduct is based upon the life of a 7th century Arab warlord, a paedophile, mass murdering, dog-hating rapist who heard voices in his head which he claimed were those of a pagan moon god? There would only be gain from closing all mosques and banning Islam. The individuals would be freed from their vile, oppressive religion. And the host countries would be freed from individuals driven by their Islamic beliefs to murder non-believers wholesale. This is a far better way forward than leaving a situation in which right wing individuals feel it's OK to attack (in disparate ways) and murder followers of "The Religion of Peace". The threat of Islam and its adherents to the civilised world needs radical actions to deal with it. Sticking plaster measures won't do. Firstly, I object to your use of the word Moslems, the discussion is about Muslims, not just extremists. Secondly, there is no verifiable statistic to confirm the percentage of the Muslim religion or any other religion for that matter that is extremist rather than simply practicing, for no other reason than it appeals to me and is a nice round number I'm going to suggest that number is 2%. According to you, it would be a good thing to deny 98% of the say 1.8 billion Muslims who are peaceful practitioners of their religion, access to it, just because 20% are loonies, that's crap and nonsense. What civilization owes to the 98% of those 1.8 billion is the freedom and right to practice the religion of their choosing, without persecution. Somewhere in this universe somebody is sat currently wondering why Christianity hasn't been banned, a religion based on a man who supposedly died and then came back to life again and whose followers celebrate his existence by pretending to eat his body and drink his blood, how paganistic is that for gods sake (no play on words intended). Then we have the Catholic religion, the one where little boys are sacrificed to practicing priests around the world, in the vestry, at bell ringing, in the back room.....bugger me, that's a great religion we should let thrive and prosper. Keep going down the list and they're all quirky in some way, if you said to ban them all then I could start to agree but to suggest banning a single one on the basis of a few of them being extremist just doesn't make sense at all. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 16, 2019 15:19:43 GMT 7
The bloke is a dickhead. Not a terrorist, a dickhead. He shot kids, set booby traps for the authorities, and fired indiscriminately down the street. No-one will be stupid enough to align themselves with him. If only that were true, but even a simple forum like the BM seems to indicate differently This useless misfit is from Grafton. I personally fitted out the Grafton police station air conditioning system in the nineties. It was a big job. The attack was in Christchurch. My own backyard. The train trip from Greymouth to Christchurch is to put on your bucket list. This Brenton  suffers from small penis syndrome and is about to get a good thrashing. |
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