Don't change the subject, you described the mass as a basic part of Christianity. I corrected you and you are trying to ignore the fact that you are completely wrong because you do not know what you are talking about.

I repeat from Article VI "The mass is a blasphemous fable and a dangerous deceit."

But carry on with platitudes like "every religion has......." yawn, and nobody will notice that you do not know the difference between prod and pape.

Woof, woof woof!

When soi dogs bark at me, it's fun to bark back!

Some more shite to consider: I wonder how many of the average people in the average UK street understand the differences and nuances between the various brands of Christian religions, the differences say between the Church of England, Methodist, Baptist, Roman Catholic, Presbyterian, Apostolic, Seventh Day Adventists brands and so on? I'm guessing not many at all. Take me for example, raised as Church of England, went to church every Sunday and was even a choir boy FFS, enforced Religous Education classes in school for several years and periodically throughout life attended various church services, baptised C of E and even married in a church! Yet despite those things I know absolutely nothing about the subject, allegedly, I didn't even know that Sunday morning communion, the one that has been practised at EVERY Sunday morning service I've ever been to in EVERY UK C of E service over the past 70 years, was not quite right....imagine that, who'd have though that the C of E is not a Christian based religon! I suspect it's a bit like the Berkley affair where the purists said it was impossible for a three-wheeler to be a sports car, ergo, it's a motorbike - there's no talking with such people about their chosen specialist subject, not unless you understand completely every manufacturing and design detail of the machine including the composition ratio of all the materials, even Magnus Magnussen used to get frustrated.

I can only assume that the average person knows very little about the detail or even much of the high-level religious principles today, but I wonder how much detail a person needs in order to participate in a religion and to gain solace from it....perhaps in going forward there should be tests before church services and if you fail you can't attend!!!

Yet despite those things, many of us seem to know lots about the Muslim religion which incidentally was the subject of this part of the thread, lest we should be thought of as going off topic! I suspect the media plays a large role in educating us about the Koran and all the terrible things it says yet oddly, they don't do the same thing about the Bible et al, I wonder why that is, a rhetorical question of course. Regardless, the idea that anyone would want to erase a religion that serves 1.8 billion people or more, just because of its extremist element is bizarre thinking at best, but erasing all religions and going with the scientific answer, that has mileage in my book plus you don't have to sit an exam in order to sign up to it!

Finally, just to be crystal: I'm not supporting the Muslim religion or any other religion whatsoever, I am however 100% behind individuals being able to choose whichever religion they want to adopt and follow and for them all to peacefully coexist because I think that satisfies the needs of 98% of the population.

And it's a lovely smoggy good morning to all from chiangmai, in Chiang Mai.

Sorry where are you getting this bit from that the C of E is not a Christian based religion?

Because the wafer is not described as "literally, truly and substantially the body of Christ", as per the RC Council of Trent?

May be a closer look at the All Noir mosque is needed.

cloverchronicle.com/2019/03/16/two-men-killed-in-2013-drone-strike-were-allegedly-radicalized-at-christchurch-mosque/

I've been watching a series on Netflix about the Vietnam war and it's excellent. Despite having read much about the subject and the war being a focus of my life for many years I had never managed to step back far enough to put things into perspective and this Netflix series managed to do that in just the first episode. I had understood only too well all the components of the war and other global events that were taking place at the time but I hadn't properly joined up the dots. Watching the series the coin dropped when the narrator said something along the lines of, that America was plagued with the notion that communism was expanding and that Vietnam was a part of that picture, the reality was at the time that the regime changes in SE Asia countries were nothing more than a pivot point in time and not part of a bigger concerted plot to implement communism around the globe.

I wonder if there is not some form of parallel to be drawn between what happened in Vietnam and what many people see as the spread of the Muslim religion and is US foreign policy not largely to blame for many of the rifts that have developed between the Muslim and Christian populations? And again, the media plays a role in it all, I particularly like this phrase:

"But Vali Nasr, California-based author of Islamic Leviathan: Islam and the Making of State Power, says that while "there is a lot happening in the Muslim world, the West — and let's admit it, the media — is obsessed with Muslim fundamentalism — it makes good copy." abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=79706&page=1