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Post by rubl on Mar 23, 2019 9:51:28 GMT 7
As we all know Pres. Trump said there's no collusion, he's not afraid of the Mueller report, He's have it published, etc., etc. Meanwhile he seems a bit paranoid for an innocent man. Also he seems to repeat his statements from a week or so ago where he put a very thinly vealed threat to those who are not for him. "Trump takes political offensive against Mueller report: 'People will not stand for it' Trump takes political offensive against Mueller report: 'People will not stand for it' originally appeared on abcnews.go.com While President Donald Trump's lawyers are preparing a legal defense to what might be in special counsel Robert Mueller's report, Trump himself is already casting the fight in stark political terms, arguing unelected bureaucrats were trying to "make a determination on my presidency." He's now repeatedly gone on the offensive against Mueller and the man who appointed him -- Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein -- trying to discredit their legitimacy by arguing they "never got a vote" and have no business sitting in judgment of him since millions of voters elected him president. In an interview that aired on Fox Business on Friday, Trump kept up the politically-themed attack. "Well, it's always interesting to me because a deputy that didn't get any votes appoints a man that didn't get any votes, he's going to write a report on me. I had one of the greatest election victories in history -- wouldn't you say that's true?" Trump told Fox anchor Maria Bartiromo." www.yahoo.com/gma/trump-takes-political-offensive-against-mueller-report-people-193311654.htmlPS as for 'never got a vote', Trump seems to forget that not all jobs are handed out by popular vote. Some people are just hired to do a job, legally so.
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Post by AyG on Mar 23, 2019 12:44:38 GMT 7
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Post by 88 on Mar 25, 2019 17:48:35 GMT 7
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 25, 2019 18:32:16 GMT 7
I'm not a fan of the guy. In the end though looks like he's come out a winner. Unlike the US press. The way much of the US media handled all this and were desperate to dig dirt on trump doesn't reflect well on them. So clearly biased even if he is an unpleasant guy. But the press seem deflated now the truth has come out, and it's move along nothing to see here. All that time they spent hanging on every single word and nuance to try and make things look negative. Hopefully once he's finished milking the verdict we can get on with real news . Wouldn't blame him though if he hits out and starts investigations of his own. Like I say. Not a fan of the guy. But trying to make it look like he colluded with the Russians??? Of course the Democrats will want the full report to see if any more dirt is flung in any other directions. They've had a good year or two dragging this on.
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Post by rubl on Mar 25, 2019 18:44:03 GMT 7
Even with Trump seemingly exonerated on the 'collusion' aspect, there's still the doubt on obstruction of justice
""While this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Mr Mueller noted, according to the attorney general."
Fact remains that a dozen of Trumps former election campaign officials and other nice people are in court or already convicted of lying, corruption and so forth. A large number is still being investigated and dearDonalTrump himself hides behind the presidency and twitter.
If only the chap could keep his big, real big mouth shut for a moment and his fingers from is twitter account. His behaviour is strange for a totally innocent man.
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Post by rubl on Mar 25, 2019 21:06:04 GMT 7
I may be wondering too much, but a question if I may.
When Mueller and his 7, or 9, or 12 or 19 Angry Democrats were on a witch hunt based on 'fake news', using 'fake reports' and more fake stuff how can their 'obviously' fake concluding report have any value?
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 26, 2019 0:54:42 GMT 7
Even with Trump seemingly exonerated on the 'collusion' aspect, there's still the doubt on obstruction of justice Can't see much coming of that. Seems fair enough really for him to push back on all the sh1t that's been thrown - fake and otherwise
Simple arse covering. Hasn't found enough to conclude he's a criminal but leaves it open in case he's missed anything Feel free to replace Trump's name with a wide variety of other "upstanding" characters of the US system. Hillary wasn't exactly whiter than white either. Top down, bottom up throughout the OP and Democrats alike
Amen. His behaviour is strange full stop. It was before he was accused of anything, during and after. His behaviour would also be strange for someone guilty
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Post by Fletchsmile on Mar 26, 2019 1:05:21 GMT 7
I may be wondering too much, but a question if I may. When Mueller and his 7, or 9, or 12 or 19 Angry Democrats were on a witch hunt based on 'fake news', using 'fake reports' and more fake stuff how can their 'obviously' fake concluding report have any value?
The way I look at it. Mueller doesn't like Trump, not as if he was biased in Trump's favour. He spent a year or so investigating collusion and couldn't come up with any real evidence. As he couldn't prove anything was real it implies a lot of it was fake.
Similar to proof by contradiction in mathematics. Although that's probably a bit too intelligent and scientific for the whole circus on all sides
I haven't followed most of it though. Just glad it's all largely over with.
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Post by AyG on Mar 26, 2019 5:51:25 GMT 7
The way I look at it. Mueller doesn't like Trump, not as if he was biased in Trump's favour. He spent a year or so investigating collusion and couldn't come up with any real evidence. As he couldn't prove anything was real it implies a lot of it was fake. We don't know that. All we know is from the summary provided by Attorney General Barr - a man who got his position thanks to Trump, and is hardly impartial. We need to see the full report before drawing conclusions. However, we read (on the second page) "Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks". Isn't that pretty serious? The White House should be doing something about it, but isn't. Why not? For that matter, given Russian interference in the election the government should also be doing something to stop it happening again, but isn't. Why not? There are more questions than answers until the full report is released. However, the Republicans are clearly afraid of the truth getting out. Latest headline: "McConnell blocks motion to make Mueller report public".
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Post by 88 on Mar 26, 2019 5:59:21 GMT 7
However, we read (on the second page) "Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks". Isn't that pretty serious? The White House should be doing something about it, but isn't. Why not? For that matter, given Russian interference in the election the government should also be doing something to stop it happening again, but isn't. Why not? Was this not all to do with Clinton and her A team of Huma Abedin (with close familial ties to extreme islam and terrorists) and her sex crime husband Anthony Wiener all using hotmail and gmail instead of secure proper accounts? I though the hack stemmed from this blatant disregard for procedure. Russian friends tell me there would be no reason for Putin to prefer Trump over Clinton as POTUS. THey say he is too unpredictable. I think this whole sorry saga comes from MSM saying there was a 99% chance that Hillary will win the election and that if anyone thinks differently they must be retarded, and then...... Just basic human nature to make excuses for p**s poor performance. And then they kept doubling down as to admit the truth that Trump won fair and square would be too humiliating.
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Post by rubl on Mar 26, 2019 10:52:34 GMT 7
Well, nice to see the Trumpish fake names are popping up as if to suggest that that exonerates Trump completely. Hillary 'lock her up' Clinton being dug up again. All because Mueller wrote a report?
Seems the conspiracy theory lovers are having a field day.
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Post by 88 on Mar 26, 2019 11:25:12 GMT 7
Well, nice to see the Trumpish fake names are popping up as if to suggest that that exonerates Trump completely. Hillary 'lock her up' Clinton being dug up again. All because Mueller wrote a report? Seems the conspiracy theory lovers are having a field day. thanks for 2020. I knew you tards couldn't learn lessons from fielding a horrible candidate. Contrition seems a foreign concept to you lot - luckily!
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Post by rubl on Mar 26, 2019 13:47:57 GMT 7
Well, nice to see the Trumpish fake names are popping up as if to suggest that that exonerates Trump completely. Hillary 'lock her up' Clinton being dug up again. All because Mueller wrote a report? Seems the conspiracy theory lovers are having a field day. thanks for 2020. I knew you tards couldn't learn lessons from fielding a horrible candidate. Contrition seems a foreign concept to you lot - luckily! Thanks for confirming you are a bloody fool who knows nothing about truthfulness and only plays with the 'tards' label and the suggestive 'you lot'. Trump keeps on saying America is great again thanks to him but he wants to forget that such great, real great responsibility comes with accountability as well. One may hold the number one man to higher standards even than more 'common' men. A president who keeps on agitating for his own glory. A president who by ignoring his own NSA can be called implicitly colluding with the enemy. His continued attacks on the free press whenever they write something he doesn't like, or dare to even suggest something 'wrong', such president is not helping America. His attacks on NSA, FBI, DoJ, FED show his obstructing for his own greater glory. Does all this mean Trump can't be re-elected? OF course not. We're talking about America here after all.
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Post by rubl on Mar 27, 2019 12:18:49 GMT 7
What some seem to have forgotten is that whenever some media reported on possible collusion dearDonaldTrump started SHOUTING about fake this and that, rather than the media really STATED "THERE IS COLLUSION". Trump and his sycophants were so vocal and frequent that by now a lot of people simply believe the media wrongly stated. They seldom really stated and even corrected when someone PROVED them wrong. BTW the next chapter in 'fake' and 'real' and 'love your totally exonerated president' is coming up. Networks reminded the need to have 'creditable' guests. Rumour has it was an unfortunate mistake that Sean Hannity also got such a letter. "Trump sends memo to TV producers pressuring them not to book people who said there was evidence of Russia collusion Donald Trump’s team is sending letters to TV producers demanding they reconsider booking guests they perceive lied about Robert Mueller’s investigation. The memo was sent on Monday to a number of networks, including MSNBC, CNN and NBC, by Mr Trump’s 2020 campaign communications chief Tim Murtaugh, under the headline, “Credibility of Certain Guests”, according to a copy obtained by Axios." news.yahoo.com/trump-sends-memo-tv-producers-102550210.html?hl=1&noRedirect=1
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Post by rubl on Mar 28, 2019 21:23:13 GMT 7
Typically Trump, his still at it. Trying to convince everyone that the Democrats were on a witch hunt while Russia favored Hillary. All facts should that to be false but Trump keeps saying it till everyone believes it. How many years did he ask for Obama's birth certificate? How many still believe all lies? What is really amazing is the report which 'totally' exonerates is written by people who Trump tells us not to trust. Why should we then believe the report? A report by the way, Trump's GOPpies don't want published. It would seem too much publicity is not necessary, you can believe me, I'm GOP. "Trump: Russia would’ve preferred Hillary Clinton as president In TV interview, US president attacks Robert Mueller’s investigative team." www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-russia-preferred-hillary-clinton-president/
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