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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 3, 2020 20:39:30 GMT 7
Been there done that, twats want you to be on standby but wont pay a standby allowance. Quarterly review he asks. "Why do you always work Christmas when it's when it's your shift?" "Because it's better than owing you 12 hours" "What if there's nothing to do?" Now the smart answer would be there's allusion summat to do, but my mouth let me down. "Then that's a bonus." 🤣🤣🤣 , rgs get yer effin ass into my office, why are those lads sat round doing nothing, answer, the bean counters wont pay overtime, we have two hours left and that job will take 3 hours, so its left for the day shift. Are you telling me we lose 5 hours production because of 1 hours overtime, yes, this is madness, i know, take it up with the office wallahs.
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Post by oldie on Oct 4, 2020 7:26:08 GMT 7
We've had 2 "non production" Saturdays in a row. I was rostered night shift both times. Last Saturday I took a days annual leave. That pleased the bosses but the boys on the floor were worried I'd set a precedent. So last night I went in and watched movies for 4 hours then went home 6 hours early and got paid penalty rates like the other lads. Suits me.
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Post by smokie36 on Oct 4, 2020 14:27:01 GMT 7
We've had 2 "non production" Saturdays in a row. I was rostered night shift both times. Last Saturday I took a days annual leave. That pleased the bosses but the boys on the floor were worried I'd set a precedent. So last night I went in and watched movies for 4 hours then went home 6 hours early and got paid penalty rates like the other lads. Suits me. I get paid a tenner an hour more than the other lads. Such is life at the top....beats ignorance being bliss I can tell you.
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Post by oldie on Oct 4, 2020 15:10:08 GMT 7
We've had 2 "non production" Saturdays in a row. I was rostered night shift both times. Last Saturday I took a days annual leave. That pleased the bosses but the boys on the floor were worried I'd set a precedent. So last night I went in and watched movies for 4 hours then went home 6 hours early and got paid penalty rates like the other lads. Suits me. I get paid a tenner an hour more than the other lads. Such is life at the top....beats ignorance being bliss I can tell you. I'm at the bottom by choice, watching those less educated fools above me getting screwed. And I'm on the money. Those idiots are under the bosses desk on their knees for $30k less than me.
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Post by oldie on Oct 4, 2020 15:20:04 GMT 7
The new recruits turn up and demand our attention. We're like "we'll still be here long after your gone" 6 months later we're forming a guard of honour and clapping as they're marched of site in tears in their socks and underpants. Old school ...
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Post by smokie36 on Oct 4, 2020 16:10:49 GMT 7
The new recruits turn up and demand our attention. We're like "we'll still be here long after your gone" 6 months later we're forming a guard of honour and clapping as they're marched of site in tears in their socks and underpants. Old school ... I tried to explain to the new lads they will go nuts after a few months on this desolate rock if they don't take regular breaks. Three have already broken down and been replaced...the new crop still to book any leave lest they lose a weeks wages. Five weeks till my 12 day holiday of swimming and beer....rock on lads.
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Post by Mosha on Oct 5, 2020 7:40:05 GMT 7
Same boss another review.. "Why aren't you applying for promotion?" "For what position?" "Engineering Assistant." "I can't afford the cut in income." 5 × 7.5 hour days. "It's more money and prestige." "It's less money and you can't spend prestige." I tell him to go ask his Engineering Assistant, and if he's not on £22,000 pa don't come bothering me. Our shift pattern only required we came to work 120 days a year. He was a drip of the highest order, and his replacement was just as bad. I only left in 2003 because they changed the shift pattern. No 12 hour shifts less weekends, that equated to less shift disturbance money. It coincided with them asking for redundancies, I was stood outside my bosses office waiting for him to turn up. A day later I knew what the offer was. I signed up. They ended up with too many in my role wanting out, but I was 1st in line.
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Post by chiangmai on Oct 5, 2020 7:50:56 GMT 7
I can relate to that, it's not just the amount of money earned it's the number of days worked. I used to work a shift schedule that allowed me to get three weeks vacation by using just seven holiday days, it meant I didn't have to be at work for fifteen weeks of the year if I timed it right. Fortunately I earned decent money also which meant I could actually use the time off, thinking about it I'm not sure why I gave up such a sweet deal......Oh wait, yes I do, it was because of a girl...stupid man!
And then there was the old...."do you want to work Xmas and New Year" routine. Hmmm, let me think. Earn double time plus get time off in lieu for mostly sitting around reading newspapers' and going down the pub, or, earning nothing and sitting in a bedsit in Finchley...a difficult choice, not.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 5, 2020 19:37:23 GMT 7
The new recruits turn up and demand our attention. We're like "we'll still be here long after your gone" 6 months later we're forming a guard of honour and clapping as they're marched of site in tears in their socks and underpants. Old school ... Lucky you in the lucky country, that shit is banned in the uk nowadays, being old skool myself, I admit to having to google what hazing meant, I thought to myself, shit we were doing that shit 30 years ago. <theduck> grabbed, a length of 4x2 stuck under his left overall cuff, all the way across to the back of his shoulders, and out at the right cuff, get the forklift out, forks raised to about 20 feet in the air, twat was left hanging like jesus in the middle of the hangar. <theduck> grabbed, the chair was brought out, ovies down, shreddies down, swarfega rubbed all over his private parts, sat in the chair, his hands were tie wrapped to either side of the chair.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 5, 2020 19:40:41 GMT 7
I can relate to that, it's not just the amount of money earned it's the number of days worked. I used to work a shift schedule that allowed me to get three weeks vacation by using just seven holiday days, it meant I didn't have to be at work for fifteen weeks of the year if I timed it right. Fortunately I earned decent money also which meant I could actually use the time off, thinking about it I'm not sure why I gave up such a sweet deal......Oh wait, yes I do, it was because of a girl...stupid man! And then there was the old...."do you want to work Xmas and New Year" routine. Hmmm, let me think. Earn double time plus get time off in lieu for mostly sitting around reading newspapers' and going down the pub, or, earning nothing and sitting in a bedsit in Finchley...a difficult choice, not. Good man, sounds to me like you were on the old, 4 day shifts, 4 night shifts, 8 days of roster. I know guys that turned down promotion from shifts like that, it would have meant a pay cut, on their 8 days off they were working cash in hand as taxi drivers etc etc.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 5, 2020 19:50:07 GMT 7
Same boss another review.. "Why aren't you applying for promotion?" "For what position?" "Engineering Assistant." "I can't afford the cut in income." 5 × 7.5 hour days. "It's more money and prestige." "It's less money and you can't spend prestige." I tell him to go ask his Engineering Assistant, and if he's not on £22,000 pa don't come bothering me. Our shift pattern only required we came to work 120 days a year. He was a drip of the highest order, and his replacement was just as bad. I only left in 2003 because they changed the shift pattern. No 12 hour shifts less weekends, that equated to less shift disturbance money. It coincided with them asking for redundancies, I was stood outside my bosses office waiting for him to turn up. A day later I knew what the offer was. I signed up. They ended up with too many in my role wanting out, but I was 1st in line. , prestige dont pay the bills, Redunancies, , been throught that twice, the problem is the dummies are too thick to take up the offer, , all the smart guys jump straight in, pay me off, and all the idiots,deadbeats,drifters and deadwood is left behind. Nice one, eff em. Well played Mosha. I did the same. The irony of it all was, I had some agency phoning me and offering me the same job I was in the middle of working my notice from, similair to you I asked about salary, I got the usual bs, depends on experience blah blah blah. Ok said I, whats the bottom salary, usual HR bs. What made me effin laugh, my tosser off a boss, was all, dont worry we have a replacement lined up for you, the agency is recruiting him right now. I told the agency, if that means working for that <theduck> SS, you can stick your job up your ass. Never heard from them again.
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Post by chiangmai on Oct 5, 2020 20:05:07 GMT 7
It was something like.....7 night shifts, seven days off, seven evening shifts five days off, seven day shifts six days off...or similar. And only 8 hour shifts too, pretty much bankers hours. But there again it was a union shop and we were in the same union, IPC, as our Fleet Street brothers who were prone to walk out at the slightest excuse. The company stocked a kitchen for use by evening and night shifts and one chap insisted on unsalted butter on religious grounds. One night he showed up for work and there was only salted butter in the fridge so the union mother was duly consulted. Instructions soon came down the line to shut everything down and walk out, we wasted our time playing five aside in the middle of Clerkenwell Road for an hour.
The problem was finally resolved when the boss sourced some unsalted butter from somewhere at 1am and drove down from Edgware to Clerkenwell and put it in the fridge....bless his cotton socks.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 5, 2020 20:09:51 GMT 7
^ , i remember those days, guys working on the channel tunnel, 100 quid a day cash in hand no questions asked.
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Post by Mosha on Oct 5, 2020 20:42:43 GMT 7
31st January 2003, last shift. Flight already booked, and I was here for 6 months. Basically making sure we weren't going to be arguing a lot etc. Went back in July sold the house, and only went back for 6 weeks in 2006. We got a lot of guys doing agency work, leave on Friday, back on site Monday.
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Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 5, 2020 21:19:04 GMT 7
31st January 2003, last shift. Flight already booked, and I was here for 6 months. Basically making sure we weren't going to be arguing a lot etc. Went back in July sold the house, and only went back for 6 weeks in 2006. We got a lot of guys doing agency work, leave on Friday, back on site Monday.Brilliant, thought it was only us, seen guys leaving work on a friday and tossing their blue overalls in the bin, back on site on a Monday morning with different coloured overalls, previous boss trying to tell them what to do, , shop stewards involved, all for something trivial as toilet paper, or hyd rigs running in the hangar, health and safety involved, . great days. We were george floyd before anyone had ever heard of him, I cant breathe, ffs.
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