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Oct 7, 2015 22:29:25 GMT 7
Post by rgs2001uk on Oct 7, 2015 22:29:25 GMT 7
Sir Walter Scott another literary giant.
John Buchan, The 39 Steps.
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Oct 8, 2015 9:38:20 GMT 7
Post by me on Oct 8, 2015 9:38:20 GMT 7
^^ I have no bone to pick with you as far as writing for yourself is concerned. I applaud it. Our contention is that you stated "no writer ever write for money." I think you can see the absurdity in that statement now. As for writing novels? it's not easy, it's a skill that is beyond me at the moment - that's why I get help from professionals. That's why I pay for content editing, that's why I pay for editing, that's why I pay for proof reading, and it's also why I ask people to give me feedback before release. Am I a great writer? no - and I'll never pretend to be. I'm an enthusiastic amatuer that has lucked out by earning decent money from my hobby. Good for me. What's also good for me is that I know I don't need to conform to the views of the deluded. I was careless, no artist would write for money.
Dickens did, but he had an agenda , what that was you can decide!!!!!
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Oct 8, 2015 9:41:49 GMT 7
Post by me on Oct 8, 2015 9:41:49 GMT 7
^^ I have no bone to pick with you as far as writing for yourself is concerned. I applaud it. Our contention is that you stated "no writer ever write for money." I think you can see the absurdity in that statement now. As for writing novels? it's not easy, it's a skill that is beyond me at the moment - that's why I get help from professionals. That's why I pay for content editing, that's why I pay for editing, that's why I pay for proof reading, and it's also why I ask people to give me feedback before release. Am I a great writer? no - and I'll never pretend to be. I'm an enthusiastic amatuer that has lucked out by earning decent money from my hobby. Good for me. What's also good for me is that I know I don't need to conform to the views of the deluded. I was careless, no artist would write for money.
Dickens did, but he had an agenda , what that was you can decide!!!!!
Of course an Australian would have a name for one who writes for money......Bullshit artist. |
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Oct 8, 2015 11:28:31 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 11:28:31 GMT 7
www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/296/Thank you all for the discussion. Kipling , well I have read little and admit his reputation has prevented me from choosing to read more. At a time when literature was finding new boundaries, his conservative style, though admirable in its craft , added to his extensive travels which should have provided him with a wider perspective (opinion), but he harks back to an Imperialistic past. I agree, that is my opinion and I do not doubt his skills. At the same time, the Bloomsbury group, yes lefty liberals, were opening floodgates in style and critique. To publish or not to publish, that is a question. For money? For ego? To hope you might change the course of history? To share? I have nothing new to share.
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Oct 8, 2015 11:41:37 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 11:41:37 GMT 7
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs_DallowayOne day, stream of consciousness, can be read in a day. No plot, no need to anticipate the conclusion. Written by an elite about the world she observed. No agenda. A poem in essence.
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Oct 8, 2015 11:51:26 GMT 7
Post by siampolee on Oct 8, 2015 11:51:26 GMT 7
I am reliably informed that this volume shown in the image below is mandatory reading for all the mods in the other place.(well those that can read.) If there is an inability to read the mods are informed orally and are then introduced to and subjected to a basic ''learn to read programme'' as the video clip below clearly shows.  |
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Oct 8, 2015 14:25:09 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 14:25:09 GMT 7
I am reliably informed that this volume shown in the image below is mandatory reading for all the mods in the other place.(well those that can read.) If there is an inability to read the mods are informed orally and are then introduced to and subjected to a basic ''learn to read programme'' as the video clip below clearly shows. Video 2. Have fought this battle for years, teaching non native English speakers and their teachers. ABC DEE O GEE |
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Oct 8, 2015 15:00:02 GMT 7
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:00:02 GMT 7
I was careless, no artist would write for money.
Dickens did, but he had an agenda , what that was you can decide!!!!!
Of course an Australian would have a name for one who writes for money......Bullshit artist. I can't believe you posted that drivel. Are you drunk? |
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Oct 8, 2015 15:11:19 GMT 7
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:11:19 GMT 7
So - let me clarify Writers don't write for money - Artists don't want to be paid either? So the multi-billion pound book industry relies upon the charity of writers - And the arts too - I just want to clarify what's being said here so that I can recalibrate my moron meter.  |
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Oct 8, 2015 15:24:41 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 15:24:41 GMT 7
It is a relatively new function of art.
Artists in the past were of wealth and did not rely on commisions.
Of course they accepted patronage in many cases.
Women, outside the "system" certainly did not write for renumeration.
They were educated because of their inherited wealth.
To create for money is a prostitution of self!!!!!
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Oct 8, 2015 15:28:56 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 15:28:56 GMT 7
Literary challenge, tried , but failed.
The cat sat on the mat.
Use only ABC sounds.
Tee hatch (sorry failed already)eee.
Your best offers, no prize!!!!!!
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Oct 8, 2015 15:40:03 GMT 7
Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:40:03 GMT 7
It is a relatively new function of art. Artists in the past were of wealth and did not rely on commisions. Of course they accepted patronage in many cases. Women, outside the "system" certainly did not write for renumeration. They were educated because of their inherited wealth. To create for money is a prostitution of self!!!!! Awww ffs Buhi - stop. Women didn't write for money because of inherited wealth? To write for money is prostitution of self? I'm appalled - I know of hundreds of women that make a full time living from writing. You should be ashamed of yourself for spouting such misogynistic drivel. |
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Oct 8, 2015 17:21:21 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 17:21:21 GMT 7
It is a relatively new function of art. Artists in the past were of wealth and did not rely on commisions. Of course they accepted patronage in many cases. Women, outside the "system" certainly did not write for renumeration. They were educated because of their inherited wealth. To create for money is a prostitution of self!!!!! Awww ffs Buhi - stop. Women didn't write for money because of inherited wealth? To write for money is prostitution of self? I'm appalled - I know of hundreds of women that make a full time living from writing. You should be ashamed of yourself for spouting such misogynistic drivel. Now? Are you citing Jane Austin, Emily Bronte, George Elliot, Mary Shelley, Virginia Woolf? |
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Oct 8, 2015 17:29:31 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 17:29:31 GMT 7
Change direction.
Why?
I don't know.
Back to my comment about prostitution.
We are all prostitutes for money!!!!!
My wife was a prostitute, so were the two before her, but not by social standards!!!!!!!
My best friend is a prostitute, we can relate!!!!!!
Titian, yes that Venetian artist, prostituted hgimself, but the joke was on his patrons.
Mona Lisa, why Leonardo's treasured possesion?
Write on!!!!!!!
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Oct 8, 2015 17:44:22 GMT 7
Post by buhi on Oct 8, 2015 17:44:22 GMT 7
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