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Post by me on Feb 15, 2016 15:31:55 GMT 7
Gesù Cristo Signore CMK, how the hell did you manage to turn this thread around to include your personal grudge with Sir Winston? You do realise that Winston actually did other things besides planing the Gallipoli farce, don't you?  Yes he did do a lot....not all good |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 15:32:33 GMT 7
And not all bad.
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Post by Soutpeel on Feb 15, 2016 15:41:06 GMT 7
oh dear some of my facts have also been put forward by numerous US citizens as well, and some organisations such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 and pilots for 9/11, the vast majority are US citizens, so your suggesting all these people numbering in the thousands are anti-American as well ?....Your Neo-con bias is bright and clear Seems to me you are unable to separate "US government" actions from the American people or America as a country...but your childish rebuttal is par for the course... I will gladly debate you on any aspect of the "engineering" facts, and specifically the metallurgy or lack of in this case... Regards my comments pertaining to shooting down the PA flight, in the events that unfolded that day, I would be surprised if the military didn't shoot down that flight, as if these events had unfolded in any country in the world, its a step that would be expected and in fact sad to say necessary considering what was going on You seem to have a very simplest view of life....very similar to your poster boy "Bush" in his remark "if you not with us, your against us" rhetoric... My point is simple. Governments can't keep secrets and they are not smart enough to plan complex conspiracies. Nothing to do with motives. They may want to be as totalitarian as the British Empire in it's heyday but informaiton is too accessible now and too easy to disseminate. How many pages of confidential information are in Wikileaks? Agreed they are not smart enough to engineer a complex conspiracy, but I have never indicated they did....do I believe Bush et al, plotted, planned and master minded the events of 9/11 ?...no I don't think they did, did they have prior knowledge something "big" was going down and they had the specifics and did nothing about it ?....yes...and could they have "facilitated" some of the events into occurring ?...most certainly. The fact is there where a lot of "strange" events going on both pre and post 9/11 and the way it was handled to suggest the the "official" story may not be wholly true and there is information which has been withheld, which again raises the question...why would crucial evidence, which would answered from a technical/scientific perspective how those towers fell, be shipped off for scrap to China ? |
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Post by cmk on Feb 15, 2016 15:43:47 GMT 7
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Post by Soutpeel on Feb 15, 2016 15:52:46 GMT 7
oh goodie this subject... Racial segregation began in SA under the Dutch prior to 1795 and was continued once the British took over, and was introduced as an ideology under the White Afrikaans national party and was put on the law books in 1947...under an Afrikaaner government. your confusing/and the independent is confusing colonialism and Apartheid...similar but not the same thing... I could suggest is a similar vein, the Germans/Nazi's got the idea of concentration camps from the British during the Boer war... |
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Post by cmk on Feb 15, 2016 16:05:02 GMT 7
oh goodie this subject... Racial segregation began in SA under the Dutch prior to 1795 and was continued once the British took over, and was introduced as an ideology under the White Afrikaans national party and was put on the law books in 1947...under an Afrikaaner government. your confusing/and the independent is confusing colonialism and Apartheid...similar but not the same thing... Somebody knows about everything that anybody does. It was a clerk who started the Wikileaks thing by giving tons of info. I had a clerical function at General staff briefings for USARV in Vietnam for about a year. I knew more and why we did things than the better informed Generals in the Pentagon. Someone always knows. Can't keep a secret. If the US blew an airliner out of the sky hundreds of people would have been involved. Not all of them would have kept quiet. Take a plane to CM go to an internet cafe and blow the whistle. |
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Post by Soutpeel on Feb 15, 2016 16:11:54 GMT 7
oh goodie this subject... Racial segregation began in SA under the Dutch prior to 1795 and was continued once the British took over, and was introduced as an ideology under the White Afrikaans national party and was put on the law books in 1947...under an Afrikaaner government. your confusing/and the independent is confusing colonialism and Apartheid...similar but not the same thing... Somebody knows about everything that anybody does. It was a clerk who started the Wikileaks thing by giving tons of info. I had a clerical function at General staff briefings for USARV in Vietnam for about a year. I knew more and why we did things than the better informed Generals in the Pentagon. Someone always knows. Can't keep a secret. If the US blew an airliner out of the sky hundreds of people would have been involved. Not all of them would have kept quiet. Take a plane to CM go to an internet cafe and blow the whistle. and connection between the Vietnam war, Pentagon generals, John Rhodes, Churchill and Apartheid is how ?....your off on a tangent.....dear boy |
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Post by siampolee on Feb 15, 2016 16:16:43 GMT 7
And of cours the American example of racial equality over the years is spotless and a fine example to humankind even now is it not. That darn Rosa Parkes.' No more than a conspiracy merchant causing all that trouble about segregated buses etc.    |
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Post by cmk on Feb 15, 2016 16:30:57 GMT 7
And of cours the American example of racial equality over the years is spotless and a fine example to humankind even now is it not. That darn Rosa Parkes.' No more than a conspiracy merchant causing all that trouble about segregated buses etc. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Because Americans are racists does that make the British crimes more or less? It makes no difference. Unless the question was which society was the most racist and caused the most deaths of the countries it colonized. Is that the question? How many countries did America colonize? How many Britain? Or are we talking about indigenous population exploitation? How many Indians from the Americas did Britain, Spain, Portugal, France and American colonists kill? I guess it's my fault as I mentioned 4 people - 3 Americans and one half American who were not real good at planning ahead and because one of those that I mentioned was half British I started a bru ha ha. Sorry. Supreme court Justice Scalia was found with a pillow over his face. Did he smother himself? , Presidio County Judge Cinderela Guevara pronounced Scalia dead of natural causes without seeing the body — which is permissible under Texas law — and without ordering an autopsy. “Other than being with his family or in church, there’s no place he’d rather be than on a hunt,” said Houston lawyer Mark Lanier, who took Scalia hunting for wild boar, deer and even alligators. |
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Post by siampolee on Feb 15, 2016 16:52:47 GMT 7
Correct ,how Gallipoli comes into the thread I among others do not know.You seem to have something of a fetish concerning Galipoli and Churchill.
Your rabid anti British feelings are prominent in the greater majority of your posts as is your ego I must ask can you,will tell us just how room was made in the office at General staff office for USARV in Vietnam for both you and your ego?
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Post by cmk on Feb 15, 2016 16:58:46 GMT 7
Correct ,how Gallipoli comes into the thread I among others do not know.You seem to have something of a fetish concerning Galipoli and Churchill. Example of poor planning the same as I mentioned Pickett's charge. With such a lack of skill it is hard to see how such people could plan a complicated conspiracy. Now you know. In the military it is called the 7 P's. Proper planning and practice prevents p**s poor performance. |
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Post by Soutpeel on Feb 15, 2016 17:01:22 GMT 7
Correct ,how Gallipoli comes into the thread I among others do not know.You seem to have something of a fetish concerning Galipoli and Churchill. let just remind everyone the topic of this thread "Conspiracy Theories" I have no issue having historic debates...but lets do them in the appropriate forum shall we ? |
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Post by cmk on Feb 15, 2016 17:05:31 GMT 7
Correct ,how Gallipoli comes into the thread I among others do not know.You seem to have something of a fetish concerning Galipoli and Churchill. let just remind everyone the topic of this thread "Conspiracy Theories" I have no issue having historic debates...but lets do them in the appropriate forum shall we ? I think most conspiracies are conducted by the military and politicians so those people should be fair game as examples. Are the Israeli spies more able to conduct clandestine operations or is MI5? It's not the CIA as they are not real good lately. If you were going to pick an organization to cover up the Murder of a Supreme court justice who would you pick? Scalia's a conservative hunter gun nut. I'd go for Piers Morgan - looks like a fast man with a pillow and don't most Brits get absolutely Glaswegian violent when American guns are mentioned? But pillow murders don't seem to fit the mold. What group is known for pillow murdering? |
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Post by siampolee on Feb 15, 2016 17:14:03 GMT 7
You were there at the time you were made aware of all the information available at the time yet your superior knowlwdge gained from hindsight is the answer to the whole issue.
Why are you not a General as opposed to a pen pusher in the military. no doubt a purple heart for injuries sustained whilst sharpening your pencil while the real soldiers were out doing their job in appalling conditions as opposed to a scribe in a shiny office air conned office full of immaculate uniforms.
You really re a piece of work in fact I am starting to wonder whether you may be a combination of those two creatures <Fantasy boy> and fabricus.
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Post by me on Feb 15, 2016 17:15:45 GMT 7
oh goodie this subject... Racial segregation began in SA under the Dutch prior to 1795 and was continued once the British took over, and was introduced as an ideology under the White Afrikaans national party and was put on the law books in 1947...under an Afrikaaner government. your confusing/and the independent is confusing colonialism and Apartheid...similar but not the same thing... Somebody knows about everything that anybody does. It was a clerk who started the Wikileaks thing by giving tons of info. I had a clerical function at General staff briefings for USARV in Vietnam for about a year. I knew more and why we did things than the better informed Generals in the Pentagon. Someone always knows. Can't keep a secret. If the US blew an airliner out of the sky hundreds of people would have been involved. Not all of them would have kept quiet. Take a plane to CM go to an internet cafe and blow the whistle. Not a good place to do that cct and logs for all internet cafe's |
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