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Post by Mosha on May 12, 2016 12:15:13 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 14:17:58 GMT 7
These stories tear my heart out as we have a son going on three. I told my wife that when he starts school we will be taking him to school and picking him up, will not trust anyone with his life.
Cannot imagine how the kid's parents must be feeling.
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Post by AyG on May 12, 2016 15:33:36 GMT 7
when he starts school we will be taking him to school and picking him up, will not trust anyone with his life. Unfortunately, that's not enough to protect against such tragedies. School trips seem to be a regular cause of demise for young kids. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 12, 2016 21:02:13 GMT 7
In the land of,live for the moment, these events are not unheard of.
1. Driver, check list.
2. School, check list?
3. Just about every school bus I have seen has some girl who acts as a babysitter, where was she?
Sadly I dont see things changing in the near future, why do you think so many of these schools have the soccer moms cars parked outside in the morning and afternoon.
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Post by bowie on May 12, 2016 22:05:04 GMT 7
^^^
Agreed and a certain school would never allow this to happen.
Who said money does not talk.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 12, 2016 22:23:53 GMT 7
^^^ Agreed and a certain school would never allow this to happen. Who said money does not talk. School bus monitor, was the phrase I was looking for. I see these HiAce school buses every day, a nice little earner for some. 15 kids on board at 100 baht per kid per day, thats 1,500 baht per day. Funnily enough by pure chance and coincidence I was headed for the boat on Suk soi 15 about 4 this afternoon, could hardly walk, the spolit brats were being picked up in Merx and Beemers. |
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Post by buhi on May 12, 2016 22:32:18 GMT 7
^^^
Patana, Mission Control is in contact with every bus at all times.
And they earn big time, have clear restrictions on speed and safety.
Never knew of an accident caused by the driver and no child in my time was ever injured. Planning and regulations.
Earn big time, but follow the rules .
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Post by pathumseb on May 12, 2016 22:40:57 GMT 7
At my old place of work there was certainly room for an accident to happen. The drivers drove well but the lack of belts was mind boggling. Another issue was that the Thai teachers seemed afraid to lay the rules down on how to behave on a bus.Chaos on the roads, the driver had the patience of a saint.
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Post by bowie on May 12, 2016 23:01:25 GMT 7
^^^
Thai school standards, very different.
Belts compulsory, no leniency, international standards.Well, top international.
I drive my son to school and collect him.
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Post by pathumseb on May 12, 2016 23:11:17 GMT 7
I think the belt issue is a discipline one. Now, my old place of work did not come cheap if you wanted to send your kids there. What I did't get was why some parents would fork out millions of baht for a fancy Porche SUV but not buy a booster seat? I don't have kids, but if I did I would want them to be as safe as possible when on the road. Discipline is one of my very few pet peeves about working in Thailand. There seems to be the idea that discipline is shouting at the kids- something the Thai teachers would never do incase some Pooyai parent got upset. I think the idea that kids don't like rules is a little bit of a misconception. My first lesson always involves a getting to know you element before putting the kids in groups to make the rules that we are going to follow- we vote on the best ones and laugh at the silly ones before tossing them out.
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 12, 2016 23:16:05 GMT 7
At my old place of work there was certainly room for an accident to happen. The drivers drove well but the lack of belts was mind boggling. Another issue was that the Thai teachers seemed afraid to lay the rules down on how to behave on a bus.Chaos on the roads, the driver had the patience of a saint.  , who granted these drivers the right to drive these kids in the first place? Teachers, , some sort of sacred cow here, do you really think some loso cowboy driver isnt going to pay heed to what a teacher tells him? |
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 12, 2016 23:18:47 GMT 7
I think the belt issue is a discipline one. Now, my old place of work did not come cheap if you wanted to send your kids there. What I did't get was why some parents would fork out millions of baht for a fancy Porche SUV but not buy a booster seat? I don't have kids, but if I did I would want them to be as safe as possible when on the road. Discipline is one of my very few pet peeves about working in Thailand. There seems to be the idea that discipline is shouting at the kids- something the Thai teachers would never do incase some Pooyai parent got upset. I think the idea that kids don't like rules is a little bit of a misconception. My first lesson always involves a getting to know you element before putting the kids in groups to make the rules that we are going to follow- we vote on the best ones and laugh at the silly ones before tossing them out. Its Money That Matters, Image Face and Status. The Skool is all that matters. $$$$$$$$$$$$ |
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Post by pathumseb on May 12, 2016 23:21:04 GMT 7
At my old place of work there was certainly room for an accident to happen. The drivers drove well but the lack of belts was mind boggling. Another issue was that the Thai teachers seemed afraid to lay the rules down on how to behave on a bus.Chaos on the roads, the driver had the patience of a saint. , who granted these drivers the right to drive these kids in the first place? Teachers, , some sort of sacred cow here, do you really think some loso cowboy driver isnt going to pay heed to what a teacher tells him? Question 1: No idea, they all seemed to own their own van which begs questions about a vetting process. If I was a parent, I would certainly want some info on my kid's driver. Question 2: Erm, I don't think the 'teachers' would even ask. Enforcing rules might upset the parents and lead to complaints-mai pen rai wins again. Problem is this is when such an attitude can lead to tragedy. Our students being involved in a traffic accident was a fear that most of the expat staff shared. |
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Post by rgs2001uk on May 12, 2016 23:41:27 GMT 7
, who granted these drivers the right to drive these kids in the first place? Teachers, , some sort of sacred cow here, do you really think some loso cowboy driver isnt going to pay heed to what a teacher tells him? Question 1: No idea, they all seemed to own their own van which begs questions about a vetting process. If I was a parent, I would certainly want some info on my kid's driver. Question 2: Erm, I don't think the 'teachers' would even ask. Enforcing rules might upset the parents and lead to complaints-mai pen rai wins again. Problem is this is when such an attitude can lead to tragedy. Our students being involved in a traffic accident was a fear that most of the expat staff shared. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round. We are back to what buhi mentioned before, you get what you pay for. Dont take this as a knock, its just the way things are here. |
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Post by smokie36 on May 13, 2016 1:08:14 GMT 7
I was in Bangkok Patana once...the school cafeteria menu should be included in Bangkok restaurant guides!  |
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, who granted these drivers the right to drive these kids in the first place?
