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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 13:17:45 GMT 7
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 14:23:38 GMT 7
The Campbell betrayal was on a different level. Scandalous. Absolutely! Massacre some fellow clansmen no problem, but tricking the English to help, now that's immoral  You have your oar in the wrong water, Rubl  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 15:05:59 GMT 7
No let him continue ........
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Post by rubl on Dec 6, 2016 18:53:45 GMT 7
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Post by buhi on Dec 6, 2016 21:26:30 GMT 7
Absolutely! Massacre some fellow clansmen no problem, but tricking the English to help, now that's immoral You have your oar in the wrong water, Rubl Am I a friend or foe? My Scottish family are Wishart, Gillespie . But old feuds are not my territory. As a romantic, in more ways than one, my three sons all have a family middle name, first is Haxton, from his Scottish mother, second Gillespie, from my mother, third I will keep secret, but it is his mother's Thai family name and the one he uses. I hope there are no Thai feuds from hundreds of years ago that I do not know about. |
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Post by bowie on Dec 6, 2016 21:52:34 GMT 7
Best thing from Scotland:
Buhi, how Scots pronounce Bowie, or so he said.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 23:22:37 GMT 7
You have your oar in the wrong water, Rubl Am I a friend or foe? My Scottish family are Wishart, Gillespie . But old feuds are not my territory. As a romantic, in more ways than one, my three sons all have a family middle name, first is Haxton, from his Scottish mother, second Gillespie, from my mother, third I will keep secret, but it is his mother's Thai family name and the one he uses. I hope there are no Thai feuds from hundreds of years ago that I do not know about. It would have been bad enough of the Campbell's to have merely slaughtered the McDonald's. Women and children alike. The breach of the code of highland hospitality - to have taken shelter in McDonald homes, to have been fed and watered, and bedded down - And to rise from their beds to slaughter their hosts - Sickening and appalling. And yes, Rubl - I and many Scots consider that to be a worse act of betrayal than that of Wallace. And I had high profile ancestors that fought with Wallace - who I'm pretty sure would agree what happened to the McDonald's was worse. It was nearly as bad as the actions of the Dutch Nazi collaborators. Just nearly - cos what they did was an embarrassment to the entire human race. |
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Post by rubl on Dec 7, 2016 0:11:58 GMT 7
Which reminds me of another best thing out of Scotland, long memories and grudges |
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Post by buhi on Dec 7, 2016 0:13:50 GMT 7
A family name?
This is feudal, it has no place today. Tribal grudges.
Can rake up any, any where.
Get over it.
Learn the history, yes, but be impartial.
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Post by rubl on Dec 7, 2016 0:20:55 GMT 7
Am I a friend or foe? My Scottish family are Wishart, Gillespie . But old feuds are not my territory. As a romantic, in more ways than one, my three sons all have a family middle name, first is Haxton, from his Scottish mother, second Gillespie, from my mother, third I will keep secret, but it is his mother's Thai family name and the one he uses. I hope there are no Thai feuds from hundreds of years ago that I do not know about. It would have been bad enough of the Campbell's to have merely slaughtered the McDonald's. Women and children alike. The breach of the code of highland hospitality - to have taken shelter in McDonald homes, to have been fed and watered, and bedded down - And to rise from their beds to slaughter their hosts - Sickening and appalling. And yes, Rubl - I and many Scots consider that to be a worse act of betrayal than that of Wallace. And I had high profile ancestors that fought with Wallace - who I'm pretty sure would agree what happened to the McDonald's was worse. It was nearly as bad as the actions of the Dutch Nazi collaborators. Just nearly - cos what they did was an embarrassment to the entire human race. just nearly, of course. As all know no 'real' Scot would collaborate with English. "On 3 August 1305 Wallace was captured in Robroyston, north of Glasgow. He was taken by Sir John Menteith, the uncle of Sir John Stewart who had fallen at the Battle of Falkirk. Menteith had been made sheriff of Dumbarton by Edward. From Dumbarton Castle the captive Wallace was taken south to Carlisle then paraded, bound hand and foot, to London." Next we'll put things in historical perspective which tends to explain why such things could happen in times when ideas, concept differed a bit from what we now accept as 'normal'. |
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Post by buhi on Dec 7, 2016 0:34:09 GMT 7
Rubl and Bleth, it is a futile argument.
I gave my Scottish ancestry, have researched it out of interest. All strongly protestant. Am I?
Did I inherit that?
Or did I inherit more than that?
I hope so.
It is interesting agreed, but is not of more than passing interest to me.
I may be the ancestor of a despicable child murderer, so what. That is not me. I do not believe in the old testament , of the sins of the fathers.
History is interesting and lessons can be learnt, but they are to contemplate not to perpetuate.
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Post by buhi on Dec 7, 2016 1:13:15 GMT 7
Rubl and Bleth, it is a futile argument. I gave my Scottish ancestry, have researched it out of interest. All strongly protestant. Am I? Did I inherit that? Or did I inherit more than that? I hope so. It is interesting agreed, but is not of more than passing interest to me. I may be the ancestor of a despicable child murderer, so what. That is not me. I do not believe in the old testament , of the sins of the fathers. History is interesting and lessons can be learnt, but they are to contemplate not to perpetuate. I may be the descendant of an ancestor who was ------ Correcting the: I may be the ancestor of a despicable child murderer, |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 7, 2016 1:37:07 GMT 7
Its a shame apples don't grow so well in Scotland...the larger the tree one would think....?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 3:25:57 GMT 7
It would have been bad enough of the Campbell's to have merely slaughtered the McDonald's. Women and children alike. The breach of the code of highland hospitality - to have taken shelter in McDonald homes, to have been fed and watered, and bedded down - And to rise from their beds to slaughter their hosts - Sickening and appalling. And yes, Rubl - I and many Scots consider that to be a worse act of betrayal than that of Wallace. And I had high profile ancestors that fought with Wallace - who I'm pretty sure would agree what happened to the McDonald's was worse. It was nearly as bad as the actions of the Dutch Nazi collaborators. Just nearly - cos what they did was an embarrassment to the entire human race. just nearly, of course. As all know no 'real' Scot would collaborate with English. "On 3 August 1305 Wallace was captured in Robroyston, north of Glasgow. He was taken by Sir John Menteith, the uncle of Sir John Stewart who had fallen at the Battle of Falkirk. Menteith had been made sheriff of Dumbarton by Edward. From Dumbarton Castle the captive Wallace was taken south to Carlisle then paraded, bound hand and foot, to London." Next we'll put things in historical perspective which tends to explain why such things could happen in times when ideas, concept differed a bit from what we now accept as 'normal'. We are quite aware of our tendency to stabbed each other in the back. A feeling that Ann Frank is familiar with. Just sayin' |
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Post by rubl on Dec 7, 2016 12:04:04 GMT 7
Its a shame apples don't grow so well in Scotland...the larger the tree one would think....? Look on the bright side young lad. You can relax under one without needing to fear some will fall on your head |
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