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Post by chiangmai on Mar 25, 2019 18:48:16 GMT 7
^^^ They berate Hindus for drinking cow urine, but seem to forget that Mohammed was a great fan of drinking camel urine. And it gets more icky. "consumption of fresh, warm camel feces has been recommended by Bedouins as a remedy for bacterial dysentery". Oh, those wacky Moslems! Lewin, Ralph A. (2001) Perspectives in Biology and Medicine. 44 (4): 594–607. Just so you understand something from all of this, a fecal transplant is increasingly accepted as being the cure for many gastrointestinal disorders following the use of antibiotics: www.hopkinsmedicine.org/gastroenterology_hepatology/clinical_services/advanced_endoscopy/fecal_transplantation.htmlwww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190121103408.htmThere's nothing subtle or disguised about your prejudice is there AyG, at every crook and turn you appear overjoyed to emphasize any negative aspect of the Muslim religion, regardless of whether it has merit or not, is true or not, is appropriate or not. Your crusade on these pages is something you know would not be allowed in your home country or in many others in the West, stating facts in context and in a balanced manner is one thing, your diatribe here however is something else entirely and I for one find it offensive. |
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Post by AyG on Mar 25, 2019 19:35:17 GMT 7
And it gets more icky. "consumption of fresh, warm camel feces has been recommended by Bedouins as a remedy for bacterial dysentery". Oh, those wacky Moslems! Lewin, Ralph A. (2001) Perspectives in Biology and Medicine. 44 (4): 594–607. Just so you understand something from all of this, a fecal transplant is increasingly accepted as being the cure for many gastrointestinal disorders following the use of antibiotics: www.hopkinsmedicine.org/gastroenterology_hepatology/clinical_services/advanced_endoscopy/fecal_transplantation.htmlwww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190121103408.htmThere's nothing subtle or disguised about your prejudice is there AyG, at every crook and turn you appear overjoyed to emphasize any negative aspect of the Muslim religion, regardless of whether it has merit or not, is true or not, is appropriate or not. Your crusade on these pages is something you know would not be allowed in your home country or in many others in the West, stating facts in context and in a balanced manner is one thing, your diatribe here however is something else entirely and I for one find it offensive. Thank you for your little diatribe. However, you clearly have utterly failed to understand my point. Moslems criticise Hindus for drinking cow urine whilst themselves drinking camel urine and eating camel faeces. This surely is the height of hypocrisy. Do you honestly think the Moslems criticising Hindus considered the medical benefits (or otherwise) of drinking cow urine? No. They were simply expressing their hatred of non-Moslems. |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 25, 2019 20:02:24 GMT 7
Just so you understand something from all of this, a fecal transplant is increasingly accepted as being the cure for many gastrointestinal disorders following the use of antibiotics: www.hopkinsmedicine.org/gastroenterology_hepatology/clinical_services/advanced_endoscopy/fecal_transplantation.htmlwww.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190121103408.htmThere's nothing subtle or disguised about your prejudice is there AyG, at every crook and turn you appear overjoyed to emphasize any negative aspect of the Muslim religion, regardless of whether it has merit or not, is true or not, is appropriate or not. Your crusade on these pages is something you know would not be allowed in your home country or in many others in the West, stating facts in context and in a balanced manner is one thing, your diatribe here however is something else entirely and I for one find it offensive. Thank you for your little diatribe. However, you clearly have utterly failed to understand my point. Moslems criticise Hindus for drinking cow urine whilst themselves drinking camel urine and eating camel faeces. This surely is the height of hypocrisy. Do you honestly think the Moslems criticising Hindus considered the medical benefits (or otherwise) of drinking cow urine? No. They were simply expressing their hatred of non-Moslems. The, "missed the point" line doesn't wash with me I'm afraid, you're preaching religious hatred and trying to disguise it as academia, end of. |
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Post by AyG on Mar 25, 2019 20:35:38 GMT 7
The, "missed the point" line doesn't wash with me I'm afraid, you're preaching religious hatred and trying to disguise it as academia, end of. What's wrong with having an utter disdain for religion? There is no invisible sky wizard. People who believe in one are either deluded or severely misinformed. What you call "religious hatred" is simply stating facts. Indeed, I'd challenge you to provide a single statement I've made on the subject of Islam here (apart from my recent slip up with the ordering of the chapters of the Koran, which I promptly corrected) which is factually incorrect. |
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Post by rubl on Mar 25, 2019 21:02:22 GMT 7
The, "missed the point" line doesn't wash with me I'm afraid, you're preaching religious hatred and trying to disguise it as academia, end of. What's wrong with having an utter disdain for religion? There is no invisible sky wizard. People who believe in one are either deluded or severely misinformed. What you call "religious hatred" is simply stating facts. Indeed, I'd challenge you to provide a single statement I've made on the subject of Islam here (apart from my recent slip up with the ordering of the chapters of the Koran, which I promptly corrected) which is factually incorrect. Well, your use of 'muslims do this or said that' is very suggestive and just as factual as saying 'Brits want to brexit'. It's like saying 'obviously as all know'., mostly what follows is not factual nor obvious or what all know', more like what some think and want others to think as well. My 2-1/2 cents. |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 26, 2019 2:47:57 GMT 7
The, "missed the point" line doesn't wash with me I'm afraid, you're preaching religious hatred and trying to disguise it as academia, end of. What's wrong with having an utter disdain for religion? There is no invisible sky wizard. People who believe in one are either deluded or severely misinformed. What you call "religious hatred" is simply stating facts. Indeed, I'd challenge you to provide a single statement I've made on the subject of Islam here (apart from my recent slip up with the ordering of the chapters of the Koran, which I promptly corrected) which is factually incorrect. Continually criticizing every aspect you can of the Muslim religion is not the same as having disdain for religion in general. You don't state that you have disdain for all religion, you only ever tell us all the negative aspects of the Muslim religion, to the extent that you are preaching religious hate and I'd like to see you stop. Reciting, in isolation, negative verses from the Koran and focussing on the 2% extremist element achieves nothing constructive and does not represent any part of a balanced argument about religion, once or twice is OK, half a dozen times gets old, a dozen or more says it's something else entirely. |
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Post by siampolee on Mar 26, 2019 13:30:02 GMT 7
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Post by 88 on Mar 26, 2019 13:53:30 GMT 7
I think he has been very restrained considering. What negative aspect? Surely you joke. Don't forget they actually want to kill all non believers, unless they pay some special tax to the believers. Choudary called this "jihadi seekers" allowance in a rare moment of islamic comedy. The whole death to apostates thingy is also a bit worrying, suggesting an end to the religious freedoms we westerners tend to take for granted. Plus the slicing up of your daughers genetalia gives some conservative folk pause for thought, is it cool to do that to my 3 year old daughter!?! Pluuuus banning Christmas, Easter, pork, women showing their bodies in public in the skimpy clothing we all enjoy looking at in the summer. And the segregating of the sexes and treating women like cattle. Well yes he was very restrained in his condemnation of these barbarians. And then there is the purposeful lying of islams aims (taqqiya?) to fool the less inteligent kaffirs like yourself into making threats to the enlightened westerners to support your right to be threatened. You couldn't make this silliness up. Ban Islam, and be done with it. It works brilliantly in the middle east, just leave it there and let them do what the hell they want to each other. But in Europe? no bloody way. Concerning westerners views on islam there are 2 groups. Those that detest it, and those that do not understand it. If you run along to bestgore there is yet another muslim beheading video just uploaded in the last couple of days of an elderly westerner with grey hair. I wish he could tell you the reality of islam but alas he lost his head - slowly and agonizingly. Go on, educate yourself instead of making silly threats. |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 26, 2019 14:49:02 GMT 7
I think he has been very restrained considering. What negative aspect? Surely you joke. Don't forget they actually want to kill all non believers, unless they pay some special tax to the believers. Choudary called this "jihadi seekers" allowance in a rare moment of islamic comedy. The whole death to apostates thingy is also a bit worrying, suggesting an end to the religious freedoms we westerners tend to take for granted. Plus the slicing up of your daughers genetalia gives some conservative folk pause for thought, is it cool to do that to my 3 year old daughter!?! Pluuuus banning Christmas, Easter, pork, women showing their bodies in public in the skimpy clothing we all enjoy looking at in the summer. And the segregating of the sexes and treating women like cattle. Well yes he was very restrained in his condemnation of these barbarians. And then there is the purposeful lying of islams aims (taqqiya?) to fool the less inteligent kaffirs like yourself into making threats to the enlightened westerners to support your right to be threatened. You couldn't make this silliness up. Ban Islam, and be done with it. It works brilliantly in the middle east, just leave it there and let them do what the hell they want to each other. But in Europe? no bloody way. Concerning westerners views on islam there are 2 groups. Those that detest it, and those that do not understand it. If you run along to bestgore there is yet another muslim beheading video just uploaded in the last couple of days of an elderly westerner with grey hair. I wish he could tell you the reality of islam but alas he lost his head - slowly and agonizingly. Go on, educate yourself instead of making silly threats. Help me understand in that case: when you say "they" want to kill all non-believers, are you referring to the 2% or the 2% AND the 98%! BTW there's at least 3 groups, you missed off by far the larger group, the one that tolerates it. |
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Post by 88 on Mar 26, 2019 15:17:01 GMT 7
Help me understand in that case: when you say "they" want to kill all non-believers, are you referring to the 2% or the 2% AND the 98%! BTW there's at least 3 groups, you missed off by far the larger group, the one that tolerates it. The mathematics is confusing 2% + 2% + 98% = 102% If I read you correctly you refer to the "moderate" 98% that would be holding you down while the "extremist" 2% chops off your head. So there is no confusion, if Christians revert back 2,000 years and go on aggressive murder spree abroad in the name of God I would say to ban them too. But alas the bible is not Gods verbatim word and Jesus(peace be upon him) is not the perfect human and I can draw a cartoon of Jesus taking a dump or whatever, no biggie. The fact that everywhere in the world muslims have settled you have chaos and violence should be enough to kick off an honest debate about whether we really need this in our countries. That in modern Britain offering reasonable critique of islam is a far worse crime than the drugging, kidnapping and gang raping of up to a million young sheik and white kids by muslim gangs is most concerning. |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 26, 2019 15:57:26 GMT 7
Help me understand in that case: when you say "they" want to kill all non-believers, are you referring to the 2% or the 2% AND the 98%! BTW there's at least 3 groups, you missed off by far the larger group, the one that tolerates it. The mathematics is confusing 2% + 2% + 98% = 102% If I read you correctly you refer to the "moderate" 98% that would be holding you down while the "extremist" 2% chops off your head. So there is no confusion, if Christians revert back 2,000 years and go on aggressive murder spree abroad in the name of God I would say to ban them too. But alas the bible is not Gods verbatim word and Jesus(peace be upon him) is not the perfect human and I can draw a cartoon of Jesus taking a dump or whatever, no biggie. The fact that everywhere in the world muslims have settled you have chaos and violence should be enough to kick off an honest debate about whether we really need this in our countries. That in modern Britain offering reasonable critique of islam is a far worse crime than the drugging, kidnapping and gang raping of up to a million young sheik and white kids by muslim gangs is most concerning. Read it again slowly......2% (extremists) OR, 98% + 2% (all Muslims). And no you don't read me correctly, again! The 2% is the extremist element, bad people for sure, I'm happy they all get wasted, if that's what it takes. But the other 98% who are not extremist, that vast majority who simply want to practice their religion of choice and coexist in a peaceful manner, let's leave them alone rather than sweep them up with that 2% and tar every one with the same brush, surely we're smarter than that! And this part's interesting, "if Christians revert back 2,000 years and go on aggressive murder spree abroad in the name of God....", sort of like the crusades then? But fair enough, that was 1,000 years ago and this is now, the trouble is, in the past 50 years or so we have hardly been welcoming and understanding of the Muslim religion, have we. I mean, we constantly invade Muslim countries, I read that America has fought with 14 of them during that period, often overthrowing the incumbent government and leaving the country in a worse condition than when they found it, was 9/11 really that much of a surprise! The rationale is circular, the US thinks it must remain in the ME to contain Muslim terrorists and the more the US does that the more they are resented and the greater the Muslim terrorist threat becomes....echoes of the spread of communism prior to the Vietnam conflict I believe. |
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Post by rott on Mar 26, 2019 16:55:05 GMT 7
The Christmas/New Year/Festive Season get together this year could be interesting and inspiring. If invited I will definitely attend.
But I do not want any involvement in the seating arrangements.
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Post by rubl on Mar 26, 2019 17:00:41 GMT 7
The Christmas/New Year/Festive Season get together this year could be interesting and inspiring. If invited I will definitely attend. But I do not want any involvement in the seating arrangements. that's why we invented the 'round' table  |
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Post by chiangmai on Mar 26, 2019 17:03:15 GMT 7
The Christmas/New Year/Festive Season get together this year could be interesting and inspiring. If invited I will definitely attend. But I do not want any involvement in the seating arrangements. I shall wear a burka and make lots of new friends.  |
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Post by rubl on Mar 26, 2019 17:04:58 GMT 7
The Christmas/New Year/Festive Season get together this year could be interesting and inspiring. If invited I will definitely attend. But I do not want any involvement in the seating arrangements. I shall wear a burka and make lots of new friends. As catholic orangeman I'll wear an orange shirt with a picture of the pope on the back  |
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