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Post by rgs2001uk on Dec 3, 2015 23:04:56 GMT 7
My mrs went crazy after the lad came back from school with a load of red marks.
She and I had checked the homework prior to it being summitted, teacher had red marked it.
Into the office, jotter thrown on the desk, please explain, the Thai couldnt (but never mind) teacher called to explain, whats wrong with this spelling, colour?
No offence to the teacher she though it was color.
Nothing to do with Engerlish or American spelling.
Coupled with the fact, there is no way my kids will be handicapped with that effin awful Pinoy accent.
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Post by rubl on Dec 3, 2015 23:20:33 GMT 7
Philippine domestic workers in Thailand require a workpermit I would assume. As such their employers have to pay some 'real' money to get their maid. The maid would probably also have a somewhat higher education than the local variety, English being part of the attraction for foreign expats hiring a Philippine in Thailand or even having one 'sent over'. BTW just curious, how many is 'a lot' and how does that compare to the total number of Philippine maids and/or other professions? While you say the topic is on Philippine maids you still go with your negative waves on other nationalities and groups. PS like or not like doesn't have anything to do with the truth, maybe only with the willingness to accept it. PPS a very recent study www.ari.nus.edu.sg/wps/wps15_240.pdfPPPS the latest figures I found (from 2010) show 75 Philippine persons registered as working in Thailand (47m, 28f). Of course the figures of the Philippine Ministry of Labor and Employment may be a wee bit off. For HK in 2010 they list 528 male and 28,237 female workers, almost all of them falling under "domestic helpers and related household workers" www.poea.gov.ph/stats/statistics.htmlThe Philippine community in Thailand is tight knit and held together by family and religion. All the Philippine people I know have degrees including the maids. They function as nanny's and tutors and other professions such as engineers and IT. If any of the ladies was abused the whole community would help in a minute as would I. What are you trying to say? Your studies point out no abuse to Philippine people in Thailand. I read until the lady said marriage was not an option for Philippine people in Thailand for a visa. (I think that's what I read) and she of course is in error so her veracity so lowered I stopped reading. I think you are trying imply that abuse of Philippine people in Thailand is commonplace and that would be a lie. In the future if you want to link long studies you might want to explain why your are linking them as opposed to just trying to flood your post with useless information. You have presented no information which supports your fantasy view that Philippine people are abused in Thailand. PS you brought up the hill tribe people. It is an interesting subject. They are on the wrong side of history. Kind of like American Indians who fought with the French and then the British and always got the short end of the stick till oil and then later casinos were discovered. I helped as many hill tribe people as I could with jobs when I lived in the States. "I think you are trying imply that abuse of Philippine people in Thailand is commonplace and that would be a lie" I do not try to imply abuse to Philippine people in Thailand. That would indeed be a lie. What follows based on what you thing is therefor incorrect. I do try to imply that the Philippine people legally working in Thailand cannot easily be compared with other groups of people working in Thailand. There is also a real difference with how 'domestic help' is being 'used' and 'treated' in various countries. Maybe it's not (too) bad for Philippines in HK or Thailand, but it is some of the Arabian countries. Your comment in #10 "It's not like the Philippine people don't know how to use facebook to tell people back home what's happening. If you don't like the work don't go. " is both naive and condescending. |
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Post by cmk on Dec 4, 2015 6:22:33 GMT 7
The Philippine community in Thailand is tight knit and held together by family and religion. All the Philippine people I know have degrees including the maids. They function as nanny's and tutors and other professions such as engineers and IT. If any of the ladies was abused the whole community would help in a minute as would I. What are you trying to say? Your studies point out no abuse to Philippine people in Thailand. I read until the lady said marriage was not an option for Philippine people in Thailand for a visa. (I think that's what I read) and she of course is in error so her veracity so lowered I stopped reading. I think you are trying imply that abuse of Philippine people in Thailand is commonplace and that would be a lie. In the future if you want to link long studies you might want to explain why your are linking them as opposed to just trying to flood your post with useless information. You have presented no information which supports your fantasy view that Philippine people are abused in Thailand. PS you brought up the hill tribe people. It is an interesting subject. They are on the wrong side of history. Kind of like American Indians who fought with the French and then the British and always got the short end of the stick till oil and then later casinos were discovered. I helped as many hill tribe people as I could with jobs when I lived in the States. "I think you are trying imply that abuse of Philippine people in Thailand is commonplace and that would be a lie" I do not try to imply abuse to Philippine people in Thailand. That would indeed be a lie. What follows based on what you thing is therefor incorrect. I do try to imply that the Philippine people legally working in Thailand cannot easily be compared with other groups of people working in Thailand. There is also a real difference with how 'domestic help' is being 'used' and 'treated' in various countries. Maybe it's not (too) bad for Philippines in HK or Thailand, but it is some of the Arabian countries. Your comment in #10 "It's not like the Philippine people don't know how to use facebook to tell people back home what's happening. If you don't like the work don't go. " is both naive and condescending. Me naive and condescending? Oh pshaw. I've many facebook friends from the Philippines. A Philippine married couple that I know just had a baby at a Thai government hospital 100% free. Perhaps if you knew some people from Thailand or the Philippines you might be in a better position to comment instead of posting obscure inaccurate academic papers. |
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Post by cmk on Dec 4, 2015 6:29:34 GMT 7
My mrs went crazy after the lad came back from school with a load of red marks. She and I had checked the homework prior to it being summitted, teacher had red marked it. Into the office, jotter thrown on the desk, please explain, the Thai couldnt (but never mind) teacher called to explain, whats wrong with this spelling, colour? No offence to the teacher she though it was color. Nothing to do with Engerlish or American spelling. Coupled with the fact, there is no way my kids will be handicapped with that effin awful Pinoy accent. Your kids will have your accent unless you don't live with them. Sorry but I don't know what a jotter is. I assume your kids go to Regents - I'm surprised about the spelling. |
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Post by cmk on Dec 4, 2015 8:08:21 GMT 7
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Post by pathumseb on Dec 4, 2015 13:24:40 GMT 7
I work alongside many Filipino teachers and have done so for years. They're great colleagues and some are good friends outside of school. For the most part they are also very dedicated to their work and always put the kids first. Which is more than can be said from the small army of backpackers that descend on the khlong for a year then up and leave often with very little notice. I slightly disagree about the accent being a handicap as it is not beyond the realms of possibility with ASEAN opening up that Thais will increasingly have to interact with Filipinos on a business level, so having an ear for the accent could be quite helpful.
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Post by onionluke on Dec 4, 2015 15:12:42 GMT 7
I hope the Thais don't pick up the PI aceent . It sounds like Kermit the frog singing Unchained Melody into Karaoke machine.
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Post by cmk on Dec 4, 2015 15:36:12 GMT 7
I hope the Thais don't pick up the PI aceent . It sounds like Kermit the frog singing Unchained Melody into Karaoke machine. Anything would be better than Glaswegian. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:45:56 GMT 7
I hope the Thais don't pick up the PI aceent . It sounds like Kermit the frog singing Unchained Melody into Karaoke machine. Anything would be better than Glaswegian. When Trainspotting was released in the States they had to re-record and soften the first 20 minutes of dialogue so that the American audiences could atune their ears to the Scottish accent. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 4, 2015 15:50:05 GMT 7
My mrs went crazy after the lad came back from school with a load of red marks. She and I had checked the homework prior to it being summitted, teacher had red marked it. Into the office, jotter thrown on the desk, please explain, the Thai couldnt (but never mind) teacher called to explain, whats wrong with this spelling, colour? No offence to the teacher she though it was color. Nothing to do with Engerlish or American spelling. Coupled with the fact, there is no way my kids will be handicapped with that effin awful Pinoy accent. I will be more than happy to teach them colloquial Scottish free of charge. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 4, 2015 15:51:40 GMT 7
Anything would be better than Glaswegian. When Trainspotting was released in the States they had to re-record and soften the first 20 minutes of dialogue so that the American audiences could atune their ears to the Scottish accent. The accent and indeed the book were written in my local tongue....even theblether had to have an interpreter. Allegedly. I understand he knows a lawyer the bastid. Allegedly of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 15:55:39 GMT 7
I hope the Thais don't pick up the PI aceent . It sounds like Kermit the frog singing Unchained Melody into Karaoke machine. Anything would be better than Glaswegian. Glasgwegian is far from the least intelligible accent in the English speaking world. Far. |
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Post by smokie36 on Dec 4, 2015 16:07:06 GMT 7
Anything would be better than Glaswegian. Glasgwegian is far from the least intelligible accent in the English speaking world. Far. Pardon? |
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Post by cmk on Dec 4, 2015 16:18:52 GMT 7
Glasgwegian is far from the least intelligible accent in the English speaking world. Far. Pardon? No pardon necessary. Onion luke was mocking a Philippine accent and I believe he speaks with a Glaswegian accent. I was pointing out the kettle black syndrome. |
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